Civil War II spoilers

She dies.

You'll have to take my word for it, no scans today.

She's in critical care at the hospital and flatlines, speaking her last words to Carol.

Don't worry, I'm believing you.

Figured they might change it because of the leak (not you, but the one that laid out everything months ago). Oh well.

If this happens, this is honestly my final straw with Marvel.

I'm kinda bummed about it.
She was stuck in "grrl powah" ghetto for god knows how long, hell tumblrinas don't even give a shit about her yet they keep trying to push her there.

Yet I've enjoyed all of her solo stories and wanted more, now I'll have to wait until Bendis unfuckery begins in about 3 years from now to see her back.

So tit missile was legit? Wow thats some shlock

R I P in pieces. Does anything else of note happen?

You're stronger than most
>Whor
>Peter Stark
>MJ working for Stark
>Preggo Jess
>Space Knight Venom and the symbiote origin

I assure you, I am pretty much at breaking point.

It goes with the leaks from months ago and I can believe Bendis and Marvel didn't care enough to change it

>Scanbro
Well, normally I would call BS.....

More of a summary:

There is an Inhuman that can see the future. Meets with the Avengers etc., gets told by Carol to contact the Ultimates if anything goes wrong. The Inhuman has a vision, the Ultimates go to attack Thanos (the FCBD issue). Tony is upset that Carol got Rhodey killed for "no good reason". She-Hulk is in critical care and they don't know how to treat her, and are awaiting the gamma specialist Dr. Banner. She-Hulk's dying words are to Carol about being strong or some nonsense. The machine that goes ping stops going ping and flatlines, with Carol getting increasingly more distressed. The last page is this, with it having flatlined for a too-long period.

If someone wants to post the leak I can see if it seems familiar.

I'm hiding from Rich ssh. ;)

I don't believe it. At a time when both of the Big Two are scrambling to bring in more female and minority readers, you're telling me Marvel's going to kill off one of the biggest assets they have to do that?

Are you guys ready for a she-black sassy woman taking her place because diversity?

Don't worry, I don't consider anything written by Bendis as a canon.

So whats your most hated thing about current Marvel? here are few to mention. When are we going to erase half this crap and start fresh?

So Bendis hates Jack of Hearts, Scott Lang, Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Wasp, Wonder Man, Hank Pym, She Hulk, Tigra, Captain Britain, Spectrum War Machine, Colossus, Jubilee, Gambit, Warpath, Magma, Multiple Man and any character written by PAD.

marvel also thrives on anger, so of couse they'll kill off Jen, especially since Carol would have less competition.

>kill the nigga
>so the rich white male and female can angst over it

My brother and I left at The Dark Elf run of Aaron's, came back for the next arc, and left entirely at Whor. It is unreadable fucking garbage. How fucking dare they ruin such a great run.
The last time I was this miffed was when they brought Thor back after Ragnarok. It was the perfect finale for him.

What was your breaking points, anons?

It's naturally really. They are doing the same "piss them off to increase sales" on the newbies.

All the obvious left-wing pandering stuff. Like Mockingbird #3 with the tampon stuff and erasing all the female superheroes that existed before her. Hellcat's deaging and horrid art last week. Squirrel Girl's horrible art. That mess with Angela and the "unsolicited opinions".

Don't worry, it'll all turn out to be an extended vision of Homer and be undone in the final issue, Bendis is going for three in a row on that plot device

I kind of feel bad for Kelly Thompson... Writing an all-female book, getting the character dynamics established and along comes Bendis to kill off one of its members and practically villify another for the sake of his shitty movie buzz siphoning event...

you forgot Moonstone

it really is disgusting

It's also believable because Marvel can be pants on heads retarded sometimes.

For the most recent example, see Hydra Cap.

They don't care about making their readers happy any more. They just want to piss their readers off it seems so they can get talked about for a week.

DC's problem is that they keep running around in circles.

S-she can still be in a coma, right?

God, X-Men are awesome in your head.

I'm hoping that due to her gamma radiation she can flatline longer than a normal human and will still recover somehow. I just reported how the comic ends. She-Hulk is my all-time favorite character.

>For the most recent example, see Hydra Cap.
Why don''t you wait for the arc to be over before judge it? People said the same thing about Superior Spider-man but look at those retards now.

I'm pretty sure you aren't flatlined while in a coma

They have ZERO awareness

>Rhodey dies.
>Jen dies.
>Marvel as a company dies.
Woah.
What the fuck.

For fuck sake just die already Carol, I'm sick of you.

Obligatory Whor reminder that just because a writer points out the stupid change it doesnt magically justify it

I don't care for mutants and Inhumans. Those books honestly never interested me.

>good little goy buy all our books before you dislike it

>You guys have absolutely no reason to believe me, but I’ve read the script for the first issue of this. Here’s what happens (hint, it’s pretty bad)!

>The guy who can see everything in the future? He’s an Inhuman named Homer. I shit you not. No code name, no Inhuman moniker, just Homer.

>Homer helps the heroes beat some big bad and Captain Marvel takes the opportunity to start using Homer to solve future crimes.

>OFF PANEL, both War Machine and She Hulk die fighting Thanos as Carol learned he was landing on Earth to try to get the Cosmic Cube again thanks to Homer.

>Tony swears revenge on Carol for getting Rhodey killed, while Jennifer lies dying on a table, her last words urging Danvers to keep using Homer to look into the future, even though she’s, you know, dying.

>Again, no reason to believe me but there you have it. Wait and see.

>Again, no reason for you to believe me on this, but heres some other tidbits:

– Stark throws a big party for all the heroes when they beat the first big monster, and the party sees Damien Hellstrom hitting on Wanda. Jessica Drew is watching this, talking with other heroes and says something to the effect of “Come on Wanda, just say it. No more Hellstroms!”

>– Speaking of Jessica Drew, she’s had her kid at this point but they don’t give any details on it. Bendis seems to have a tough time keeping straight who exactly is on which team.

>– Carol wants to look into the future because “the Ultimates trying to prevent future catastrophes is sort of our thing!”

>– Tony explains how him being a Futurist is exactly WHY he doesn’t want to use Homer as “everything has a natural order”. This is explained through typical Bendis fashion with Tony stopping mid-sentence to tell everyone to “listen”.

Does Avengers Arena still count as current? Because now I think about it I haven't bought a single Marvel comic since that came out.

I thought you were a Spider-Bro.

>So Bendis hates Jack of Hearts, Scott Lang, Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Wasp, Wonder Man, Hank Pym, She Hulk, Tigra,
Awesome Avengers lineup, desu.

>Still giving a fuck about Marvel Comics
She'll be back

Spider-Nigger

>buying

> Tony is upset that Carol got Rhodey killed for "no good reason".
WHAT THE FUCK. Stopping Thanos is "no good reason?" And yes, She-Hulk got killed in a ludicrous and stupid way.

I think this and the Death of X event will finally kill Marvel as a company.
Feels good man.

> still giving a fuck about the big 2
If you're going to shitpost at least put some effort into it.

Superior still had some fun potential going for it as there were a lot of ways for it to go. People were only pissed that they killed off Peter again again, but everything was still very much in character. And that ended up getting seemingly cut off early anyway because of trying to tie it into the movie it seemed.

Hydra Cap is bad because literally nobody can see the potential. It's either going to be a safe "ha ha we tricked you" twist on a twist, or it defeats the entire point and character of Captain America.

That summary lines up. I didn't catch the Jessica Drew things, but they're probably there in the "party" pages (more of a big meeting where they called everyone in I think).

I like Spider-Man. It just sorta became what Sup Forums demanded from me. So I gave Sup Forums what it wanted the most.

They went to stop something that the Inhuman saw happening in the future. Tony doesn't believe in that shit. So to Tony, it was them attacking Thanos on his home turf which was stupid.

>kill the nigga
>so the rich white male and female can angst over it
usually I'd agree with you, but this time the white woman was supposedly fucking the nigga, so it's understandable.

>implying quality has anything to do with a book's sales
It'll do fine and things will carry on as normal afterwards (possibly minus one Rhodey and She-Hulk for a bit till someone retcons this mess)

This seems so bad and it will still sell 500k+

You're insane if you think Civil War II won't kill Rebirth.

I want the gimmicks to stop. Every other month its some sort of shocking revelation or PR stunt to sell books. Theres no story, they write around this shit and figure it out as they go. Just vote with your wallet, and maybe the Mouse will end this shit

RIP the worst named, least original character until Dog Chow, the Korean Hulklet.

Holy shit that leaker from Neogaf in January really was right.

I seriously hope he leaks more of this comic early because this is already bad on the basis of She-Hulk dying from a missile to the chest.

I am telling you, after killing she-hulks marvel will kill storm, the is the second most popular female lead in pop culture, and all because marvel wants Carol to be THE female lead.

>So to Tony, it was them attacking Thanos on his home turf which was stupid.
they attacked Thanos when he appeared on Earth. how is that his home territory?

Hydra Cap is a mind-control story that got unexpected publicity. Nobody who's read comics at ALL should expect that to stick to the end of the arc. If it was a real "Cap goes evil!" book, it'd get the same promotion Superior Spider-Man/Iron Man did. Instead, it just picked up at the perfect time to drive all attention away from DC Rebirth, which Marvel was happy to help with.

I'll believe She-Hulk is dead when I see the actual comic, and even then, I won't expect it to stick. There's no way Marvel Studios hasn't been at least kicking around the idea of a She-Hulk appearance, if not a film. They won't trash that valuable a potential asset for long.

Why is Marvel so hell-bent on fucking themselves over this hard?
>Killing two of the most prominent and important non-white and non-male characters.
>Making Cap a fucking Nazi.
>Killing off the X-Men.
Why.
Just fucking why.
Marvel, god damn it.

I don't get why they aren't pushing Kamala instead.

They showed something about them being in space. I think. A bit fuzzy on the exact details there, sorry. I could be wrong.

Ultimátum was #1 in comics sales while was happening but that didnt stop it from being bad

blonde white women are more marketable

Anything about the Muggas in civil war 2 ?

damn, so the neogaf poster must be someone close to Bendis or Marvel to have gotten the script so early.

I was going to say the same thing but considering their editor literally said that controversy sells and the anger from fans is literally free promotion from them, I'm not too sure now.

PRESS F

>mfw this all right when this was leaked back in fucking January

But thank god they totally changed Homer's name to Ulysses.

RIP Chyna

Yeah between her and Robbie theyre the only good recent additions that also satisfy corporate diversity quotas.

>second most popular female lead in pop culture
What? Wonder Woman and Supergirl are vastly more popular than She-Hulk.

Did he just write this badly on purpose or is it just ineptitude?

They handed out a draft script at the first retreat. Marvel went around to a lot of writers asking who they let see the script after the leaks.

Mutants? No.

>Hydra Cap is a mind-control story that got unexpected publicity. Nobody who's read comics at ALL should expect that to stick to the end of the arc

remember, we're on Sup Forums
where storytimes get bumped off the catalog ever day due to constant autistic generals about kids cartoons

At this point I wouldn't put Storm over Black Widow. Maybe not even over Scarlet Witch.

how do you know this?

Because characters like invisible woman, she hulk and storm are strong independent woman that have gone trought shit but always manage to come back even better as person, Kamala is just a kid she still hasnt done anything in par with other marvel female leads

Second most popular for marvel at least, didnt mean to exclude WW, sorry

I choose to believe someone at that retreat realized how fucking dogshit this was.

Whats worse? The fact that a fucking missile is the thing that kills She Hulk, or the fact that it was done in a hilarious way from War Machine?

>they thought it was dogshit
>posted it online so others would laugh it
>yfw they were just seeing if they could bully marvel into writing a better event for the readers

Yeah, controversy sells, but you can't sell a character that's dead. And since event comics sell well in any case (which is why we have to suffer through so many of them...), it'd be extremely short-sighted of them to do.

That it's from a cherry tap.
The only reason it can kill her, is because the plot demanded it.
Hell, Bendis will justify that the rocket was "The Exwife" from Marvel's "Iron Man 2"

They were busy fellating their spiritual liege, BMB.

Who GIVES a fuck?
Audiences don't give a fuck, they just want an interesting character.

They would kill Storm not solely because they want Carol to be the lead but because Storm is associated with the X-Men rights.

And he didn't even do anything

>least original character
Guess you've never read any of her books.

There might be too much potential backlash though, because she's also black, and they have no other black female close to Storm's level.

>audience dont give a fuck
Woah there lad, i know Kamala is your waifu but you are understimating comics fans

Soon.

Is Storm even popular? She is quite uninteresting as a character. Her own nemesis is basically Shadow King, some faggot that locked her in a tiny dark box.

She's not, I'm just asking why the character who sells better and gets better reactions from the public isn't getting pushed the same way.

If you seriously think the general public cares about the level of adversity the protagonist has faced, you're overestimating casuals.

>But thank god they totally changed Homer's name to Ulysses.

That's the hilarious part about all this.

It's starting to piss me off because people like the IDEA of Carol, at least current Carol, but the character is still so fucking boring.

There are other female characters at that damned company who could be their Wonder Woman, but no they had to choose Carol's bland ass instead.

Don't even put that shit out there man.

Black Widow is surely the most popular Marvel girl now because of the movies.

Gamora, Scarlet Witch, and Jessica Jones are also bound to be more popular than Carol for the same reason. Even Sif will have had a bit of a surge

And then there's all the characters which people just like anyway: Wasp, She-Hulk, Wasp, X-23, even more obscure ones like Nico and Molly simply must have more people who like them than they do Carol.


The funniest irony of it all is that as they keep trying to seemingly force Carol into being their Wonder Woman, the kid who took her old name is the one who is actually picking up more and more fans as time goes on.

They should care but I don't think they do. They will allow anything to get attention at this point.

I could live with that

>next person on hitlist
Say that on CBR, I dare you.
Her last solo sold really shitty so...