Reminder that MJ and Peter will never reunite in Slott's time

Reminder that MJ and Peter will never reunite in Slott's time.

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Slott's an idiot, but there are people in the company with more authority than him that also think Peter's better off without MJ. Replacing Slott wouldn't bring us any closer to them getting back together. We're more likely to have Gwen genuinely come back to life and get back together with Peter.

Reminder that Spiderman will never be good in Slott's Time.

>tfw you'll live to see spidey being wrote by great writers again

Think positive, people.

Dan Slott is a slimy cancerous fat littler fucker and I hope he gets a nasty papercut right between his fingers.

If he got with Black Cat instead then I'd be fine with it.

Isn't she a straight villain now? I don't read modern Marvel currently

This.

>Slott will die in your lifetime.

Feels good man.

>We're more likely to have Gwen come back to life and get back with Peter.
Likely the outcome of Dead No More, with her popularity skyrocketing and MJ out of the picture. It's a good idea to finally develop an actual personality for Gwen but it's Slott so he'll fuck up real bad and people will hate her even more. It's sad really.

Shit, that's a good point, they may be trying to make Gwen into a 616 version of Spider-Gwen.

>Douglas Ernst
Opinion discarded

Fuck off Slott

>Otto takes over Peter's body
>he punches Felica and leaves her for the cops to find
>her wealth and reputation are all gone
>she escapes from prison after Peter comes back and decides to kill Spidey because she inexplicably gives a rat's ass about what criminals think of her
>he goes out of his way to prove that it wasn't really him that betrayed her
>she decides she doesn't care and wants to become the next top crime lord because fuck you
>Silk's writer presents her as not 100% evil but still pretty bad
>everyone else presents her as a total villain

>Gwenfags, pls

I'm not a Gwenfag. I still want Peter and MJ to get back together (and if I can't have that, I want Felicia to go back to being a hero and get together with him again), but given how much Marvel's been pushing Gwen lately, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they go down that path.

Wait theyre not going to have Spider Gwen in 616 are they? Also whats with that Iron Spider Mary Jane?

Wasn't that decision made by people higher on the totem pole than he is?

>the Spidey comics have mostly been crap since JMS left
>Spider-man hasn't had a good movie since 2004
>Spider-man hasn't had a good cartoon since 2009
>Spider-man hasn't had a decent game since Ultimate Spider-man in 2005, inb4 Shattered Dimensionsfags
This is a real shit time for Spider-man in general. Based Russos are the only saving grace.

>inb4 Shattered Dimensionsfags
>implying it was bad
>implying ASM1 the game wasnt decent

Atleast Ultimate Spider-man is finally cancelled

>It's a "your either with us or against us" thread
Not everyone who disagrees with you is Slott, Doug

SD was repetitive dog shit.

The only thing that was different in any stages was the Noir stuff and that was a desperate and piss poor attempt at stealing Arkham mechanics. What, did you like the punch out segments?

Game was shit. You only liked it cause it pandered to hardcore Spider-man fans.

Web of Shadows was fun. Also had that sexy symbiote black cat ending and shield caging symbiote wolverine.

I haven't read any current Spider-Man. What the fuck is happening?

Why not make MJ more flawed or something then if he now is into that? Not that I feel like she needs that to be interesting - I mean, she was fucking abused by her stepdad and her home was at least fucking troublesome. I like her because she is actually mentally stronger than Peter, everytime he ends up sulking she is the one that has to fish him out of it and remind him that he can't be feeling responsible for everything - because she knows by experience that shit is not a good way to live.

There should had been a final Wolverine boss fight in the Bad Endings of WoS.

He's mister fucking billionaire and is messing around with Asian chicks.

Peter runs a company and to the public Spider Man is his bodyguard. So yeah hes basically Stark now. Oh and MJ left him and works for Stark now

Basically

Are they fucking?

Not yet

I want Bendis and Slott to both die from their obesity

They are not that fat.

They should be retconned out of existance.

I'm okay with Peter running his own company and shit (seems cool, except for the fact that it's basically Stark before he revealed he was Iron Man), but why is MJ working for Stark? And what the fuck is with Miles, Gwen, and Jessica?

Woah, user. Take it easy man

This is Slott's words

>“Ann is beautiful. When you think of Peter Parker, I wanted to have this big change in the life of what makes Otto different from Peter. And when you read all the Otto Octavius stories of his background, of his growing up, of who he was — and even as Dock Ock — all the women he falls in love with, he sees them for who they are inside.

>Look at Stunner. Look at all these, like, nerdy girls he was dating as Otto. I think that’s something Otto does something better than Peter. He sees people who are truly beautiful and loves them for that.

>And you look at everyone Peter has fallen in love with, and every single one of them is superficially beautiful on the outside. And the reason for that is they’re all created by John Romita Sr., who drew everyone woman beautiful.

>What guy wouldn’t fall for Gwen Stacy or Mary Jane? Or even if he falls in love with like a Deb Whitman, yeah, she’s the girl with glasses, but she’s the girl with glasses who can suddenly take off her glasses and whip out the hair.

>Everyone Peter falls in love with is so classically beautiful, and to me that is anti-Marvel.

>To me, the Marvel Universe is not about perfect people. To me the Marvel Universe — the thing that makes it so much better than any other superhero universe — is the Marvel Universe is the book about people with feet of clay.

>When I read DC Comics, my favorite DC characters that I love the most are the most f***ed-up ones.

>the Marvel Universe is not about perfect people
>Tony hasn't had inner demon shit for years, is/was a billionare everyone loves
>Cap is peak human super solider who is always right
>Thor's a literal god
I know there's a huge amount of other characters, and a lot of them are flawed (IE Banner), but goddamn, that's such a shitty argument for Pete not to date MJ or whatever.

What a cunt.

wow

>those fucking hashtags

>Those freckles
God my motherfucking dick. Why start drawing her so hot now?

>Now

She was always cute. SHe only looked bad on the 90s with that terrible hair and giant lips.

She's looking like the main girl from Steins;Gate now

>now

Not if Bendis wants to live.

For some reason I dislike both art styles. In fact I've never really liked most of MJ except in a few select shots.
Which is kinda weird, since she's really hot.

Don't get me wrong, Slott is pure cancer, but his is what the other guy wrote over 1 tweet by Chris Evans
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Jesus

Jesus Christ what a cock. This is SJW level looking to get offended

You gonna have to get rid of Quesada and Brevoort if you want Peter/MJ

Even Bendis wants it.

Or maybe Chris Evans didn’t like what he said because his brother is gay and he took offence to that, lol Ernst is such a retard.

Slott ditched MJ and Bendis wanted to use her in one of his comics, he ships Peter and MJ so I doubt he will jave her be involved with Tony, so if there is any cucking for Peter involved I assure you it will be all Slott's doing

Reminder that the only good Peter/MJ stories are:
1) Marvel Zombies
2) Reign

>forgetting Ultimate Spider-Man
>forgetting MC2 Spider-Girl
>forgetting JMS' run

Peter didn't fall for MJ because she was pretty, JFC does Slott know anything about Spider-Man?

When we first see MJ, she is this stereotypically attractive and fun-loving party girl which is pretty much how some retarded Spider-Man fans like Slott and Quesada seem to remember her by since they didn't bother to read further than that. But that's not who she is. This was how she wanted other people to see her. At her core, Mary Jane is a broken woman who used her party girl personality as a coping mechanism, to avoid commitment and responsibility because of her past experiences with family.

Mary Jane grew up in a very unstable environment. Her father abandoned her, and her mother could barely take care of her. Her sister got married way too soon, and had two kids with a guy who didn't know what he was getting into. MJ, deep down, is a helpless romantic who would love nothing more than to live a "happily ever after" story with a great husband. But she is so afraid and convinced that she will only wind up in the same situation her mother and sister were in. So she's flaky. She loves Peter Parker, but refuses to admit it, and even originally rejects him when he proposes to her. They share this vaguely defined, complex relationship until she finally understands her problem, and marries Peter.

So it's clear then.

Gentleman, how do we kill Dan Slott?

The thing about her and Peter though is that Peter doesn't just take a beating from her, either. That's one thing the Sam Raimi movies entirely failed at, and that's why the relationship is so frustrating to watch in the movies. Peter just seems to absolutely obsess over MJ, while MJ seems to not give a single shit about Peter and treats him like garbage until it's convenient for her to date him. But this isn't the case in the comics. In the comics, Peter doesn't put up with any bullshit. If MJ can't settle down, she's not the woman he wants. And Mary Jane totally gets where he's coming from, too. After she rejects his proposal, she doesn't come "crawling back" to him. There isn't some stupid cat and mouse game where one of them is always more interested than the other. It's a very mature relationship where both of them are trying to find compromise, and are working out their own issues and discovering what they want in life.

There really was no bullshit in their relationship until Quesada and Slott decided to introduce it because they are manchildren who aren't capable of a good relationship.

>Loving auntie even when he's a fucking zombie

Why is Peter such a nice guy?

Find him a co-writer named Felicity

And now that we're in the subject who the hell is Gwen? Look at every iteration of Gwen Stacy we've seen outside of her original mostly bland appearance. In Ultimate Spider-Man, she's this rebellious punk chick. In Spider-Gwen, she's kind of a feisty female version of Peter who plays drums. In the Amazing Spider-Man movies, she's a strong, brilliant science student. In Spider-Man 3, she's a ditzy model type. In Spectacular she's this meeky geek girl with a crush on Peter. Every single Gwen we've ever seen is totally different, and that's because there's almost nothing to use as reference.

Gwen Stacy had barely any chance to display her personality, her motivations, or just generally anything about her life outside of her brief conversations with Peter. I can't even remember a single issue where we simply see them on a date. Most of the time, her appearances pick up where a date is ending, or are cut short with Peter running off to fight crime. Yes, Stan Lee did not approve of her getting killed off, but that doesn't make her the better character. I would go as far as to call Gwen the "pretty face" character, and Mary Jane the one with any real chemistry with Peter. We simply don't see enough about Gwen to really know what kind of girlfriend she was.

Which is why I never understood why some people liked 616 Gwen better than MJ, she was so dull so I don’t get the Saint Gwen true love shit, pretty much any Spidey love interest is better than her or at least has more personality.

Carlie Cooper might be worst but only because she gets a negative reaction out of people, Gwen might as well be a cardboard cut out, I guess she was angry at Peter in the Ditko era because he ignored her and that's how interesting she got.

It's hard-coded into his genes.

And he doesn't get well in Marvel Zombies. Hell, he outright states that he and the rest of the zombies are no different from the worst villains they fought with their whole eat the galaxy thing.

Of course Luke Cage tells him to man up.

I sort of stopped reading Marvel when OMD happened. I'm really behind the times.

Hard to take this argument seriously considering what he did with Silk.

Like, that completely undermines everything he said.

And then he tried to have Silk, the super special super beautiful Asian, be Peter's one true love.

Fuck you, Slott. I hope you choke on your own fat.

Fuck off quesadilla.

Keep sending him delicious salty, fatty, cholesterol laden deliveries from New York's unhealthiest fast food restaurants. His arteries are already overladen, they should shut down soon.

Is Peter still a scientist like every other important character?

Yeah.

That's kind of what I liked about Gwen, strangely. It's such a dumb romance plot straight out of anime. So it's kind of good she's dead since she's kind of a shit character.
But I still really liked her because she's a bitch that's a real tsundere, and has a vague sense there's something more to Peter.
In the end though, she's basically become a self-insert ever since the new movies, although it's better than just being a stereotype blank slate. Really strange how people say they prefer Gwen when it's obvious they just like Emma Stone.

Sorry for the shitty formatting by the way

Good to know Marvel whining about how Peter should be normal is still bullshit.

>JMS
>Sin's past and OMD
He's shit

Yeah. He's a goddamn genius that's a few tiers below the top smart guys, but he's young and handsome compared to them

He's not an average guy by any definition.

I was about to say the same thing till I checked the replies and saw yours. I don't actually find his line of reasoning entirely terrible, but he apparently gives zero shits about it in practice.

Peter was always a scientist. It's just he never did anything with his science degree besides make new Spider-shit, until JMS made him a teacher. and Defalco made his MC2 version a crime lab analyst.

Does anyone remember if he finished graduate school or not? Because IIRC he was getting a Masters in biochemistry or something during the original Clone story.

It's not him, it's May. Her christ like presence turns all evil good

The sad thing about her character is that she never got the chance to be developed. At the point in which she died she maybe even had more personality than partygirl MJ. Stan and Conway however decided that Peter was too young for marriage and their relationship was too unstable so she had to die.

>when it's obvious they just like Emma Stone
I actually really disliked the way she looked in both films. Her acting was okay but she just didn't look like a Gwen Stacy to me.

>watching porn around several people
>Around your own aunt

What the hell, Peter;

Nah that's just some kid

Oh. Never mind. Still fucked up though. Dude doesn't give a fuck.

God aunt May is the cutest parent figure ever. Her unsubscribing from every anti-Spidey newspaper and suggesting other papers should interview him or at least show him in good light was too fucking adorable.
Not to mention she genuinely looked better than MJ in some panels.

Nah mate. It mostly became shit after the Spider-Island. In the timespan of OMD to Spider-Island, there have been 20 mediocre issues top. Other than that, it was pretty great. Hell, it gave us the, NWtD, Gauntlet and Shed

well said
well, when you get the urge...

I'd actually prefer it if Gwen appeared as a pointless assistant manager in Iron Man, honestly.
Death is so boring and mundane. We already have Uncle Ben, we don't need another.
Also all due respect to the Gob, but Norman Osborn is honestly not a true arch-nemesis. He's always forced in and an evil cartoon character.
Doc Ock and Venom will always be better, and I fucking hate Eddie.

>And you look at everyone Peter has fallen in love with, and every single one of them is superficially beautiful on the outside. And the reason for that is they’re all created by John Romita Sr., who drew everyone woman beautiful.

>What guy wouldn’t fall for Gwen Stacy or Mary Jane? Or even if he falls in love with like a Deb Whitman, yeah, she’s the girl with glasses, but she’s the girl with glasses who can suddenly take off her glasses and whip out the hair.

He's actually implying Betty Brant, MJ, or Gwen are just plain superficial bitches with no inner beauty, isn't he?
Jesus fucking christ...

Why is it we either get minimal to no change in a character or completely changed to the point of unrecognizable?

>Parker is the new Stark
>Superior

Or
>Pete is a poor fuck up

Why can't we have actual normal progression fuck.

I've seen worse.
Old men in libraries just don't care. Swear I've seen at least 3 of em watching hardcore porn, and one of them was rubbing his crotch

Source: I spy on the elderly

>Death is so boring and mundane. We already have Captain George Stacy, we don't need another.

Fixed for greater Gwen Stacy relevance.

They're all white, so of course they're superficial and lame.

Asians and girls with disabilities though, now those have character.

>Death is so boring and mundane
That wasn't the case back in the 70s. People were genuinely shocked by her death. Her death is considered to be what ended the Silver Age of comics.

i know it's not a serious post but it really gets me mad to think this is pretty much Slott's opinion

The US' obsession with race is a terrible thing. I feel bad for you guys.

>
And now audiences at home will be tricked into believing killing off characters is the same as good writing.
I'll bet people burst out laughing watching Gwen die in ASM2.
Guess I can kinda respect the death for giving Spidey some rep and drama I guess?
All of it seems pointless now with all the Spider-Gwens and Gwenpools.

>Now

Nah man I'm European, but that shit they got going over there fucks with the media we consume, so it affects all of us in the end

>all the Spider-Gwens and Gwenpools.

This is a more recent thing though because those hack writers are literally out of ideas

I stopped reading spidey on the early 00s but up until that point Gwen wasn't mentioned/shown that frequently besides the fact she was dead so her death had some weight.

They're pushing her hard right now for the possible revival.

Yeah, Web of Shadows was pretty great. Could have used some more development for some of the later parts of the game, and better voice actors.

>messing around with Asian chicks
what

>They're pushing her hard now for the possible revival.
I'd love that if not for motherfucking Slott being in charge of this shit. Judging by his opinion on her and other classic love interests it's going to be shit.

Silk and that girl from Shanghai with the spider-car.

Hope this fuck falls down the stairs

She is bit of a boring character compare to the other girls.

Why do fans want her anyway?

Did Peter ever fuck Liz?

Mostly because of how disgustingly their relationship was written off.
And, you know, she's been his girl since forever.