What was the purpose of this scene?

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to make you watch this dumb movie

its supposed to evoke memories of dresden, where the "master race" was incinerated by their "sub human" victims

To be the best scene in the entire movie. They really should have spent more time developing David and Shaw's interactions after arriving at the Engineer's planet.

david is a metaphor for the man ridley scott has become, a deranged half man chasing something he could never properly grasp in his current state. weyland is ridley when he made the original alien, david is ridley now. david(ridley) is OBSESSED with creating the perfect organism(alien movie), this scene is a metaphor of what ridley is doing to the franchise. just as david haphazardly tries to force new life by smashing dna together, ridley tries to force a good movie by throwing every half brained idea he gets in his head in it. every one of those pods is another dementia idea he gets in his self induced fever dreams

To delete the Engineers from the Alien franchise so Ridley doesn't have to explain them

kek

So the ending wasn't supposed to be a twist for the audience right?

I mean it was pretty obvious that was David pretending to be Walter. Or does Scott just think that audiences are too retarded to be able to figure it out?

JUST TO FUCK OVER THE PEOPLE EXPECTING

A DEEP PLOT ABOUT CREATION

FUCK THOSE PEOPLE

LOL PLOTS AND SHIT

The movie should have just been David and Shaw interacting together.

>You can actually buy a toy of this

Apart from it being super obvious, how did David change clothes, saw off his arm and go swallow some embraaaay lmaos and still get on the leaving shuttle?

He's a super efficient android, I figure he'd only need about 5 minutes tops to do everything that needed to be done.

So was Jesus literally an Engineer? Does this movie resolve that implication from Prometheus?

For you to look upon it and despair of ever getting another decent Alienverse movie
Perhaps. There's definitely a half-baked Satanist theme about David's rebelllion against his creators, so David also killing Jesus' kinsmen would fit.

Where did the floating hook thing go? If it crashed, why don't we see its wreck over the city?

It's possible that it was still attached to the ship when David crashed it? Or whatever, I mean that's the least of the movie's problems.

they made the proboscis look like a dick? haha it didn't look like that in the movie

that thing went from 1 foot long to 10 foot plus a shitton of tentacles just sitting in that medbay.

Just like my japanese cartoons.

Why did David crash the engineer ship with no survivors?

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To trigger plebs like you who couldn't understand the deep symbolism of the created destroying its creator.

But the xenos didn't destroy David?

What was the point of that even? The ships could simply land why did they need that highly inefficient floating platform?

Not yet.

That happens in the next movie.

What's deep about that?

unironically this

The xenomorph in Alien goes from being a snake to Kareem Abdul Jabbar after munching bits off some people in about an hour.

its a representation of the continuing white genocide in europe

pretty stupid too, but not nearly as bad as calamari to room sized giant squid

My dick can go from tiny wormlet to 6 incher beast in seconds. It's not unheard of.

you know what, fuck you, i enjoyed the ridiculous reproduction paths leading to the deacon. the male/female/male/female aspects getting so completely fucked is extremely giger.

I would rather want to know how the fuck she managed to commander an alien ship.
I get that david probably started it with the fluet, but everything after she basically just starts a derelict space ship that has been turned off for thousands of years.

Best scene in the movie, although I disagree with the fact that it was all we were shown of the Engineers.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SEQUEL TO A MOVIE ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF MANKIND
WHY DID COVENANT ANSWER NONE OF THE QUESTIONS PROMETHEUS POSED
For fuck's sake Ridley

That's because you fill it with blood from the rest of your body dum dum. Also isn't the xeno supposed to be silicon based, how does it even get the silicon and eat humans?

Originally it could change from carbon to silicon, also in some media it eats rocks not humans.

dude explosions lmao

Does David even understand the poem he kept quoting? Ozymandias' legacy is a busted statue in a desolate wasteland, is that really who he wants to compare himself to?

underrated

How did David think it was by Byron? And what was the significance of him being wrong about the auteur?

Also knowing he ""loved"" Dr Shaw, you guys think it is possible that he took extra pleasure in poisoning her husband?

What did he even mean by saying he loved her? Is Walter still alive?

Honestly I liked it, really loved that David resented humans and did but I didn't hate Prometheus either so idk. Wonder if he did it before or after finding answers and if Shaw was still alive when it happened?

To show how imperfect the engineers were that all of them could get wiped out with a simple pathogen, David was testing too see how strong the engineers really were with the pathogen.

I have one of these

Who created the engineers?

You could blame all the people who hated prometheus and wanted another movie like Aliens

True. The movie seemed like a compromise between Aliens and Prometheus and as a result failed at being either. Should have stuck with the feel and themes of Prometheus more closely. The Prometheus-type scenes in Covenant were the "best" thing about the movie.

What was the purpose of this thread?

Anybody else think they could've made more out of the fact that they had couples on the ship?
I was expecting more than the one single moral dilema that Danny McBride faced (try to save your partner for the price of jeopardizing 2000+ souls) and more backlash from other crew members when he made his decision. Could've been a bit more interesting but felt like a way to make each death seem more impactful (especially first one ofc).

I feel like the couples situation was a convenient way to get everyone to act irrationally.

>What was the purpose of this scene?


kino, pure kino

Ancient humans.

Yeah it was pretty cheap and obvious. Wish they had in turn done more with it.

Appeals to the jews because they were mass murdered too

Why did he reveal himself to MCgirl in the end? Why did he want her personally to suffer?

>Why did he reveal himself to MCgirl in the end?

I don't think he was planning on it, but after she realized he wasn't Walter he just decided he might as well confirm her suspicions.

Brainlet. "He" either died or was left out the planet.

He was walter, you idiot.

"he" being Walter? How does my post imply otherwise?
But nice theory I guess, you think David managed to turn him against humans offscreen? Why say something about code David to mother then?
Same poster?

David Uploaded His Programming into Walter...

You will recall that Daniels stabs David in the chin with the nail pendant that she wears. Note that the android that is aboard the ship at the end of the movie bears no such scar, indicating that the android chassis is that of Walter. However, it is clear that David's A.I. now resides in the ch

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>same poster

Yes.

>Theroy

It is no Theroy. David did not do anything to him, and it was all planned.

The fact that people think Walter did not make it back to the ship astounds me. The fact that ridley tricked a billion fucking moviegoers shows this is true kino, when he threw it in your face.

I will explain in detail if you want, but think about what walter did during the first scene in the movie when everyone was still in cryo and what walter did at the very end.

Nope. Wrong, Walter was working against the crew the entire time. From scene one. Think. see

It's a warning. How homosexuals will wipe out the white race harnessing the power of the BBC

>and it was all planned.

I don't get it. What did he do in the beginning? Look at everybody? I was not very attentive becuase we were running late and I had to settle down.

Explain to me please like I'm a 5 year old brainlet.

And who created ancient humans?

>nail endant that she wears

Who, MCgirl? Didn't even see he ripped it off her, then again I forgot my glasses :(

Wheat farmers.

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so they don't have to bother with engineer stuff

>is that really who he wants to compare himself to?

I thought it was obvious he was comparing humanity/the engineers to the poem
>How did David think it was by Byron?
David believes he's a Byronic hero, he's actually something of a frankenstein monster

He took human embryos out of their containment.

He put them infected back into containment.

He brought embryos to the planets surface for ONE reason.

The "neutrino burst"? They are astrologically normal events happening at semi regular intervals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_gamma_repeater

He put the ship where it could be hit.

He killed the captain. Why? He would never go off mission. But who would? Why, the guy who believes in miracles would. On a much smaller note, he also genuinely loved the girl, and was jealous as David so aptly put; "I know the truth'. (he saved the girl many times).

He then prevented the captain from doing a systems check of him and the computer. "it was randum lel". People bought it due to grief and panic.

But how did he know. Well, he clearly got a signal, and knew who it was from "david". He just needed to push it to the redneck pilot in a way that would pique his interest. He could not just go "hey, go to this trap". Its not like some random space suit got a signal that the ship did not.

Keep in mind that the first two points are the most important and cannot be argued any other way other than "Walter was working against the crew the entire time"

There is plenty more, but those points leading up to them meeting david show walter was working against them.

He cleaned up faulty embryos. Did you not see him throwing it in the biohazard bucket he holds? Walter is a good robot, that David uploaded his consciousness into

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This is canon from Ridley Scott

This is from the book

Walter awoke.

He was back online. His sensors told him he was without body. David had decapitated him. It was completely dark. He could smell and taste organic cloth.

He was in a sack.

David must of woven it. Such creativity.
Walter also determined he was surrounded by stone. Jammed into a crevice or stored in a box, perhaps dropped down a dry well? He did not know.

Walter could hear footsteps.....
The USCSS Nostromo was preparing to get underway......

Weren't the human embryos "broken"? Blood spilled etc, thought they had not survived so he removed them.

neutrino burst and captain dying did seem fishy to me though, I suspected him in the beginning but then he seeed so helpful in the rest of the movie I dropped it, idk.

>He took human embryos out of their containment.
I thought something went wrong with them and he had to dispose of them? It was also an introduction to the idea of embryo's on the ship
>He put them infected back into containment.
?

Other than that, interesting theory

>He cleaned up faulty embryos.

Fake and gay. If they were faulty they sure a shit were not when he put them right back, alienfied. You cant argue against this. There is ZERO (0) reason for walter to take the embryos planetside. None. Yet he did.

Ridley is taking you for a ride, and you are buying it.

>Weren't the human embryos "broken"?

Nope. They all had a little umbilical cord coming off of them. It was not blood.

>I thought something went wrong with them and he had to dispose of them?

He did NOT dispose of them though, he very clearly took them planetside.

That was the other Shelley, though the subtitle of said book is Modern Prometheus no? So much pottery man. But you're right, it seems clear that he was quoting Ozymandias while looking over the ruined engineer city.

>That was the other Shelley, though the subtitle of said book is Modern Prometheus no?

I know, it's still connected to Shelley though(wife) and yes.

Walter didn't take any embryos to the planet Where are you getting this from? The xeno embryos are david's work.

In the end its David. He even says his code to mother
>Use code David 73694-B
And he asks Mother to play the same song he played for Weyland in the intro of the movie.

I think you are taking yourself for a ride and are seeing things that are not there. At all. Walter disposed of ruined Embryos, he did not take any embryos down to the planet.

>He did NOT dispose of them though
He put them in a bio-hazard waste container?
>he very clearly took them planetside
When?

and who..?

Here's the link to the podcast where Ridley confirms that David uploaded himself into Walter at the fight

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Kill all whites

>The xeno embryos are david's work.

How the fuck did he create human fucking embryos on a desolate planet, then infected them with alieum, kept them stable for who knows how long, all so he could put them on a ship?

he could NOT with the tools available to him?

They looked EXACTLY like the high tech self contained embryos Walter took off the ship.

Because they were.

>He even says his code to mother

Yet you missed the -B. He was the upgraded model. In a sense Walter = David.

>He put them in a bio-hazard waste container?

He did put them in storage unit, yes.

>When?

Proven when he regurgitated them back up.

in Covenant aliens grow from literal microscopic spores to fully functional organisms the size of a human head in 15 mins and the host maintains enough internal integrity that they only get killed by it leaving their body.

He didn't create human embryos, those are alien embryos.

Again, listen to the podcast with Ridley Scott himself Its David at the end of the movie, he uploaded himself into Walter and took the XENO embryos DAVID had CREATED on board.

You are seeing things in a movie that are not there.

>those are alien embryos.

Aliens dont have embryos, furthermore they were clearly human alien/hybrid embryos. They were very clearly the same self contained embryos walter took off the ship.

>Ridly said something

Ridley also said stuff about engineers. Ridley lies, my friend.

>You are seeing things in a movie that are not there.

You are ignoring whats right in front of your face.

I mean, its just a super duper coincidence that the captain died, from fire in a fucking cryo tank, so the guy who believes in miracles would go to off mission to a miracle planet.

Man you are stupid

>Proven when he regurgitated them back up.

those are alien embryos David was working on

>Aliens dont have embryos
We literally, virtually and in every way saw Davids work on creating a neomorph. We saw infant drawings, fetuses, skulls.
How are you this dense? Just how? David created xeno embryos.

You are inventing things that are not there. Walter did not bring any embryos to the planet. He disposed of embryos that had been ruined by space travel.

>those are alien embryos David was working on

David was working on creating hybrids using aliens own internal mechanisms for cross species infection and gestation. He did NOT have access to human embryos, and not the ones off the Covenant.

>Brainlet confirmed for unable to understand very simple things.

Stupid things in Alien covenant
-the original alien "virus" is a somehow able to fly in a directed , sentient way as a virus. No, viruses, tiny protein shells with a dna injection system, are not able to fly and propel themselves. That is not how spores work.
- aliens going from tiny to fully grown in a couple of minutes despite having nothing they could have eaten in that time. Where did the mass come from? even if metabolically it were possible to grow that fast, there's no mass. Really lazy
-when the xenomorph was climbing around the ship, it climbed DIRECTLY THROUGH A THRUSTER and suffered only some light burns which it shrugged off. This is a jet generating enough thrust to lift 1/4 of a very heavy aircraft. it would PUSH the alien clear off the space ship at many miles per hour and annihilate any part of the alien which touched the jet stream. which it climbed entirely through directly.
-And worst of all, one of the crew members was attacked by a facehugger but the implantation of the egg was interrupted and only some of the acidic blood landed on his face. You can tell the implantation was interrupted because he did not go unconscious at all like the religious guy. YET this crew member with the alien acid on his cheek STILL spawned a fully grown alien!! How ?! what the fuck kind of life cycle is that? It reproduces via an egg but it can also reproduce from any cell of it's blood?! that's fucking stupid . why would it develop an egg devliery system if every single cell of it ca infect and reproduce in a new host? that makes the egg totally redundant. complete break with continuity and stupid.


And that's only all the things stupid about the film when it came to the aliens.

You saw various life cycles of the aliens using their own mechanisms. Aliens have never, ever, in any sense, had embryos. Their very life cycle forbids it. It makes no sense.

>David created xeno embryos.

David had zero means to create a human/xeno hybrid embryo (the only way to get that would be to infect a human embryo, which would require very high tech long term storage or low tech short term storage.)

Your arguement is the guy marooned on a planet had the means to create a self contained embryo sac that did not gestate into a full alien.

>they were clearly human alien/hybrid embryos
they were very clearly mini face huggers
there was nothing human about them

>He did NOT have access to human embryos, and not the ones off the Covenant.
I never said he did. I do think it's hinted that he has alien embryo's. He showed Walter a fossilized bug with black goo DNA

Wrong, they had a tail, but they had arms and legs just like a human.

Watch it again.

He created with Shaw, he experimented on her. We saw his drawings of it. We saw the results of it. Everyone excepts you says that it is David at the end of the movie, regurgitating solidified xeno embryos that he has created.
Even the director of the movie says this.

user, embryos have a symbiotic relationship with their host. Aliens lifecycle are most definitely not.

Furthermore, and again, they were the same embryonic sacs that were taken off the ship. Same size, same shape, same color, the only thing that was different was the hybrid in them.

>the facehugger injects an embryo into a host
Okay. This guy is just beyond retarded.

Yes, but shaw died long ago. He was marooned on the planet for more than a decade.

The self contained embryos (which would have been impossible to create) would have either gestated or died.