I'm going to kill and innocent man because you are misusing his powers

>I'm going to kill and innocent man because you are misusing his powers
>tony is the good guy in this
So which Inhuman is going to kick his ass when he gets to Attilan?

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>tony is the good guy
said no one ever.

I think the Kamala book is guilty for popularizing dot faces in background character.

I don't get Tony's logic.

They stopped two doomsday threats, and he's mad because Rhodey died fighting Thanos? What were they supposed to do? Let hundreds of people die first? But that's okay, because they don't know them.

Tony's side makes no sense. At all.

> What were they supposed to do?

Probably call some better equipped people for the job. Rhodey isn't exactly cosmic material.

Team up with cyclops when

Is suicide by Inhuman gonna be a thing now?

I just can't wrap my brain around what Tony's argument is

maybe he would be if he wasnt in tonys hand-me-downs from fucking thirty years ago

Karnak, obviously.

Tony is right the inhumans reliability is questionable but there is a middle ground between taking his word as God and ignoring leads. In typical marvel fashion there is a real nuanced issue that is ignored for retarded character drama.

I would love that, but Medusa will probably do it

Iso and Crystal combination attack

it looks fine

Highly detailed face on tony, that ends in super blocky dull looking armor, while in the background Carol has an almost none existance face while her suit is missing several of the damaged portions shown in previous shots, as well as having no eyepatch.

It's the coloring. It's shit.

Yeah I guess that why Tony deliberately blew off upgrading his armor.

Tony:
>MUH PET NIGGER
Carol:
>MUH 4th BEST FRIEND

There have been wrestling feuds with more coherent stakes

Karnak is set to destroy his entire life.

>main moral quandary of the book is one of the most well worn tropes of modern science fiction
ugggggggggghhhhhhhhhh
how can an army of professional comic book writers not come up with a fresher plot than a short story from 1956

>Civil War I: Tony is unsympathetic because he's being evil
>Civil War II: Tony is unsympathetic because he's being a moron

... I guess that's progress?

>Civil War II
>Characters reasons making sense

Pick one

Tony has been wrong in literally every Civil War thus far.

Wtf Medusa. Sheesh.No wonder people are afraid to say anything to the inhumans. Muties should learn from them

Still that dose not mean i like this. For fuck sakes your heroes. Act like it.

Even the secret war tie in?

Society as a whole will never escape this garbage. Best just strap yourself in.

And kamala is on there side??what about spiderman? Mj is working for Tony right now, he should do something

Why does he have a midget hand

>mfw when i realized today was 616

And all we get is Civil War II

No, Kamala is on Tony's side. Spider-man is on Team "If we had this power when I was young then Uncle Ben wouldn't have died. UNCLE BEEEEEEEN!!!!!"

The reason Max was their only recurring villain is because they kill pretty much everyone else. Besides doing fucked up things to protect their people is a staple of the Inhumans.

What better way to spend Marvel Day than to read a Bendis-written sequel to a shitty event comic?

>Hey, our friend and reasonably frequent ally is acting irrationally after losing someone he cares about
>Better destroy his entire livelihood

There was a time when I would blame this on Bendis or on editorial, but I've come to realize this is bigger than that. I blame the entire goddamn concept of events. Fuck events. They're entire existence is based around forcing characters to fit into a predetermined plot rather than letting the plot arise naturally from the characters. It's horseshit.

This is one thing the Civil War movie managed to avoid and I'm super thankful for that. Despite all ideological differences and personal tragedy, Cap extends the hand of friendship in the end. He kept the bigger picture in perspective. That would never happen in a modern event comic. Not in a million years.

>maximus comes back the following chapter
They are going for a full Heel turn.

Karnak is going to beat up MJ

Still can't believe Diaz did this

God could we stop with the covers of the puppets and chess imagery?

I hate this "armor" it's so fucking lazily designed. He might as well just be wearing a long sleeved shirt, because that's what it looks like.

They even got Tony's hypocrisy right in the MCU

>People are using my weapons to kill
>Better go kill them with my weapons

I thought he was wearing a shirt at first

Why does Crystal put up with this shit? Has she not realized by now that her family is totally deranged?

>muh rhodey

Half of Crystal character is putting her family before everything. It's why she begrudgingly goes along with shit like War of Kings.

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>Cap extends the hand of friendship in the end. He kept the bigger picture in perspective.

Yeah and the movie suffered for it. We had all this huge tension for fucking nothing. It's back to status quo so next movie more heroes can show up and etc etc etc. Garbage.

She needs to wise up or at least kick her sister's ass. Crystal doesn't need to put up with this crap. She was a real Avenger.

I thought the implication was that Tony was gonna kill Thanos.

So they were attacked.

Medusa de-escalated the fight so her people's public opinion and random civillians don't get hurt.

And we're supposed to be angry that she wants to hurt Stark for attacking them?

>Dane avengers
honestly she should be ashamed. That being said I thought the A in A-force stood for Avenger. Also the Illuminati stories always happen in the new avengers books.

>thinking about the well being of humans and her people
>bad
user, stark declared war so it is obvious that he is going to come back. They had to do something, and they could have went full auto on him but chose not too.

Jacket Avengers is underrated at you know it.

Medusa's completely in the right. unlike Tony she's keeping other people out of it. She's making sure he won't be a repetitive threat if he tries this again.

No. She says it clear as day. She's going to punish him. This isn't some preventative measure for the greater good. She's pissed at Tony and is going to fuck him over.

It really only sounds bad because of the take what he loves line. However rereading it seems like she means to demoralize him more than anything starting with his business, not like kill his friends and loved ones. Even the cover is Karnak kicking stark tower.

Tony's being impulsive and reckless, which, sure, is understandable when your best friend just died.

But after he's had some time to cool off and someone calls him on his shit, he's going to do what he always does and double down on his position.

Right now, I can sympathize with him. But when he continues to blame Carol and that Inhuman way longer than reasonable is when he's an asshole.

Because he attacked her.

And instead of doing a fight where she knows other people who have nothing to do with it will get hurt. And harm the opinion of her people. She's going to cripple him in a nonviolent fashion back.

I don't even like the Inhumans. But I don't see how she's in the wrong here.

Why is Marvel trying so hard to make the Inhumans a thing?

No one fucking cares about discount Mutants.

This art is painful. I have to force my eyes to be able to focus on anything.

This whole event is to prop up Carol. They want her as their new headline woman character so kicking Iron Man's ass ethically and literally is the most logical move.

It's no mistake they announced the lead for the Captain Marvel movie, either.

Because they have to make people care about them when-I mean, if the movie comes out.

Because they are still trying to do a movie

Why do you care? If you are certain they will fail then just wait it out.

Outside of Kamala, and maybe Medusa/Black Bolt, I have no idea.

Because they can't make movie money off the real mutants

People like Kamala for being Kamala, not because she's an inhuman.

Inhumans desperately ride her coattails, not the other way around.

His new armor looks so boring.

>sales are less then they were before the launch despite being the avengers and a couple games
Sup Forums greatly overestimates her popularity

>Inhumans desperately ride her coattails
How can they do that when neither books acknowledge the others and Uncanny was outselling her until last month?

what? spiderman help him

I don't really have any argument there besides 'Fuck you, I like her.'

This, I don't think Kamala has even said the word Inhuman this volume. If anybody was riding it is carol, she got the last days team up, she saved the day in the clone saga, and she is back again for civil war, and Carol's book is selling worst than both the Inhumans and Kamala.

I don't get it partly, I meanw hat is he going to do? Kill the inhuman?
However that said it sort of is the minority report effect, you have a guy who sees the undetermined future, Carol goes after shit that is yet to happen so pretty much unprepared as fuck as is, unnecessary people die and get injured just cause she doesn't want to solve it during the period the actual vision happens and they actually know what goes on that moment. Pretty much she shouts wolf before the wolf gets there and it will all go downhill from here.

>what is he going to do? Kill the inhuman?
Let's put it like this. If Ulysses doesn't see it coming there goes his cred.

Tony isn't 100% right but he has a point. Carol is like Scott right now listening to Cable who has a million stories for a million futures every time he shows up.
Yet seldom are the stories specific, and more often than not they fail to mention ripple effects from being heeded.
>How would they know the result before the cause?
How the fuck are they circumventing the paradox of knowing the future at all while they're literally preventing it by so much as talking about it in the past?

Further people accuse Tony of implying somehow he wanted Thanos to just walk, where? When?

Further anyone using Tony's fuck ups in the past like AvX, CW and all the Illuminati stuff are clearly missing the fact that someone who has experience with how quickly south this sort of discuss nothing while playing god shit can go would be the exact person to warn you when the Altimeter's having a seizure.

No. No, I'm sorry. If I were in 616 I'm not leaving my fate to some junkie Inhuman. Fuck that kid and his shroom trips. Uatu's dead, that should tell you how well these prediction types see it coming.

>Best just strap yourself in.
Or vote with your wallet and not read this shit.

>But I don't see how she's in the wrong here.
Because her plan won't work. Because her plan will backfire in ways that defeat the purpose of her efforts. Because revenge doesn't solve anything and only begets more revenge.

Team Carol tried to be proactive rather than reactive, which defies typical superhero tropes, and as a result Tony's best friend died.They'll try to use it as the reason you don't rely on predicting the future (which is a really dumb way for a futurist to think), but really Carol's only mistake was to take a crew of mostly B-listers to fight fucking Thanos, the guy that pimp-slaps the Hulk down.

Still kill an innocent person is not the solution

>Carol's only mistake was to take a crew of mostly B-listers to fight fucking Thanos.

This too. In fact, I'm pretty sure that in more than 40 years of stories, even Captain America, if he can, took advantage of secure information to make ambush the villans. Carol is simply went there unprepared.

he is always so emotional ;_;

>Because revenge doesn't solve anything and only begets more revenge.

Is this why Batman is so useless?

>Tony vs Inhumans
Would the Xmen side with him?

Iron Man suit looks like shit.

but it makes sense there. The goofy fluidity of the art works really well for what her powers are. In more detailed art stiles her powers come off kinda grotesque.

You know what the worst part is?
Rhodey dying has nothing to do with the molarity of using Ulysses.
If Carol had gotten the intel that Thanos was going to attack Earth from literally anyone else (the GotG, the Sh'iar, Starfox...) things would have gone exactly the same.
I could understand if Tony blames Carol for taking Rhodey on the mission, but Tony is instead blaming Carol for having gone on a mission based on intel from Ulysses. It make no fucking sense. He's basically arguing that they should have just let Thanos do whatever he wants and get the Cosmic Cube, even if it means Thanos destroying the world (which would also lead to Rhodey's death).

I don't think his plan is to kill him. He probably either intends to kidnap him and keep him away from Carol, or he intends to depower him somehow.
Either way, Tony is being an unreasonable asshole who is angry at this kid for the unforgivable sin of giving valuable intel that saved lives. It would be like blaming an informant for tipping off the cops of where to find a terrorist because one of the officers happened to die during the arrest.

Its textures haven't loaded in yet.

You really haven't looked at comics from outside the US I take? I mean, at all?

>It's back to status quo
>avengers on the run from the world governments
>status quo

>futurist

Futurism isn't about knowing the future, it's about dreaming of it and then making it happen. I guess determinism would be terrifying to a person like that.

Is there a reason she didn't take the rest of the Ultimates to take on fucking Thanos?

He probably hasn't

This coming from the guy who said this bullshit

Superior Tone is dead
we don't know how, but he is

She did take the ultimates

who is this awful artist?

Poser Pro 11

>implying David Marquez learned Poser from Mike Deodato

Wait he's going to kill Ulysses? I thought he was going to kill Thanos?

Nope, next issue is about him doing a sneak attack on Attilan to kidnap (not kill) Ulysses.
Tony is blaming the source of information instead of the threat itself, which is fucking stupid.
Thanos is pretty much immortal, so it's not like Tony can do anything to him.

>Nope, next issue is about him doing a sneak attack on Attilan to kidnap (not kill) Ulysses.
In Civil War II X-Men Tony has a competitor in that regard: Magneto.

And in Uncanny Inhumans #13 Karnak will try to stop Tony.