Clinton and Trump are currently tied in the polls, and so far Trump's never been able to maintain a lead over Hillary that lasted more than a week. It seems unlikely Trump's going to be able to win over a substantial number of voters in the future, given increasingly polarized politics and extremely low polling numbers for minorities. Don't count on Bernie supporters flocking to Trump, either; 90% will support Hillary anyway. washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/
In short, the odds aren't exactly in his favor. Clinton will likely make the argument in the coming days that Trump has no real experience in politics and cannot be counted on to support the working class, which may slowly eat away at the only advantage he has: turnout from working-class whites. How do you think Trump can effectively position himself for the general election?
Trump cannot win. Republican-leaning states like Utah, Ohio, and Indiana will vote Johnson.
Jose Hughes
>debates
Clinton will get crushed.
Kayden Harris
>90% will support Hillary anyway.
At least 50% aren't going to vote
Landon Barnes
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>3rd party votes matter
this is your first election, I see.
Julian Hughes
...
Jayden Reed
>heat street Come on now, user.
Easton Carter
>Muh viable third party
Kill yourself
Ayden Hughes
>and so far Trump's never been able to maintain a lead over Hillary that lasted more than a week.
>attack over 70% of Americans >surprised you don't got a lead
SHOCKING
Jacob Mitchell
>there tied
Holy shit trump can't win
fucking kill yourself
Thomas Cook
In Utah they matter. It's an even split within the margin of error between Trump, Clinton, and Johnson. If Mitt Romney endorses Johnson, the Mormons will follow.
Daniel Bell
>mexicans are over 70% of Americans
Jacob Sanders
How could anyone believe this ever? Everytime Trump mud slings Hillary will just point out how childish it is and ill fitting for a potential president and whenever a matter of real policy comes up she will fuck him like a blow up doll. I dislike Clinton greatly but even I am not this disillusioned.
To OP, I don't think he can win. In the next 100 days he will say more and more inflamitory things, as long as gets worse and worse he will lose votes- his only real hope is continued leaks on clitons side.
Jace Walker
>Clinton's speech >Mostly very positive
How the fuck are these dumbasses falling for her bullshit?
Wyatt Scott
Mexicans are 10% of the voting population and 15% of the US population.
Grayson Scott
Are you retarded her poll number are in the tank, how much do you get payed for damage control for a shitty campaign.
Hope you're not going to suggest that facts are funded by Soros.
Robert Howard
by the time of the election these numbers wont matter
Grayson Garcia
Let Trump know about this.
Dominic Morris
Trump will win guys. Kek wills it.
Brandon Gonzalez
>Clinton and Trump are currently tied
No, actually hillary already won
most of women vote hillary Baby boomer and X-gen male vote hillary minority vote hillary
because they stand with "Right Side of History"
America white women are so ashamed of being white
America white women ashamed of having Anglo-Saxon heritage
Brody Bennett
Indoctrination's a hell of a drug.
Trump can make them question their beliefs and worldview all he wants, but it just takes a single bullshit filled speech from """the good side""" to placate them.
Tyler Garcia
Meme magic only goes so far, my friend.
Brandon Perez
despite the polls trumps support hasnt actually declined. its why the media couldnt prevent him winning in the primary. according to any abc poll rubio would have won and half of cnns stuff showed jeb winning
maybe trump supporters dont care what hillary says. she cant win them over or discourage them from voting
John Sanders
>70% Americans
I'm an immigrant. My white parents adopted me and legalized me. Are you saying all immigrants are illegal you fucking racist? There's nothing wrong with kicking out the illegals because they're leeching resources that should be used for Americans and American citizens. Trump is not a bad guy for suggesting that ILLEGALS should follow the law and get the fuck out.
Get fucked, shill.
Angel Thompson
Kek has a point
chekkeked
James Sanders
checked
you are giving mixed signals here
Kevin Allen
No but her campaign is. Millions of dollars funded by Soros and other globalists and there tied that is a great fucking campaign.
Leo Scott
>Implying CNN polls are 100% accurate and unbiased
Trump has spent virtually no money on ads yet, either, compared to HRC.
Carson Long
you talk like an intern thats been exposed to the politicians lingo. so obvious shill.
Colton Sanders
Fuck off CTR shills. How have you failed to realize this far in the election that you cannot stump the Trump?
Connor Howard
>a "news" network very much in Clinton's pocket couldn't possibly have faked the poll numbers
Leo Lee
>wapo
into the trash
Logan Mitchell
How do you fall for Trumps bullshit?
Hunter Scott
Meme magic was responsible for Bexit. And that was a much more daunting task to overcome than a Trump presidency. KEK wills a landslide win for the God Emperor.
Landon Campbell
vendejo
Colton Barnes
Trump will win
but not because Kek wills it necessarily.
Such wisdom is wasted on us foolish spergles my divine froglord
Levi Torres
Trump does not bullshit, kike.
Robert Sullivan
Trump portrayed a world based largely on recent statistics from major cities in a country where crime has been steadily declining for 25 years. Fears of terrorism and immigration are areas where he has leverage, but polls suggest it doesn't convince the requisite amount of voters. Regardless of whether you think he's correct, Hillary may effectively argue that Trump is misleading Americans, especially with the support of a fairly stable economy. How does Trump convince people who are having trouble deciding? I'm curious what supporters think, even if a lot of it is just shitposting.
See RCP average.
Adrian Hall
Just lol at believing these numbers. I bet you also believe the Jews didn't plan 9/11 and that the civil war was about slavery.
Liam Allen
Memeing can't defend you from supporting the least educated less willing to learn canidate in American history, hick.
Christopher Bell
Because he says le funny XD memes that me and the guys joke about during gym class.
Isaac Nguyen
Trump is an Ivy League educated elite. What the fuck are you talking about? Nice to see the CTR shills out in force today.
Take note, kike. Americanism, not globalism will be our credo!
Jackson Allen
t. David Icke
Hudson White
>How do you fall for Trumps bullshit?
Because their stupid.
Jack Scott
Wrong use of their smart guy. You mean "they're". Ironic is it not?
Nathaniel Campbell
Their stupid what?
Asher Morris
puta de madre cara de mono brown nigger
William Davis
>How could anyone believe this ever?
I just got done with a 1 week road trip where I forgot to bring my music and phone, and we had to listen to the radio.
The news says nothing. NPR did nothing but shill for the left and would make shit up about things Donald said without even playing a clip of him. We went across 3 states and could find no other source of information on the news that said anything differently. They would just announce his opinion like we should take what they say at face value.
The reason we think Donald will embarrass the fuck out of her so bad that she will crap in her adult diaper is because we are getting actual information.
Michael Brown
This. Berns side has deflated like a balloon. They wont vote or will go third party or Trump
Trumps numbers will be even higher than the primary's
Matthew Richardson
>Clinton will likely make the argument in the coming days that Trump has no real experience in politics
And therein lies his appeal. People know that time in Washington = accumulation of poison in the soul.
Eli Cox
A huge number of middle and poor Americans are never going to admit that they are voting for Trump, but when they get in the booth they are going to choose him.
Just like Brexit, Americans don't want their shit pushed in by Arabs, tired of jobs going overseas and sick of corruption.
"Just fuck my shit up" Will be the motto
Praise kek
Ayden Kelly
3% more of the white vote and we'd all be saying president romney right now
Adrian Jones
3% more of the white vote and we'd all be saying president romney right now
David Roberts
How much could you make worthlessly posting stupid bullshit on a truth forum?
Camden Fisher
OK, but how does he win over the voters? Polls show he's having difficulty maintaining a lead over Hillary. Even assuming a large margin of error, it's difficult to foresee Trump winning by the margins you regularly see forecasted here. I know what he's already doing. What does he do in response to current issues?
That's how he's attracted his central base, but not how he wins over newer voters. We're talking about the kind of people who distrust Hillary but question whether Donald will be able to effectively advocate for them. Distrust of Hillary =/= support of Trump.
Kevin Long
CHECKED AND KEK'D
Jose Murphy
Wtf
Jackson Wright
>Distrust of Hillary =/= support of Trump.
Yes but in the privacy of the voting booth that all melts away. People do not skew independent at the crunch time moment.
Truly indecisive people will jump to Trump at the last minute, unable to bear Hillary and too scared to vote for a third-party instaloser.
If their distrust of Hillary is high enough they will not abdicate their chance to prevent her from winning.
Isaiah James
Jesus Christ dude. Polls are showing the exact opposite. The thirds parties are cutting votes from Hillary not Trump, Johnson will get at the most 4%. How fucking new to life are you?
Angel Adams
Ever since Correct The record increased it's budget from 1 million to 6 million, you shills have been in full force. The polls are tied because of a ridiculous Reuters poll that grossly over sampled democrats that had Clinton up +5.
Jordan Mitchell
I don't think that crime overall is an issue. I would argue he is more for supporting the police than black lives matter.
If you look at their sites Trump actually is focusing on the working class.
>OK, but how does he win over the voters? Polls show he's having difficulty maintaining a lead over Hillary.
He doesn't he just needs to hold his while Hillary loses hers in the next scandal.
Hunter Morales
Just wait till they debate son
Brayden Lee
I'm not really talking about independents. It's possible to vaguely distrust a politician while disliking another more (think about how many liberals trashed Nader back in 2000; dislike of a Bush victory was stronger than support for a staunch progressive). In my mind, it's entirely possible voters will swing Hillary with the economy in mind. Trump is not really an economic conservative and that may hurt him among a sizeable portion of traditional Republicans.
What policies do you think workers will support? Protectionist trade policies? The reason I mention crime was because it was really a huge theme of the entire convention. They even dedicated an entire day to it, "Make America Safe Again". There wasn't all that much discussion regarding how Trump will help business or working families, besides the usual stopping Mexicans from taking jobs, etc.
Wyatt Cook
Trump will dodge a bullet if he refuses to debate. He probably will, considering that he has everything to lose if he chooses to actually debate Hillary.
Plus, refusing to debate will do nearly nothing to harm him politically. It was the exact same situation when he walked out on the debate he was poised to have with Sanders. His supporters will likely just take a primetime presidential debate refusal as him not wanting to waste time reasoning with "Crooked Hillary".
Jacob Hill
Tell me americans, what's the choice of bernies fan ? Vote for Clinton ? After the big leak ?
Nathan Cook
Polls mean nothing, the polling agency admitted that they changed their methodology when they saw Trump leading.
Michael Hall
Nice try, shill. This picture blows your entire argument the fuck out. Without the Reuters poll that excludes Stein and Johnson for some reason, trump is still winning. I just corrected your fucking record, bitch.
Noah Gonzalez
Its known that Hillary was considering not debating.
She cant debate worth shit and barely survived an old socialist.
Easton Collins
I voted for Bernie in the primary. Don't know if most other Bernouts have done this, but I switched to supporting Hill on day 1 of the dem convention
Owen Williams
Pic
Tyler Sanchez
Mormons voting Johnson is a meme. He is a pot smoking legalize drugs guy. Mormons will not vote for him.
Jason Hughes
It's called posting with your smartphone and pc at the same time.
Except that Trump hasn't spent even close to as much money as Hillary.
Sebastian Butler
Sauce?
Carter Brooks
Also, Hillary has a lot more to lose if she refuses to debate. She's a Dem insider. Trump, however, has already cucked the GOP and proven he can do pretty much anything he wants without consequence. He does have some pretty devoted supporters.
Jason Price
A lot will probably vote Clinton out of fear of Trump. About 10-15% will go Stein or Johnson, maybe Trump, although that's more difficult. When Trump speaks about Bernie, he's trying to capture some of those voters, but I'm not sure it'll pay off.
Support for independents tends to decline as the race gets closer, because people feel pressured towards a decision one way or the other. Even disregarding that, my larger point was that he can't maintain a lead, not that he's never had one.
Ryan Turner
He carried 63% of white voters... how many more of a demographic share do you realistically expect them to gain?
GOP is essentially at 'peak whiteness'.
Chase Evans
Your entire point just got blown the fuck out due to the fact that his lead is in fact maintained. Time for you to go back to headquarters and learn some new tactics you piece of shit pathetic fucking shill.
Adrian Peterson
>There wasn't all that much discussion regarding how Trump will help business or working families, besides the usual stopping Mexicans from taking jobs, etc.
What are you expecting, him to say he will pull random jobs out of his ass or that he will double the minimum wage?
Justin Bell
Sup Forums is trying to ignore this, but Trump has 4 more months of truly dumb shit to say.
They guy says something totally stupid just about every week.
He is also being sued for rape.
Connor Garcia
A lot of people from both parties watch Trump since a lot of what he says is either seen as populist or ridiculous depending on who you ask.
Hillary's nothing but a criminal cuck to her detractors, so she wouldn't be worth the attention either way.
Adrian Thompson
Dont you remember her camp saying they were considering not debating Trump?
Other way around. She has a lot to lose looking bad standing side by side with Trump full of high energy and testosterone while she looks like an old burnt out women whos worse at public speaking.
Tump has nothing to lose.
Eli Murphy
Hillary has 4 more months for skeletons to come out of the closet.
Colton Jenkins
remember that the white working class will split along gender lines to some extent.
so will wealthier republicans. "safety moms" for Hillary.
Kayden Parker
HONEST QUESTION FOR CLINTON SHILLS-- IF SHE CAN'T KEEP THE INFO OF HER TOP JEWS SAFE, IS YOUR INFO SAFE? I know how it works, from the little offices in Brooklyn and DC-- or maybe you are the ones who were organized on Skype- but you do realize, for you to get paid, your name is written down somewhere, right?
Go to antiwar.com and read about the coup in Turkey and the Purge of traitors going on right now (no MSMis covering it). IF you are shilling for money, whatever happens, you know the US is going to emerge fractioned down the middle, and that if Trump loses, people (the people with the guns) ate going to be looking for traitors and why he lost, correct?
I'd be careful about cashing my "Correct The Record" checks, when in Turkey (A NATO country) they are putting people in front of firing squads as I type.
Isaiah Price
Hillary will do a lot better among white women than Obama did
Jason Lee
Why are people responding to a shill thread and not saging it? This whole thread is one piece of shit posting polls that don't include Johnson and Stein, and parroting generic CNN tier garbage about Trump. This is obviously correct the record.
Andrew Reyes
>He is also being sued for rape.
Who talk again about that ? It's a hoax
Grayson Sanchez
>he can do pretty much anything he wants without consequence
Except win the general election.....
His post convention 'poll 'bounce' was minimal, and his campaign war chest is being dwarfed by Clinton.
Jace Evans
I don't get paid, I troll Sup Forumsacks for fun
James Miller
>GOP is essentially at 'peak whiteness'. Dems carried 97% of nigger vote for Obongo--what would you say is PEAK NIGGERNESS?
