You guys know hes completely against freedom of speech and the press right?

You guys know hes completely against freedom of speech and the press right?

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Yes

(you)

100%

no

Nobody cares about the 1st amendment.

It'd be great if Trump ends the hardcore shilling Clinton News Network in his first 100 days

You like that about him?

Sup Forums will slam Erdogan all day long on his crackdown on criticism yet doesn't have shit to say when Trump does literally the same thing.

So am I, at least the liberals idea of Freedom of Speech.

The only ones trying to stifle speech is his opposition.

>the press
They've been in the pocket of a handful of billionaires for years now. A few powerful men and women shouldn't decide what everyday Americans see and hear.

>freedom of speech
It's the liberals trying to restrict Trump and his followers from having the freedom to speak

>If I don't like it ban it

Literally no difference between you and SJW's except your right wing

>implying we have a free press

Ban their free speech because they don't like my speech

Yeah makes sense

fucking this

Trump frees speech every second his opens his mouth and pisses people off

he's literally not though

You know you are just as guilty as she is right? Kill yourself traitor.

>mfw you realize you will have to account for the blood on your hands

>Implying you don't have the first ammendment

The press doesnt use it anyway. They're bought off.

May as well shut them down

Because we all know that the press ought to be allowed to post anything and anything with 0 potential consequences

National secrets and defence plans? Here you go guys, open for view!

Someone illegally made a porno of you?
Gg no re

You annoyed me with your anti-SJW rhetoric?
Here, let me create a false rape case against you, broadcast it across the planet with details to locate you, and then not offer a retraction after the world finds out that I lied. Too bad that you lost your home, children, job and more. You offended a journalist's opinion.

When your rights infringe on mine, you forfeit yours. Mendacious lies and propaganda meant to hurt a person shouldn't be allowed to air on a national media outlet like Fox, CNN or MSNBC. When you abuse your protections to exercise power over another, you have crossed the line.

edition.cnn.com/2013/02/06/showbiz/trump-bill-maher-suit/
except no

I know this is b8, but I have to be completely open and honest and admit that I'm losing my belief in freedom of the press, simply because I firmly believe that it's becoming monopolized with too few companies in the media owning too many assets. With such little true competition available, fewer people have a say in the public dialogue and I'm not sure that's, overall, healthy for a nation. Much like having a state run propaganda network is terrible, having a corporate run propaganda network, that is obviously heavily influenced by the state, is not much better.

Good thing there are slander and liable laws then

cnn isnt news

What's your alternative to a free press?

>Implying the first amendment stops our media from being a psyop

youtube.com/watch?v=nYz2HEauLic

You know, there was a time when Trump calling for libel laws would have been the single thing that made me refuse to vote for him.

Not after I've seen just how lacking in integrity our media is. Now I want to see all the major media companies destroyed.

>Freedom of the (((press)))

At least now thanks to the internet we know this kind of shit is going on and can discuss it here. I doubt this kind of shit wasn't also going on to the same degree back in the day and I doubt it's changing at all for the better or worse.

>You guys know hes completely against freedom of speech and the press right?
And nothing of value was lost

Trump has only suggested expanding libel and slander laws which are civil not criminal because our controlled media lies constantly. He's never said he wants to ban free speech which is media slander. And when facebook and twitter and google can censor my opinions, sjws can get me fired from my job and the democrats are wanting to criminalize "hate speech" I effectively don't have first amendment rights.

libel isn't free speech

fuck the (((media)))

Say what you want about how awful the MSM is but what western democracies have right now unquestionably better than the media in places like North Korea

Normally I'd have a problem with that, but it's become increasingly clear the the "press" is already bought and paid for, so fuck it

Yep, just like I am.

He tried to sue Bill Maher over a joke that's Erdogan tier m8

I'd just like to see many of the corporate media juggernauts broken up to allow for more competition in the media, as I do not believe the media acts in a fair way towards specific topics, and I would also bet that most people believe the media is bias in one way or another. I think many people with a similar mindset are hoping that the internet is able to put a huge dent in the MSM's armor as time goes on, so, realistically, waiting it out may bring about the drastic change that is needed, however with net neutrality being a vital issue nowadays, it's highly possible that nothing is changed if people give up an inch on the subject of net neutrality.

Of course, it's always been going on. And not just within modern times, either. There's definitely a long history of select individuals having a large role defining what the public discourse focuses on and what it covers.

People like you are going to fuck the last bastion of freedom on earth

They don't care they need jidf shekels and greater israel and mammon and megiddo

At least he talks to the press

Australia, not worth a nuns nasty.

Well, he made a deal, and he needs to pay up.

At least he talks to the press he likes*

>Literally no difference
>states a difference
Time to leave, dude.

It's "libel," you shitposting roo. And that's all Trump wants to expand. He's not fucking with the 1st.

>Trump has only suggested expanding libel and slander laws
Enjoy being sued over your Sup Forums posts.
He might even shut down Sup Forums completely.

or the 2nd.

Breaking up the press is no big deal trust me in Australia the media monopoly is even worse. Your playing yourself though if you think Trump will actually do anything of that kind, he'll just restrict media freedom like he's done his entire campaign.

A joke that our controlled media would never make about any democrat. President Trump would never be able to pass a bill making that illegal. At best he would make it easier to bring a suit like in Florida. No one says they don't have free speech in florida because of their libel laws. Failing that, he could go after the media on antitrust violations. The media needs to broken up bad and $Hillary would never do that.

Yes.

Sage.

>Implying Hillary wouldn't do that

A bodgy ace with kangaroos loose
in the top paddock

>FUCK OFF CORRECT THE RECORD
>FUCK OFF SHILLS
>THERE WILL BE NO MORE POSTS AFTER THIS REPLY
REPOST THIS TO EVERY SHILL THREAD AND NOTHING MORE.

Vote third party at the very least clearly Trump doesn't give a shit about your most important freedoms

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So when libs and SJWs complain about stuff and demand it to be deleted it is CENSORSHIP I'M BEING SILENCED.
When it's Trump suggesting it then it's okay? You guys are hilarious.

No ones saying $hillary's better she proved she despises freedom of expression when she went against the right to burn the flag

>he'll just restrict media freedom like he's done his entire campaign.
There you go with that "free media" meme again. How has he restricted media freedom? You do realize he's just a candidate and doesn't have any presidential powers yet right?

So is Hillary. She in fact own the press, as the leaks have proven. She also is in bed with jewbook, the #1 freedom of speech persecutor.

Banned Washington post from his press conferences?

You guys clearly don't give a shit about the truth whatsoever. Do a bit more research on who you plan voting for.

nice try CTR but I'm not a retard. The president will either be Trump or Hillary and I definitely won't help her get elected.

Hahaha... Like the left doesn't censor the shit out of people?

wow wait to rephrase the OP and lay out the implications, without actually contributing anything new to the thread other than a faggy upvote

Erdogan is cool now, he's joining the good side soon.

Why else would Putin kiss Trump?

The same Washington Post helping to "spin the narrative" for the DNC?

I wouldn't let some knuckle dragger "reporters" in if they aren't going to report what I said either.

>Except when we do it it's good!!!!

Alright that's fine as long as your happy with admitting the fact you hate freedom

>what western democracies have right now unquestionably better than the media in places like North Korea

I'm not even sure about that. At least the media in those countries isn't as all pervasive nor as sophisticated.

A major problem with our media is they are the worlds most advanced propagandists in all of human history. The majority of people can't even contemplate the fact that the entire MSM is just a psyop. Trying to convince them as such is incredibly difficult, even with clear objective evidence. They have near total control over the public consciousness and shape perceptions at a fundamental level.

They were complicit in false flag attacks like 9/11. They are complicit in distorting the truth about all of our foreign policy. They are highly immoral and actively sway people to be less than their potential. I can say without a doubt we would be better off if they didn't exist at all.

Freedom of the press doesn't extend to private property.

Well, Obama hasn't shut down Sup Forums. Why would Hillary do it?
Trump might do it. There's nothing but libel and slander here. Most people who voted for him will approve of it too.

>Breaking up the press is no big deal trust me in Australia the media monopoly is even worse.
The point is that he's bringing up an issue that people are concerned about. People don't want the situation to get any worse, because ignoring the subject essentially enables the cancer to worsen. Thankfully, now even the average person is seeing just how bad the media truly is. Right-leaning millennials discovered this in the previous election with the media's treatment of Ron Paul, and left-leaning millennials are discovering it during this election with the media's treatment of Bernie Sanders. Now, because the issue is being publicized greatly because of Trump, even normies are now slowly realizing that the problem is getting worse.

I can't speak about what it's like in Australia because I don't live there nor do I follow your politics, but if it is truly worse, I am sure that like-minded people who are concerned with too few people directing too many minds wish they would have spoke up before the situation down under got to the point where you claim it now is.

Twitter doesn't believe in freedom of speech as a principle when they ban conservative pundits

Trump doesn't believe in freedom of press as a principle when he bans reporters from his press conferences

meanwhile Hillary banned everyone from her press conferences. She hasn't held one in almost a year.

>Freedom of the press overrides freedom of association.

Wrong. Freedom of the press means they can report what they want, not that they are allowed access whenever they want.

How about the fact that Hillary hasn't had a press conference in 8 months?

Both are within their rights to do so.

I don't understand the point of your statement.

All this tells me is that Trump doesn't fuck around. And that he was serious about giving that money away if Obama took him up on his offer, Maher said something, and Trump took the opportunity to embarrass him and prove his point.
Oh, wait. Australia.

>Trump doesn't believe in freedom of press as a principle when he bans reporters from his press conferences
false they aren't banned from reporting on Trump. they can still say whatever they want just like Trump has the right to let whoever he wants into his events.

What gives you the idea that Trump has any interest in breaking up the MSM though? If anything his campaign has taught us that he prefers the path of restricting the freedom of dissenting sources.

Mommy told me not to respond to shills, but....

Public trust of the press:

>The majority of people can't even contemplate the fact that the entire MSM is just a psyop
What makes this fact even more frightening is that the people who are willing to acknowledge this fact are, generally, unable to admit that the FBI has a documented history of controlled opposition as well, which, of course, hints towards the possibility that certain popular "alternate" news agencies could very well be a controlled narrative as well.

>They are complicit in distorting the truth about all of our foreign policy.
I feel as if I just made a post about the Taliban and the FSA in another thread, and I really don't feel like repeating it, But, without touching any of the conspiracy bits of your post, I'd like to focus solely on this line, because one has to wonder, at what point does blowback become the intended consequence?

If anything, his campaign has taught us that he actually grants open, revealing interviews with actual "dissenting" sources. What this means, especially with the implications I've made in this post, is up for you to interpret.

Milo Yiannopoulos can say whatever he wants as long as he doesn't say it on twitter. Twitter has the right to let whoever they want on their service. But they still believe in freedom of speech as a principle right?

Washington Post?

Post proof or GTFO

When the press is lying to people that he's literally hitler, and there have been multiple assassination attempts as a result of that... then that's an incitement to violence and is no longer protected free speech.

I'm totally with him on this point.

npr.org/2016/06/13/481923166/donald-trump-bans-washington-post-from-campaign-events

finance.yahoo.com/news/7-incredible-trump-lawsuits-including-the-time-he-sued-himself-124327638.html

edition.cnn.com/2013/02/06/showbiz/trump-bill-maher-suit/

Uh, that's an ableist micro-aggression, shitlord. $0.02 have been REMOVED from your account!

I'm hoping he fucks up Washington, so I don't really care what he believes.

I was referring to his interview with Alex Jones on Infowars. Washington Post is certainly not a "dissenting" source, in regards to the public narrative.

>I feel as if I just made a post about the Taliban and the FSA in another thread

Link it?

That's fine as long as you are fine openly admitting that you hate individual freedom

>ban
>revoking press credentials

Completely dishonest headline... WP journos are still free to attend and report at his events... they just don't get favoured status above any other rally attendee.

Sage

the phone company can't ban someone from saying things on the phone because they're a considered a public utility. Twitter and facebook are so big they essentially operate the same as a phone company. A press conference is a private event. A private event which Hillary hasn't had in over a year yet you don't seem too concerned about her treatment of the press.

Nope... the 1st amendment does not protect incitements to violence.

The frequently heard example is that you can be censured or punished for yelling "fire!" in a crowded place... because you are endangering people's safety.

Yes, just not as bad as shillary

You're conflating freedom of the press with freedom of association. Stop it.

Trump has done nothing to limit reporters ability to write articles. All he has done is refuse to let liars into his audience. There is a distinct difference, you rotten cunt.

>individual freedom to incite and attempt assassination
no

Are you implying the press has freedom of press now?

>Alex jones interview
>Revealing

The whole fucking interview was just Alex choking on Trumps dicks giving possibly one of the most softball interviews in the entire history of media. If he believes in freedom of the press he should let sources that will confront his narrative into his press conferences. The public narrative is completely irrelevant

>Best Korea news not all pervasive
>Literally go to death camps for not watching the news at a certain time

Fuck off liberal cunt