So, what's your excuse?

So, what's your excuse?

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Not going to die for Murad and his harem while my house is used as a home or refugees if I die.

Our countries are shitty unlike Finland. Maybe if I my government would spend money on giving me healthcare and education instead of on whatever rich assholes want I would give a damn.

I would fight for it only because I hate you guys.

I wouldn't die for some asshole politicians. We have lots of those too. I would die for my country. I live here. This is my land and no-one is going to take it from me.

Makes sense. Bulgarians don't want to fight Russians, as they're seen as one of our main enemies. So "willing to fight for your country" here means fighting Russia.

Turkey is in NATO like us, so they aren't an immediate threat.

Come on Russia, you don't really mean that.
I love Russians. I hate Russian government.
You guys are insane in a funny way.

I think "fight for your country" here either means to defend when attacked or agree with you country's military politics.

Yeah but still. If there is war it would be similar to ww2 where germs didn't consider us human and have done atrocious things because of it. Humanism always ends when the government needs it

>defend when attacked
by Russia

>agree with your country's military politics
pro-NATO and against Russia

>Fight for the current government (against European countries and Russia?) and win
>Sucked dry by Muhammad, his 12 cousins all having 5 kids

>Fight against Muhammad, his 12 cousins all having 5 kids
>Sucked dry by Arnaud, Janusz, Rodrigo and Papadopoulous because """at least they are European and white"""

Bah, no thanks.

i think you mean 'portrayed' not 'seen'

Of course. Still most German soldiers were just that, soldiers. They weren't nazis. They just did what their country wanted them to do.

Yeah that's a better word for it. Russians are "supposed" to be the enemy because of the NATO - non-NATO divide.

What if this was an ethnic cleansing war?

no conscription, leftist selfhating is popular

True. Has no sympathy for them tho

No way I'm going to die for my shitty country
Good thing I lost my military ID, so in case of war I will probably just get arrested and put in prison, then the invaders will notice I'm a political prisoner and hopefully release me

Surrender then It's better for anyone
Germany was a mistake

And then you lose your country. The aggressor is almost always the worse country you want to live in.

I have no sympathy for them*. Idk why I wrote it like that
You willingly made your country a heaven for refugees and created an economic union that couldn't properly manage money. It's your fault

Why? My grandad fought against you during winter war. He was fucked up for the rest of his life because of your grenade shrapnels. I stll have sympathy for all the soldiers from you side.

>This map
How come ISIS hasn't steamrolled Western Europe yet?

How is this any different with the current situation?
It is already shit. The faster it dies and takes other economies down with it, the better.

You might want a conscription again. If ruskies want us they will. Altho it will become a bloody guerrilla war.

Last time it went fucking horribly. Would never support my nation in an offensive war.
ISIS doesn't even have a single town left but nice try. Europeans don't want to fight other Europeans or don't want to die for Jews like you Americans do

French, Portuguese /Galician canadian here.

Id fight for Franco-Iberia and canada

>European soyboys don't want to defend their countries but whine when the US threatens to cut NATO funding

hmm...

meme map. The closer to the threat (real ir percieved) the higher the percentage. Throw any person out of his/her comfyness and they'll exhibit """""" unexpected""""" levels of barbarism.

In the West, "fight for your country" is the codeword for "go die 10,000 km from home to protect the oil kings, while the high bourgeoisie has fun & more immigrants come to replace you"

It's pure cuckery and isn't related to defending your sacred homeland and stuff

>created an economic union that couldn't properly manage money
Oh yes. I must have missed the part that 1) "we" had any say in creating the EEC and 2) "we" had a worse time with the D-Mark rather then the current Euro going always downstream into Italian and Greek banks. Thanks Ivan.

He's blinded by (((patriotism))).

They have to pass through the Balkans, Eastern Europe and TÜRKEY first

It's a different thing. Winter war is a different thing. It wasn't an ideological war. I am talking about soldiers attitude towards the war. The people who have think they are ubermensch do absolutely horrible things here during the war. Nobody will fight just for land nowadays

>Fight against Muhammad
>Sucked dry by Arnaud, Janusz, Rodrigo and Papadopoulous

In which alternate timeline do you live and how to rejoin it

They didn't and they haven't.

that's what I said

You have always being a huge part of eu. You could do what ever you want. Now it's impossible to change something because nobody gave a shit about greece case from the beginning. I don't believe your country was pushed into using euro. You were the first country it was beneficial for

t. literally has a president who is currently shilling so hard for one unified denbts-sharing-agreement between all Euro-countries

What I meant is that they aren't an army. Their ideology still has spread everywhere in Europe.

Well you just did with Ukraine.

Actually we just reactivated conscription.

>Greek banks
yes yes completely ignore your failing banks It's always those pesky southerners
the levels of hypocrisy in eubots is astounding

When's the last time an American died for America (not the weapon manufactories )

>I don't believe your country was pushed into using euro.
Aha. And what was the condition of the re-unification again? And how was the country doing before the introduction of Euro and how is it now? Cunt.
>You could do what ever you want.
Yeah "we" had the privilege of being constantly barraged by other countries wrong-doings with the lazy argument of "Nazi". "Us" being "conservative" isn't enough, but being "liberal" isn't also enough for you.

Nah. The reason behind it was to punish ukraine for ditching us and restore "justice" i.e. don't let putin's rating to drop because of the revolution. He thinks americans did it

It's interesting how this statistic correlates with proximity to Russia. But I'm sure it's completely accidental )))

Really?
That's good. We can't be a buffer zone for you forever even if we try.
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>as they're seen as one of our main enemies.
I had no idea that's how Bulgarians see Russia considering how much influence you had on their country. What's the main source of this animosity, communism or something else?

It's not nearly as universal as it used to be, but at least it ensures that we can fill all vacancies.

The majority of Bulgarians don't see Russia as a threat or an enemy, but that's the political agenda that's being pushed because of our involvement in the EU and NATO.

>He thinks americans did it
Nah, Putin is much smarter than that. He know's what he's doing.

Um no sweetie. This "clean Wehrmacht" myth needs to END

Interesting.

How is that interesting? We have our camp, the Russians have theirs.

That sounds awfully a lot like we see Russia, minus NATO ofc.
We just want to be neutral. Is that too much to ask?

You are talking shit about it rn but you economics was booming because of it during early 00th until the crisis.
It's true. It's the second revolution that overthrew our supporters in ukranian government.
You are overestimating people in power

Putin is buddies with pretty much every richest Russian there is. He has pretty much unlimited power inside your country.

You can't be neutral when you have savages as neighbors. They just see the neutrality as weakness. You either let them turn your country to shit (which is p. much what the commies did), or you take a solid stance against them. But as a small country you can't do much, so you have to rely on a big military alliance to keep you safe.

Isn't it so fucking sad that you have to stay on your toes just because you have a neighbor that's living in the stone age?

Richest buddies are his friends from the begging whom he made rich. Almost all oligarchs from 90th have business in russia but don't have direct access to the body as we call it

mate if shit goes down you can’t be neutral. you’re not switzerland ffs

Maybe if your government wasn't living in the 19th century, we wouldn't need to be not neutral.

So you would be ok with your troops just rolling through my country?

>he blames it on russia again, for the 100th time already
how original!
all i’m saying is that you’re not in a positing to choose other than take sides. speaking hypothetically, you either let us go through or we make you let us go through. wouldn’t you do the same if russia was finland and vice versa? ofc you would, you wouldn’t go around us. Think about it.
gotta go sleep, it’s 5 am already. good night and merry christmas

You are neutral. Finland in russian news is a non existing topic. I understand why you are afraid we will attack but it's literally the last place on earth that we will attack.
t. We don't live in 19th. It's more about interpersonal relationship and honesty. We had zero problems with bush because he was an honest man and never backstabbed us

Hey retarded slavescum. You said same about Crimea and we know how that turned out.
You don't decide shit if Putin wills it army will attack Finland.
Finland need to join NATO ASAP, i'm not sure why they even hesitate after Crimea.

How did it turn out?

Not gonna fight for gulag.

I just want to kill people desu

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We don't need NATO for shit.

Dunno about Finland but here conscription doesn't make you more patriotic on contrary.

Nor does it here.

>He thinks americans did it

Don't play dumb It was occupied by Russia, i'm not even talking About DNR and LNR.

I don't really give a fuck

But did I say about Crimea?
Yeah, and after that won't even give them money or weapon