I'm a German Turk born and raised here who would like to return to his homeland. Problem is that I've searched for many programs by the turkish goverment for turkish immigrants to ease the transition into Turkey but sadly I was incapable of finding any. I've recently finished school here (Gymnasium with Abitur, one of the highest levels of education) and I'm currently studying, however I'd like to stop studying and pick up office work in Turkey.
My question is, what is both the housing, finance and workmarket in Turkey like? What city should I live in? What kind of Jobs are available to me?
stay in G*rmany and impregnate as many wh*Toid grills as you can, my BLACK bro. May KARA BOGA bless you.
Brayden Morales
I think that's wonderful, Achmed. You should bring your entire family to Turkey! And all your Turkish friends too! Bring all the Turkish-Germans back to Turkei! :)
Liam Perez
Burgers stay away
Benjamin Martin
>tfw no cute high-test turkish alpha bf to love you for the rest of your life
why even live
Gavin Rodriguez
I knew I shouldn't have posted this on Sup Forums nothing but stale old meme replies and no actual help or advice whatsoever
Nathan Wilson
I have a simple question: Are you fucking retarded?
The only "people" returning from Germany are braindead alamancıs who studied in a Hauptschule and can't find any job other than working in a construction or fixing cars.
Forçan'ı oltaya düşürmek için uydurduysan göz kırp. Çünkü gerçek olduğuna inanmakta zorluk çekiyorum.
Luis King
Yeah.. user posting this on Sup Forums was doomed to fail.
But /adv/ might be able to help if you want to stick with Sup Forums. But i'm sure there are some forums that specialize this, or you could simply contact the Turkish embassy.
Ethan Morales
Ok, how about a serious question. What do you think of Sawsan Chebli? She is Germany's best example of an integrated Muslim. She is even a state secretary or something in the Berlin SPD, but Germany will still not give her citizenship.
Anthony Lee
Gercektir ben Almanyada yasamak istemiyorum. Burdaki insanlari sevmiyorum bide burdaki almancilardan hele ne kadar nefret ediyorum bir görsen. Anlasamiyorum insanlarlar ve hayatimi benim ülkede yasamak istiyorum
Isaiah Nguyen
>but Germany will still not give her citizenship.
You can't be a public officer without having citizenship.
Jordan Russell
Overthrow Erdogan The Georgian and become new Atatürk
Jonathan Cook
Yeah go back to your hellhole you mahometan!
*spits in your general direction*
Christian Ross
The turkish embassy in Cologne is nothing but Erdogan supporters. They are rude as fuck and almost arrested me because I refused to go to the army.
I don't give a shit about Germany or its politics
Caleb Sullivan
>I'm a German Turk born and raised here who would like to return to his homeland. Ausgezeichnet! Now take all the other Turks with you. I am sure the the Turkish government would love bilingual, educated people returning home.
Gabriel Price
You could try the "Rückkehrberatung" in any major german city, good for you to go back
Luis Taylor
She doesn't have "real" citizenship. She has ... I forgot what it's called, it's like the "citizenship" that we give our Mexican Dreamers. It means that she can have a job, and renew the "temporary citizenship" every few years, and the government ignores it.
Let me think about it
Camden Ortiz
Friendly reminder that 20% of all Turks in Germany are on permanent welfare.
Asher Long
Turks in Turkey see expat Turks as village scum who betrayed their homeland.
Juan Miller
I remember. She has "Kettenduldungen"
Joshua Clark
DACA is cancelled baby!
Brandon Powell
Caan these retarded American mutt german larpers fuck off? I don't need dumb retarded comments in my thread
Where exactly can I get this Rückkehrberatung? In jedem Bürgerhaus oder muss ich dafür beim Ausländeramt antanzen?
James Campbell
Not really you fucking idiot
Brayden Rodriguez
Yes, I heard. I wonder how our Mexican-Americans will cope
Nathaniel Turner
But kettenduldungen solely applies to immigrants, at least that's the impression I received.
I'll admit, German citizenship laws are fucking stupid. Countries without Jus soli are absurdly confusing
Brayden Russell
Again, you cannot enter public service without holding German citizenship.
Adam Sanders
Unlike the USA, Germany doesn't give you citizenship just because you are born in their country. Her parents (immigrants) did not have citizenship, so she doesn't get citizenship at birth. She has to earn her citizenship like any other immigrant
Levi Howard
Yes you are you filthy expat. You are regarded as a Turk in Germany and as a German in Turkey.
Nicholas Anderson
Neee, gibts bei jedem größeren Wohlfahrtsträger, also Caritas, AWO usw.
Mason Moore
Germany can't give her citizenship because Turks are not allowed to have dual citizenships according to Turkish law and abandoning your Turkish citizenship in favor to another is considered a sacrilege among Turks.
Cameron Powell
I see, she only had Kettenduldung for the first 15 years of her life. Now she has real citizenship
Maybe the normal retarded almancis that live here. I spend half of my life in Turkey.
Caritas? Ich dachte dass wäre diese komische Pflege für Alte Menschen Organization, als ob die Dienste für Migranten die in ihr Land zurückkehren wollen anbieten
Thomas Baker
wow ikibey you sound smart in this post
Logan Baker
She is from Palestine though. She does have a shady immigration history, and doesn't like to talk very much about it.
> Sawsan Chebli wurde als 12tes Kind von ihm in Deutschland geboren > Sawsan Chebli was the 12th child born to her father in Germany
> Die Familie war bis 1993 nur geduldet, sprich keine Arbeitsgenehmigung, alle drei Wochen Ausländerpolizei, alle drei Wochen Zittern, ob man bleiben darf. > The family was only tolerated until 1993, no work permit, every three weeks meeting with Foreigners Police, trembling every three weeks over whether they could stay.
> Kettenduldung nennt sich das – Gift für die Integration. > It is called "Kettenduldung" - poison for integration.
Jackson Peterson
>Gymnasium with Abitur Ist kein Berufsabschluss, auf dem Arbeitsmarkt NIX wert. >I'm currently studying, however I'd like to stop studying and pick up office work in Turkey Ganz schlechte Idee, mach den Abschluss zu Ende
t. kein Türke
Matthew Foster
TURKS ARE BETTER THAN OTHER HUMANS
Liam Russell
So you live in Germany, you're even fucking sudying, you probably know the language aswell, and yet you want to go to Turkey, which is turing into dictatorship (don't even have to mention that it's much poorer than Germany)? I mean, yeah it would be nice to go on holidays to your fatherland But to move out and live there? It's like some foreign-born Pole would like to go to Poland and live here, but twice as strange
Mason Bell
>tfw you will never have a cute high-test alpha turkish bf put a leash on you and make you drink his pee out of a dog bowl
why even live life is suffering
Liam Anderson
Some Polish-Americans return to fatherland Poland.
YES, LEAVE... GO BACK TO YOUR COCKROACH COUNTRY... FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
Alexander Ortiz
Auf dem deutschen Arbeitsmarkt nichts Wert, in der Türkei sicherlich schon oder etwa nicht?
Und bis zum Abschluss halte ich es nicht aus, ich will einfach nicht mehr in diesem Land leben.
I've never felt at home here. I've never enjoyed it. I always feel like a stranger whenever I go outside. I'm sick and tired of this feeling. All I want is to feel comfortable in the country I live in, which I've only ever felt in Turkey. Look, money is not the issue for me here, its happiness
Elijah Wood
Halt die Schnauze du Schwuchtel
Jaxson Taylor
come to Russia, as a KARA TÜRÜK you'll fuck tons of local natashas, as a WEISSE DEUTSCH you'll find job as a supervisor at some G*rm factory
Mason Perez
>G*rm
what did it mean by this
Christian Miller
>ich will einfach nicht mehr in diesem Land leben.
Was verdient denn eine ungelernte Arbeitskraft in der Türkei? Nicht mehr als nen paar hundert Euro
Bentley Sanchez
>I've never felt at home here.
You have no home nowhere, accept this.
Carter Sullivan
Actually my cousin who is from Turkey has opened up his kebab shop in Russia and is somehow making a shitton of money sending me pictures with how he is chilling with different slav girls
Levi Hall
this is why Yakub(the evil but genius scientist) made wh*Toid race this shittest creature to make them serve BLACK
Anthony Gomez
>to make them serve BLACK
Turks aren't black, they are white.
Ethan Brown
t. urk
Samuel Rodriguez
>Was verdient denn eine ungelernte Arbeitskraft in der Türkei? Wie gesagt, ich habe absolut keine Ahnung. Deswegen habe ich ja diesen Thread erstellt um ein paar Antworten zu bekommen. Wie du sehen kannst habe ich ausser Meme replies und rassistichen Aüßerungen nichts bekommen.
Joseph Kelly
I'm not a Turk. You're a Turk.
Jason Jones
This is somewhat of a nightmare of mine. But Turks in Turkey accept me somewhat. And I feel more at home there than here.
Angel Lewis
Try going to USA, they say just anyone fits there.
Nicholas Powell
it seems I have to your housenigger contaminated brain with superior soy sauce
Bentley Morgan
no no no, USA is bad place for German-Turks. Maybe he should go to Russia, and join his cousin at the kebab shop
Chase Campbell
Soy sauce is white too.
Ethan Evans
I have no interest in the shithole known as the US, I'd rather go to a dictatorial african country than even set a foot in that gigantic pile of steaming garbage country
Nolan Perry
I don't know, all Turks I met were nice intelligent people. But maybe because I met only some refined Istanbul types, not backward Anatolian farmers.
Eli Johnson
meant replying to
Evan Cruz
oh no that sucks
Xavier Collins
Are you Japanese? I can't think you are Japanese. Aren't you ashamed of yourself?
>sending me pictures with how he is chilling with different slav girls nice, post some
Benjamin Sullivan
THANK YOU finally someone that isn't shitposting but actually helping out
This is just what I was looking for
Dylan Rivera
first i think you'll serve to the army if you planned to live there or pay for doing a little time. For work it depend on your diplome but you should try teaching german to student because normal jobs are way less pay than in germany and you make more hours, not woth it. Keep your german nationality in any case
Eli Hughes
is it true that turks in germany attend erdomeme rallies waving turkish flags and being super patriotic?
Easton Hernandez
I don't have the German nationality, and I already paid the fee for the mandatory military service
Christopher Fisher
This summer, they also raided and damaged Turkish shops who didn't support Erdogan.
Eli Baker
Yes and it is one of the many reasons I want to leave this country. Almanci turks make me fucking cringe. They know absolutely nothing about turkish history, culture or norms yet they proudly wave the flag of a country they visit maybe once every 2 years
Jaxson Wood
>I don't have the German nationality, why ? what is your nationality then ? try for some time like 6 month in turkey and figure it out, i don't think this board will be very helpful
John Ross
Turkish only
Hudson Cox
your born and live in germany and don't have the nationality ? how come ?
turcs are nationalist on steroid
Tyler Sullivan
Both of my parents were born in Turkey and only had Turkish passports. The law in which every Child, regardless of their parents nationality, will receive the German Pass was introduced in 2000 and only applies for children born after that
Austin Edwards
also if a child is born to turkish parents in germany, theparents can decide whether the child will become a german citizen or just a turkish citizen. I find this insane, personally. Creating a whole new generation of literal foreigners in your country. They'll speak German, be educated in Germany, probably find work here but they'll never be German citizens unless they actively go and achieve it later.
Jonathan Lee
What's so wrong about that? I think a person should chose if his loyalty is with Germany or with Turkey
Jaxson Cook
if you are born in a country you should adopt that country's citizenship. This law is pretty much creating two societies at the same time. How can you expect two communities to come together when one can voluntarily choose to take the citizenship of their parents' despite never having lived there themselves. It is a very easy way to drive a wedge between people. If turks are sad that they don't feel German, perhaps they should have actually taken citizenship instead of pity mongering with their turkish passport
Zachary Mitchell
I was thinking about working in the tourism sector or work for a big international company. I speak 3 Languages so I guess I can put these skills to use right?
And by the way where are all of the turkish posters here?
Kevin Cook
What do you want German lawgivers to do about it? They can't exactly forbid Turkey from granting citizenship to Turkish people living in Germany
Easton Sanchez
> muh parallelgesellschaft
Jackson King
I'm saying that they are not Turkish is they are born in Germany despite having turkish parents. Just like we take the piss out of mutts who claim to be Irish-american etc, imagine how much banter they'd get if the were born in america to immigrant parents and the yanks allowed them to receive irish/italian/british citizenship instead of american just because of their parents?
Look, these people that are born in Germany are able to receive help from the system, an education, achieve a good standard of living in a peaceful nation but they stick their middle finger up and say " we aren't germans". Sorry but if you are born here and take advantage of the upbringing available here, you should be a citizen. It should never be a question of choosing. If you're born in Turkey you're a turk, if you're born in Germany you're a German with immigrant parents. How can OP make a thread saying he doesn't feel welcome here or that he doesn't enjoy himself here or feel part of anything when he most likely doesn't even have a German passport? Perhaps if he made the effort to become a German instead of getting an education here and then rolling around in self pity, he'd feel far better about himself.
Ethan Rodriguez
lol. And why you want to go to Turkey if they want to arrest you?
Andrew Hall
good post
Parker Allen
Refusing mandatory military service is seen as high treason and can lead up to jailtime for 10 years in Turkey. The Situation was cleared after I told them I was still attending a school and that I can't join the military as of now
Brayden Clark
>public speech >Kyrgyzstan bununla ne demek istedi
Ian Reyes
>programs by the turkish goverment for turkish immigrants to ease the transition into Turkey but sadly I was incapable of
lmao you might have stayed in Germany a bit too long
Lucas Morgan
To each his own. I understand your view point, but I do not feel German at all. I've had few German friends and most of the time I spend more time within my original culture rather than the German one. I just don't feel like I belong here. Everyone is rude, constantly on edge, and the almancis are pissing me the fuck off.
Owen Evans
So you you are planning to join army if you will repatriate? >imblying Your point? I'm asking why he wants to go to a place where he could be arrested
Lucas Cooper
Turkish state is using the Turkish diaspora in Germany as a mean to influence the German politics (this became obvious during the last election). That's why they are so willing to give citizenship to Turks living here, and they also create a lot of media aimed at Turks in Germany. Full assimilation of German-Turks is not within the interest of Turkish government. And quiet frankly, I don't see what Germany could do to fight that influence
Ethan Hill
I don't have to. You can pay a fee of 1000 euros (which I did) to not go at all.
Jace James
I see.
Hudson Jones
if you want to go to a Turkish country I recommend Azerbaijan
Robert Perry
Yeah only problem is that I speak zero Azeri and I also have generally no idea about its current political and economic affairs
Jaxson Sanchez
>but I do not feel German at all. I've had few German friends and most of the time I spend more time within my original culture rather than the German one. I just don't feel like I belong here
But do you not see that this is the point I'm making. You feel like this because you've been given the opportunity to live in a country and receive its benefits yet never adopt its citizenship or culture. Of course you dont feel like you belong here, you've never been told that you do and you probably never even tried because the turkish culture is so strong here that you don't need to lift a finger and bother with anything German.
I'm an immigrant, too btw. I agree with you that people here are exceptionally rude but m8 I've seen easily as many rude turks as I have rude Germans.
The self pity from you is, quite frankly, astounding. How about accepting that you were born and brought up in Germany and that you are a German. It does not mean that you have to let go of your turkish culture etc but it will go a long way to helping you feel more included. Sitting on this site and whining about how you want to go back to your near 3rd world tier country because the big nasty mean germans don't like you is laughable. For all that the Germans are rude, if you make an effort you will be included- I know this because I'm relatively new here. If you spend the time with them instead of thinking " i'm not one of them" you'd probably be a much happier person than you are now.
Liam Lee
> doesn't want to be German despite receiving German education > wants to be Turkish but doesn't want to do mandatory military service
dat entitlement
Bentley Flores
Azeri is really similar to Turkish, Kardes is Qardes for example it wouldn't be that much effort to be a resident I also want to move to a Turkish country with certificate and all but living here has more pros
Brody Davis
Christ you're worse than me and I bitch about Germany all the time.