JSA Storytime: Suicide Squad

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Okay let's finally get this fucking plot moving

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We got a plot summary and name for Millar's new movie pitch today

Pretty sweet first cover today. That fucking vandal that keeps shooting up the title tho

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Hello Storyteller.

Yes, let's hope something actually happens in this event for once.

I'm kind of glad Millar has graduated into writing mediocre science-fantasy comics with good artists instead of all that edgy shit from years ago.

>Writer Mark Millar and artist Greg Capullo have announced Reborn, the creator-owned project that the pair has been working on for several months.

>Reborn stars Bonnie Black, an 80-year-old woman who finds herself in a fantasy world after she dies. The official synopsis reads as follows:

>“It’s not Heaven. It’s not Hell. It’s as real and hard as where we live now, but filled with the most amazing fantasy landscapes, jaw-dropping creatures and a battle raging between good and evil. The people she loved in this world — her father and her childhood dog — but oddly, not her husband who had passed over 14 years before. So she sets out to find him. She realizes that she has been reborn as a 25 year-old woman with a sword in her hand and gun on her hip.”

>Reborn was created with an eye to transitioning the project to film, with Millar telling Deadline that “the idea is always to create the project and then find the right producer for it. We have an idea of who would be good for this one. It must be someone who will understand the story and is passionate about bringing our vision to the screen.”

>Millar didn't specify the producer who he and Capullo had in mind for Reborn's planned film adaptation.

>The Hollywood trade says that Reborn will be published by MillarWorld, but didn't specific if that meant on it's own or through previous publishing deals as MillarWorld has done in the past with Image Comics, Dark Horse, Avatar Press, or Marvel's Icon imprint.

>Reborn is scheduled to debut in October, and run for six issues.

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So I just realized; is this Tec relaunch the first ever genuinely ensemble Batfam book? Like, not an antho, but almost everyone in the book proper?

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So glad this actually happened

>is this Tec relaunch the first ever genuinely ensemble Batfam book?
outside of minis and crossovers, I believe so?

>>Writer Mark Millar and artist Greg Capullo have announced Reborn

Kek.

I... Uh... Inc was a different kind of ensemble. You might be right.

Speaking of Millar he also has a DC or Marvel project coming up

Gotham Knights is the first I'd say did that

ahahahahaha sorry poe ahahahahahahahahha

It was very expensive. Like, $9?

>I'll never see another Japanese Batman story with Lord Death Husbando
Wish they'd just outsource some manga right, get some kind of jump subscription shit going. Would there be a market? That boom has passed, but I'd love to see genuine mangaverse product.

You know what this means: the fandom watching is going to be goddamn amazing because every single detail is going to be pored over and christened OOC/not muh Tim/Cass/Steph/whatever, because Batfanon

I got mighty amused at Nick Spencer trying to argue "But it would have been $16 for all four issues separately!" The store is right that making it a #13 and not an Annual/Special was mean and cynical.

it was $9.99 for four issues of content

$10 bucks for one issue is fucking obscene, even if it's technically three issues

That's like the price of a 5-6 issue trade

Late 90s - pre Hush Batbooks featured anyone and everyone they could. Not that it was official or anything.

>You know what this means: the fandom watching is going to be goddamn amazing because every single detail is going to be pored over and christened OOC/not muh Tim/Cass/Steph/whatever, because Batfanon
I've ALREADY seen people whining over it because of this or that detail

also I bet a lot of Batfans are pissy that Jason and Damian and Dick aren't all in it too

Mozzy's Japan stuff was sooooooooooooooooooo dated. It was embarrassing.

wait, why did he call Eiling a Colonel, he's a General

Ah, okay. But it's been a while then, yes?

And there are the "My Tim Drake hasn't been seen in years" holdouts, bless their hearts. (I do know their pain, but...you know...)

Isn't most of his stuff dated? Working with older references is typically what he does. I don't think that changes my perspective; it would be fun to see current Japanese creators do work with classic superhero characters. Look at Horikoshi - dude would kill it on X-Men.

I already know it's going to be full of Not Muh thanks to Tynion's previous work on Eternal so I'm just going to ignore it.

>Batman Family from the 70s
>Gotham Knights from 00s
>Batman Inc sort of?
>Rebirth 'Tec

That's all I can think of

They kinda ruined him when they made him Batman Japan. That first arc from incorporated was brilliant.

Eiling was a colonel at the very start of Captain Atom. Poor editorial checking?

Spencer has gone full Marvel retard. There's no saving him.
>movie synergy is great
>Writing gimmick without any substance is necessary
>Higher prices of Comics are justified

I picked up the Batmanga volume on a whim awhile back and fucking loved it. I'd love to see similar stuff from a more modern creator.

Think so.

>And there are the "My Tim Drake hasn't been seen in years" holdouts, bless their hearts. (I do know their pain, but...you know...)
I know their pain too but I feel way less sympathetic about the Batfam because they get so much attention whatever grievances will be fixed eventually

Lesser characters, there is no guarantee of such

Well. If you're a Bat-only batfan and you're 100% mainstream, Tim and Steph's absences/changes/etc were Fan McFanface's first experience with that sort of thing. People gonna think their pain is special as often as they don't.

The Tim situation is pretty special in how bad it's been for so long, tho.

He used to be a politician, of course he's going to toe the party line.

Yeah I've seen some people pissy that Barbara, Jason, Damian, and Dick won't seem to be in it much or at all

Though 'Tec pretty much is the batfamily containment title right now and those people already have a book or two.

>People gonna think their pain is special
Right, I know that pain and thus I have some sympathy to it, and yet the special pleading of the Batfam never fails to bring out my Schadenfreude side

>marvel definitely doesn't cancel things early and uses big books to subsidize smaller books
>why does dc gotta be like that tho

>Ah, okay. But it's been a while then, yes?
Well yes. People blame Snyder for not featuring Batfam enough in his run but the trend got popularized with Morrison.

Some Batfam fans are not happy until each and every person has a solo, which even this Batmarket doesn't seem to support

pffft, oh Wade

It's dated in the sense that it's never anywhere near close to Japan as it was, or is. It's just Hollywood Japan As Randos See It.

Like, I don't feel the kind of instant authenticity that I do when Yang talks about China. Or when Writer X does their research and immerses themselves. That stuff, it was hollow, late-90s memes.

I just don't care that much about Batman desu. Same with Superman. Feels bad, but I'm more interested in other DC characters. I'm fond of some of the Bats/Supes supporting chars.

>which even this Batmarket doesn't seem to support
and thank fuck for that, there's more than enough Bat titles as is

Morrison treats his own country the same way.

what?

That's fair, but DC's Japan has very little prior lore. God, DC britland would be weird if it were pure Morrison.

So the takeaway for me is, though, that this is gonna be entertaining on the "watching fandom" end.

that is one fucking dated Esther Williams joke, John

Speaking of which, I was really fucking happy to see Green Arrow break 90k.

Fucking hell, when was the last time we saw something that had NOTHING to do with Batman sell like that?

So like, try and get Atsushi Kaneko to do a Gotham ongoing.

The appearance of Mr. Freeze in Animal Man #26's Comic Book Limbo never fails to make me snort from a present-day perspective.

Same, it sounds like GA did really well

I hope the ongoing numbers can stay consistently high (obviously not around 90k but if it settled at like 40k that would be great)

>GREEN ARROW REBIRTH #1 sold out before going on the shelf. 600% more than GREEN ARROW #52.

It's an outsider's perception of what Japan is. I think that's what he's saying.

Beginning of the New 52, Green Lantern and Flash broke 100k.

What depresses me is that the New 52 attempted to give the Green Team a shot to get out of Limbo and they fucking wasted it.

I'm more interested in Bendis finally attracting some professional criticism and underperforming sales on a big event (maybe) and where that goes. I saw Kate Leth made a veiled jab at the She-Hulk death.

For Green Arrow, would the second printing count in that too or would it ship in July and just show up there? Interested in how this shit works.

But yeah, it's been a while for those kinds of numbers. I guess early new 52.

I hope it can stay at least 40k for the first arc or so

man the sun being out so long has me keep showing up late to these

>that month when Aquaman outsold almost everything from Marvel

kek, these come after midnight for me

If it could just do enough to sustain Percy and a decent art rotation for a year or two, it'd be more steady than GA's been in decades.

GL was one of DC's highest selling books for a while

I miss those days ;_;

If Green Arrow broke 90k I'm betting GLs did similar and I assume Flash will do well too

I am curious to see how GLs' sales compare to HJGLC's

>for the past few months Aquaman has been selling 20k

Come back Johns

Flash is definitely going to do upward of 120k. A lot of showfags got in on Rebirth hype and Flash is more interesting and has bigger audience. Plus Flash played big part in Rebirth too.

But, like...there's very little "Japan" in it...aside from the setting which Paquette actually did research for when he drew the issues.

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I may move to 8 for high summer

Yeah, I wonder if that's what that was about

that book was bad.

I'm here, mostly because I think killing Marvel's eventseventsevents model would have a more salutary result than just more high sales for #1s.

>that month
>implying only one
it was a two part episode

I'm assuming. It's either that or what, Vampirella?

My house has been an oven for weeks now, and it's making it difficult to keep my computer cooled.

Fuck summer.

Yeah I'm seriously hoping CW2 underperforms. I'll feel bad for LCSes for ordering so much and people not buying it all, but events, especially ones shat out to just sell more copies, need to die

>I saw Kate Leth made a veiled jab at the She-Hulk death
link pls
Does that mean that Jen is really dead or was she jabbing at how piss poor it was written?

They wasted that Deasthroke cameo. How do you have a plot about renting Deathstroke and botch it?

I was surprised by how good it was. Thought it was just hyperbole around here. Also, Otto's art shocked me with how great it was. Didn't care for his past Marvel work, but he really stepped it up with GA.

It must be Shulkie and CWII

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I wonder if they made her do a tie in or if it was voluntary

mostly just highlights how bad floppy prices have gotten. 3 floppies SHOULDN'T equal the cost of a trade and yet here we are

I'm so torn on actually putting money down for Rebirth and Flash tomorrow. I just don't trust dc enough to put down cash

I sympathize but i was also like you're writing a c-list hero book it's not hugely shocking? I guess that also proves the point/problem in the incestuous nature of Big 2 tho, like not listening to TNC about killing Rhodey

DC should really hire more dickgirl artists huh

Well, it was either going to be her or Pak, and Pak has seniority. Pak's probably going to get to pretend Jen didn't die.

>Does that mean that Jen is really dead
Are we just going to ignore the fact that while comics will be comics, in Marvel death truly holds no meaning? there were a bunch of dead characters roaming around the streets of New York out of the blue too...

I don't know, but that earns you a spot in the comics all of shame

they had to make her do the tie-in, no way did she want to write that given the tone so far

Pak's gonna have to write ded Bruce, maybe

If they've got a big porn fanbase and they can stick to a schedule, why not? Benes gets work.

You just have to use your imagination.

Nah. I wouldn't mind if they hired Incase for something though.

Did TNC actually say not to kill Rhodey? The quote I saw was ambiguous about the actual content of his thoughts on the matter.

What's gonna be really sad is when the tie in is the last issue of Hellcat.

How many books from the NOW launch have died? Angela, Weisman's, Red Wolf, ???

It's not like Hellcat has been particularly great with any of its characters. The art last issue was fucking savage too, I would have expected so much better from the artist.

African American Knight

I get the feeling it'll hurt less for him, he's had his share during Planet Hulk days.

>How many good books from the NOW launch have died

Illuminati

I'm guessing he said something like "hey maybe don't kill a black character as a shocker death, especially one that shows up in movies" and Alonso/Bendis/et al were like "lol ok whatever you say buddy"

Somebody on CBR made a list, dunno how complete it is

>All-New Hawkeye
>Angela Queen of Hel
>Black Knight
>Contest of Champions
>Guardians of Infinity
>Hercules
>Howling Commandos of S.H.I.E.L.D
>Illuminati
>Red Wolf
>Starbrand and Nightmask
>Weirdworld

Let's see what Buy Pile Guy says, I haven't read him in a while:

>"Secret Six" #14 had some amazing moments -- a shocking turn, a fierce hand to hand conflict, shades of Paul Rudd at an airport -- but its treacly conclusion and saccharine sentiment didn't ring true.

>"Mighty Thor" #7 has the kind of artwork you'd expect to see in the sketchier parts of Artist Alley at less-than-reputable conventions. The story is a tedious digression filled with Loki aggrandizement that shows his planning but not his presence. This was rough going to get through.

>"We Are Robin" #12 covered some interesting ground as the shadow of Bruce Wayne sometimes harms the people he aims to protect. Along the way, we get a glimpse of breakout star Duke and once again see why he's the most interesting of this motley crew. Unfortunately, the plot's execution doesn't make it work, spending too long in a standoff and ending unsatisfyingly.

thoughts?

Hawkeye

A friend of mine liked it more than she'd expected because it went full slice-of-life manga instead of this kind of half-there; if you're gonna go, go all out, etc.

what good books?

They would have been right to ignore that, because no characters should get death immunity.

I don't know who to blame for how static the art feels. There's so much "stand around talking" non-action that you'd really have to get JLI on it to keep critical eyes engaged.

that's pretty brutal

is it weird that doesn't feel like that many to me? and like none of those are getting a relaunch.

>shades of Paul Rudd at an airport
I have no idea what this means

It doesn't feel like that many cause they had like 70+ books to begin with and they were cancelled over the course of many months

11 books is pretty big number to cancel regardless but I get why it doesn't feel like that many

I am warming up to this Peacemaker because he really is fucking insane

Hawkeye's pretty much been slated for a go at a Kate book, yawn

Neither do I

does anyone actually find Duke the breakout character?

How is that not a lot? especially when you consider the fact that some ended after just 5 issues?

well it's like a dozen out of what? 70 books or so?

they were the "scraping the bottom of the barrel" books