Something has to be done about the staggering gun crime in the US. I'm here on holiday from the U.K. (London), and I'm just astounded how backwards you Americans are when it comes to your obsession with guns.
It's like you don't even acknowledge the fact that the evidence shows you are wrong, and continue to use these nonsense arguments.
>The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun! If that's true why has a mass shooting NEVER ONCE been stopped by an armed citizen? Even if someone tried, it would turn into a Wild-West bloodbath as everyone starts shooting each other.
>but muh second amendment You miss the part where it refers to the right of the WELL-REGULATED MILITIA, not the individual.
I'm not one for stereotypes but it seems to me that Yanks just have a pathological, redneck like obsession with these weapons. Not a single person I've talked to has ever given a reason why they need an extended-clip AR-15 assault rifle. Not one. And yet they are vehemently opposed to sensible gun regulation and common-sense gun control.
If they are stopped before they become mass shootings how can they be called mass shootings?
Liberals are retarded
and sage
Anthony Hall
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Elijah Harris
>Salon >Huffington Post
Nothing to see here folks.
Evan Thomas
>armed civilian kills shooter before they kill 4 people >Not a mass shooting
>armed civilian kills shooter after they kill 4 people >They didn't stop the mass shooting
Tautologies are fun.
Brandon Parker
Your gun control obsession on this site is retarded.
Blake Long
American have it right you tit, we need guns here (whites only, obviously)
You'll be needing one when more and more mudslimes wiggle their way into the UK from Calais
Evan Martinez
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Tyler Russell
but mass shootings are always in no-gun zones......
Charles Flores
> no mass nuclear strikes have been prevented ever by missile shields > no black-plague-tier death toll has been prevented by modern medicine > terrorists stopped by armed citizens didn't rack up dozens of kills HMMMMM RELY MADE ME THUNK
Adrian Butler
>start shooting in gun free zones >liberals act smug and ask why no gun owners stopped them
Ian Gonzalez
>hey, here's a valid argument, consider this:
>yur rahtarrded, hurr that mean I win
A perfect example of many pro-gun (((people)))
Oliver Flores
Sage
Nathan Gray
>no mass shootings have been stopped by arm civilians well stop implies the mass shootings didn't happen or are you retarded >ctr btfo'd
Josiah Gonzalez
>No Mass shooting has been stopped by a an armed civilian.
I know you're a troll but you do need to try a bit harder. Jesus Christ put some thought into your arguments.
Nolan Williams
south carolina club about 3 weeks ago, shot guy in leg and stopped it. WTF are you on about OP?
Ayden Gray
>Shoot some emo faggot after he kills one person "TWO KILLED IN GUN VIOLENCE"
>Expecting to be told about things that potentially may have happened
ok, retard
Justin Brooks
lots of lil thug niggers like treyboon are stopped midstream from their thugging by handguns. Otherwise they 'll hurt you seems to be the narrative. Now I certainly do not wish to harm anyone, white or black. But if it's going to be my blood and brains on the pavement or the perp's then rest assured it's an effective last hope to be armed to protect myself. I, of course, have a cwp and sometimes carry.
Aiden Adams
>No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian Probably because they keep happening in states or places with extremely strict gun laws where civilians CAN'T arm themselves, you stupid fuck
Michael Cox
The most disturbing thing about that image is the retard who made it apparently does not know cops are civilians.
Jordan Mitchell
>If that's true why has a mass shooting NEVER ONCE been stopped by an armed citizen? Because they're stopped before they become mass shootings. Furthermore, what is a police officer? An armed citizen. You think cops have more training than the average concealed carrier? If they do, it's certainly not by much, though it may be more focused.
>There is an epidemic of toddlers getting into gun cabinets and killing their mums: Natural selection.
>Guns don't prevent crime They don't cause it, either. The presence of a gun in a room doesn't make any person in that room more or less likely to commit a crime, unless one of the people in that room is already planning to commit a crime. Violent crime is not shoplifting. However, it may change the dynamics of crime.
>Banning guns means only criminals will have guns is wrong This I agree with. It's always been a retarded argument and always will be. The purpose of gun control is to reduce the number of guns in circulation.
>muh second amendment I agree with this also. The Bill of Rights was a mistake and I'm glad we don't have one.
In conclusion, firearms law is a complex topic in and of itself. When you combine it with crime you end up with a field so complex that no meaningful argument can be made from statistics, because statistics proving any argument can easily be manufactured. In the absence of perfect information we can only do the right as we see the right. I believe that fit and proper people ought to be able to make effectual self defence, and carry firearms to that effect. I believe that not everybody is a fit and proper person. I believe a regime ought to exist to ensure that only fit and proper people carry firearms for self defence. I do not believe it is productive to place the people in opposition to the government and try and construct laws around a society you acknowledge doesn't exist.
Leo Gomez
>Not knowing that (((gun control))) is (((coincidence))) lead.
Brandon James
Get fucked, gun grabbing jew!
Ethan Butler
>there are millions of people in the world who fiercely fight for the infringement of their own rights and freedoms
I will never understand this level of brainwashing.
Joshua Foster
You mean something has to be done about niggers?
Bentley Sanders
Dozens of mass shootings have been stopped by armed civilians. Why do you feel the need to lie to get your point across?
it clearly says in the 2nd >well-regulated militia
so we, as the people, have every right to demand they be so
Thomas Powell
Its not a mass shooting if the killer gets shot before killing multiple people. If the killer is shot after he kills ten people then i guess he didnt stop the mass shooting. You obviously dont live in a place where theres alot of nigs and spics and heroin junkies and meth addicts. Where i live all these groups run rampant, and the theres overlap between them. If there were no guns in town all these scumbags would have a field day where i live.
Mason Hughes
this
Brandon Roberts
>1 post by this ID
All of you niggers are getting slid
Carter Ramirez
It says a well-regulated militia is neccessary to the security of a free state.
It says literally nothing about a well-regulated militia being the only ones to have a right to keep and bear arms.
Read better, stupid.
Jose Butler
well-regulated means functional, not overburdened with government regulation.
William Cruz
Guns are the only thing stopping all savages from enslaving whites in murica. So fuck off eurofagg.
Leo Green
>well stop implies the mass shootings didn't happen or are you retarded name me one
>off duty cops are not valid
Hunter Morales
SHALL
Camden Long
What about those Texans at the Mohammed caricature exhibition? I thought these two mudshits got BTFO'd before they could start a mass shooting.
I'd say your claim is factually wrong.
Landon Taylor
>regulated doesn't mean regulated!
The amount of mental gymnastics Americans will go through to cling to their penis compensators is incredible.
Landon Williams
This thread will get 500 posts because Sup Forums is full of fuckcing retards who can't see a shill right in front of them
Michigan militia member checking in. Liberals want to destroy this country.
Caleb Howard
NOT
Adrian Cook
That picture is so stupid. If one person with a gun gets shot it will only be noted by the local media, so a lot of shootings has probably been stopped.
Julian Davis
Listen here Brit Bong! Just because you failed to maintain your own rights and your country is now awash in bootlicking sycophants doesn't mean the rest of the world has to follow your lead.
Grayson Rodriguez
Hello my friendly FBI agent
James Baker
If all whites revolted, we would take america.
Joshua Scott
What if they had said: A well regulated vehicle, being necessary for quick transportation, the right of the people to keep and use transmissions, shall no be infringed.
Would you reconsider how retarded you might be? The word doesn't mean what you think it means.
Charles Bell
Please realize that Huffpo/Salon are the progressive equivalent of Fox, on top of this, both of the articles that you posted use studies that only look at gun crime, not overall crime. This has the effect of making it look as if getting rid of guns has a massive effect, when it has little/no effect on the overall crime/homicide rates. TLDR: The US does not have a gun problem we have a surplus of poor individuals.
Jace Evans
Google "fending off armed intruders". Guns on a regular basis save the lives of women and children, faggot.
Ethan Gomez
How about you run on home, Tea bag?
Adam Rodriguez
Fuck off back to your own country you fucking red coat.
William Walker
FPBP/thread
Pic related. #notallbrits are cucked, illogical, and passively cowardly whiners.
Charles Cox
>"If we can't enjoy the luxury of owning firearms of our dreams then nobody can!"
t. Eurotrash
Brandon Evans
>GUNS CANT STOP EVERY CRIME SO THEY CANT STOP ANY CRIME
Please stop with this bad logic.
Handguns wound more people than they kill, stopping an attack or deterring further violence.
Why are you so desperate to put all americans at the mercy of thugs?
It would mean cars need to be regulated by the government as they are.
Although Americans also seem to have an unhealthy obsession with cars, but I suppose that's because their public transportation is at 3rd-world levels.
Ian Harris
What is the best mass produced semi automatic handgun in the world for under $900 and why is it the Sig Sauer P-226 (or P-229).
Gavin Miller
fpbp
don't ever expect liberal to come up with logic
Aiden Smith
I love that liberals suddenly support the police fervently when they can use their deaths to further an agenda. It's astonishing how quickly they turn into apple pie- tier Americana lovers then.
Nolan Butler
>meanwhile in the UK people kill each other with knifes how civilized
Jack Wilson
"Regulated" meant "properly trained" back in the day. A certain court of yours has analyzed this sentence very thoroughly, you should know.
James Anderson
But many hundreds of thousands of shootings have been stopped one-on-one (or one on many) by an armed good man or good woman.
Niggers desperately want gun control.
Guess why?
Niggers don't obey gun control laws.
When whites cannot shoot back, niggers are in your living room raping your daughter within a year.
Also, will the Hillary shilling ever end?
Isaiah Edwards
>Huffington Post >Salon
Seriously, nigger?
>You miss the part where it refers to the right of the WELL-REGULATED MILITIA, not the individual.
You miss the Supreme Court cases where the WELL-REGULATED MILITIA is defined as everyone.
>Something has to be done about the staggering gun crime in the US.
You are right about this, though. I think we ought to take a look at who's committing all of these violent gun crimes, and send them back to Africa.
Nicholas James
This and the fact that most times mass shootings happen in areas that are gun-free zones. Being that responsible gun owners wouldn't want to break the law, they couldn't be stopped by such people in those zones.
Nicholas Davis
>Bumping a b8 thread
Seriously nigger?
Eli Flores
You don't even understand basic english. It doesn't say "The militia and the right to bear arms should be well regulated" it says that not infringing on the right to bear arms is a requirement for the well regulated militia to exist.
Julian Hill
christ you are so dumb
like nigga u r just so dum
Robert Davis
lets absolutely rek some liberals who still manage to support "gun control" nonsense. feed me their tears.
Josiah Taylor
If they're stopped, they don't get called mass shootings you fucking monkey.
Liberals are literally too retarded to live.
Adrian Perez
>If that's true why has a mass shooting NEVER ONCE been stopped by an armed citizen? Because if the shooting was stopped, it never became a mass shooting, tardface.
Liam Sullivan
>stop mass shooting >no longer a mass shooting 0/10
Angel Walker
wtft I hate gun nuts now
Matthew Russell
This board is practically all bait threads, anyway. It's been shilled to death.
Plus, the email field is gone for some reason, so I can't sage.
Jonathan Martin
would americans obey Jesus if he did this
Matthew Adams
Faggot. I'd murder you with a teaspoon just for fun.
Sebastian Butler
How about all those robberies? I know they're not mass shootings and therefore don't fit the narrative, but surely there are facts regarding robberies stopped by private gun owners?
Alexander Nelson
No.
The founding fathers were smarter than some ancient jew.
Liberal media ignored it to push their narrative Liberals ignore out of ignorance, or, convenience. Fact is armed citizens lowers crime rate. Armed citizens are a standing militia to keep a government in check.
Wow Huffingtonpost and Salon. Really made me think. Thanks for correcting the record.
Christian Fisher
Appalachian Law School shooting.
Pearl HS
Stopped by two students and a vice principal respectively.
Isaiah Roberts
>mental gymnastics
Did you guys receive a memo instructing you to say this every time you get assraped in debate?
It's like calling someone a tryhard when they beat you in a game.
Leo Gomez
Yet we call people with guns to save us every day
Jackson Edwards
There's a reason gun control only comes up after a highly publicized shooting, then fizzles out after a week with absolutely nothing getting done.
It's not because the evil NRA controls congress, it's because gun grabbers are in a constant state of getting massively BTFO and the American people see this and recognize gun control for the batshit stupid idea that it is.
If you don't like an armed citizenry, then you don't like liberty and you don't like America, and you should go the fuck somewhere else.
Parker Johnson
nah look at the OP, uses words like pathological. Very subdued word association. A word everyone typically uses in concert with liar. These bait threads need work. -5/10
Michael Garcia
Because they're stopped before it became a mass shooting (Uber driver in Chicago) and most mass shootings take place in California or in schools where you're not allowed to carry firearms.
John Scott
>muh mental gymnastics >muh small penis >gun nuts lololol