I keep hearing this guy stating over and over again that the USA is the only country that has the right to freedom of...

I keep hearing this guy stating over and over again that the USA is the only country that has the right to freedom of speech.

Is this right, and if so, how?

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Say "fuck Islam, the holocaust didn't happen". Post results

No country has free speech anymore.

You get arrested for speaking the truth everywhere else. I assume Norway have "hate speech" laws.

I say it every day.

Nothing will happen.

In canada you can get arrested for hurting someone's feelings.

In the 1990s, the US supreme court ruled that burning a cross on someone's lawn was covered by the first amendment.

No one truly has a right to free speech anymore. It may be in our and other constitutions, but Liberals and SJWs have successfully shut it down.

Freedome of speech doesnt exists.

If you offend surrten people with your words, you will see a reaction to it.

Try to criticize US goverment or FED you will be killed.

I wonder who got

Stop worrying about America, go resurrect the black metal scene and start burning mosques.

US is the only country with free speech coded into its constitution. All other countries only have it as long as the government allows it.

Nothing will happen in most countries.

I don't know about Norway, but here in Canada, I'd have to go public about it to get sued and maybe jailed.

>Try to criticize US goverment or FED you will be killed.
you must be new here

But that's hate speech :^)

Hate speech isnt free speech :^))))

America literally doesn't have a single difference in their freeeom of speech they get arrested for offending people and sued for anything.

You retards just keep repeating your bullshit so many times that you end up believing it

>but Liberals and SJWs have successfully shut it down.

How so?

We'd get locked up over here for even thinking that.

The USA is the only western country that doesn't have hate speech laws. I can stand in the middle of a major city and say "Fuck niggers and queers, they are all degenerate faggots. kikes are evil hope they all die, blah blah blah" and nothing can happen to me (in a legal manner).

Try this in any other western country, it will land your ass in jail or at least a fine.

The United States probably has the best protections on free speech. The first amendment is uniquely concrete and not as open to interpretation, most other constitutions allow for restrictions on vague terms like public order which essentialy means the government can do whatever the fuck it wants.

He's a canuck who thinks the US is some cuckservative dream, nothing more

America is the only country in the world where you dont have to pay taxes according to the constitution. But you can pay taxes voluntirialy. Since work and payment is exchange/trade of work force and finances and doesnt apply to taxation.

Try critizice that.

It realy depends what kind of speech you talk.

If you say "lets kill jews and bomb america" in saudi arabia nobody gives a fuck.

obviously we're talking about public speech dumbass, not some stasi shit where they eavesdrop on private conversations and report you to the commissar. though that's probably coming.

Have you ever even been to the US? I can offend anyone I fucking want and can't be arrested.

>CURRENT YEAR
>Having illeagal opinions

Why must you scary guys be such criminals

>USA
>Freedom of speech
Pick one

Well what he's talking about is positive versus negative rights
I'll use my own country as an example, because I don't know about the laws in most others
Here, we don't have a written constitution or bill of rights
We don't have any specific law protecting our freedom of speech
We have a negative right in the sense that there are no current restrictions on speech, but potentially that freedom could be removed tomorrow if a law was passed
In the US the first amendment would prevent any such law from being passed

you know how many people had "accidents" when they talked against the FED.

The funny thing is that in the end it doesn't matter, because you would be lynched on the spot.
And quite frankly I think if you did that in the middle of Times Square I'm 100% you would get locked up. Don't know for what, but they would never just let you off scot-free

>i whispered it to my dog before i shagged it haha take that american i too have free speech

Already here in Germany, as fate laughs in irony.

Getting arrested for private conversations and likes to pictures over kikebook is now to be considered "verbal radicalism", and punished accordingly.

Eh, good luck going public about this as a nobody. I'd have to try really hard to get arrested for it.

you won't get arrested for it, but chances are you'll be fired and publicly humiliated.

here you might get arrested for it

ahem.

>April
nothing was done wrong. all of it was covered by free speech

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Cuckistan 0

This always makes me rage.

That isn't true. The USA is possibly the only developed nation, in the world, where hate speech is protected.

It is not protected, for instance, in Spain.

Yeah, of course he's right because... uhh... uh... ehh...

If you were fired for it, depending on the circumstances, there is an excellent chance you could successfully sue the company and get reinstated, plus a settlement.

Now, if you did it in public as a representative of you company? Absolutely they can fire you for it. If you posted it, for instance, on Sup Forums and someone somehow tracked your IP, then you got fired for it? You would absolutely win a lawsuit, even if your company has a morals-clause (which are mostly-uneforceable).

>America
>Freedom of speech
Again, pick one and only one.

Norway's limit to free speech is speech that can be perceived as a physical threat.

And tobacco and alcohol commercials.

And... blasphemy. Fucking kek. But nobody has been charged since 1933, and nobody ever will in the future.

However, how is the USA any better, when speaking the truth there is likely to get you fired? I don't think I've seen cases like that in Norway.

In the Balkans you'd get a promotion

i've seen people in the US get fired for shit posted on facebook, dunno if they sued or not.

Yes, it is true. Just like other guy said, if you say 'Fuck Islam, the holocaust didn't happen'.

In US, people will look at you like you are crazy.

In Europe, you will be either fined or arrest for hate speech.

Freedom of speech includes the right of association. People can choose to fire people for whatever they say.

Do people believe that companies should be forced to keep employees against their will or something?

State of free speech in Europe:

youtube.com/watch?v=lIIxFjaQ1bo

The student's could sue for defamation etc. open & shut case if you're not in a liberal state, if you are take it to higher court.
It is illegal to sabotage grades.

>Implying the student can afford going to court
Your judicial system is completely broken. It favors the rich, not justice.

Firing someone for saying something on facebook is not against free speech. If one of my employees started saying the holocaust was justified and niggers need to hang from trees, i would fire them. I don't want my business to be associated with them. God damn Europeans are retarded when it comes to adult topics. I guess it makes sense since they are babied by their goverment.

>stating that there are only two genders is somehow denying "transgenderism", the idea that it is possible to mentally feel like the opposite gender of your physical characteristics.

How are people so retarded that they can't even understand their own definitions?

are you fucking autistic?

Funny, since in Sweden and Germany press self-censors itself on immigrant crime by requiring papers to agree to a "press codex", while making every paper that doesn't agree a persona-non-grata.

Apparently Sup Forums has hidden moderators from Department of Homeland Security, and if they do not like your Sup Forums rant, they will archive prematurely. Does not fit social engineering profile. Eat bluepill if you think that you are free, even on here.

Free speech my ass.

Take the beam out from your own motherfucking eye.

You cannot lock down a society without a reaction.

It's true.
No laws against hate speech in the US.
Here it's even illegal to say that gypsies are dirty. That statement can put you in jail.

...

The first amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The only way to get this law appealed is for congress to pass it by a 2/3 majority, the president to pass it and for it to be ratified by 3/4 of the state governments. It's much a more difficult law to change. In Europe, as far as I know, there is no law as deeply entrenched as the 1st amendment.

Furthermore, the US has a history of living by the philosophy of the first amendment. Many court cases have upheld all sorts of untasteful speech and the "you can say whatever but I don't have to agree with it" mentality is widespread in the culture. Well, at least it was. Thanks to SJWs and political correctness that cultural element is fading.

Freedom of speech in the US only exists when it doesn't cost (((someone))) his shekels. This is as far as free speech goes.

As for hurting someone's feelings... if it's a dude you are completely in the clear to say whatever you want, when it's the protected class then you can only get away with as much as the vaginal Jew let's you.

Overall I don't think there is a place where freedom of speech exists. Especially now with this concept of hate speech, WHICH if I may add is one of the most clever ways of criminalizing beliefs contradictory to your own to ever come out from the left. It's super effective and extremely well obfuscated so that majority of people go with it without giving it a second thought.

You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

is it illegal to say "native Sweds are cucks" too?? no offense, just asking.

>Sweden mock America for broken Judicial system
>Sweden

That's not what a negative right is.

Negative rights are those which do not require the actions of another to be exercised. Examples include right to free speech, right to own property, right to free association. Examples of positive "rights" are things like right to health care, right to employment, right to education and so forth. Positive "rights" require that someone else take action to provide you something.

Negative rights are inherent so governments cannot take them away, they can only infringe upon them.

you're weird.

Our laws and all the shit you see in the news is a reflection of our culture. Blaming our misery on a bad legal system is like focusing on a symptom rather than the disease. The disease in this case is America itself.

In Hungary you become Prime Minister

Who is behind this post?

There are penalties for libel and slander, you stupid fucking Spaniard, like in most western countries.

I could contact a radio station and give them your name, and tell them that you are a pedophile and a child rapist.

You could then sue me for defamation of character if what I said wasn't true.

Theoretically yes, nordic countries are the freest ones for speech.

However, in practice, everyone up there in scandiland will scorn you for displaying anything but cultural marxist / leftist behavior in public. Not to mention Aftonbladet and other cuck outlets that censor any rational right-winger, any anti-immigrant policy and argument, mask perpetrators' backgrounds in reported crimes.

Having done business there for over half a year in total, I'd say you're pretty red

No, that's legal to say.

>Sweden
>Free press

HAHAHAHA

Just try running an article that says "Muslims responsible for most crime in Malmo"

>swedens self deprecating black humor

REMINDER: I will report any European that makes any hate speech in this thread. Be careful or else you'll be visiting a jail cell soon.

>Getting fired is the same as going to jail

It's different because one is being done the government.

>saying anything remotely negative black people
>get doxxed
>Lose job/home/friends/ credibility for education or another job

>Talk about the truth or question Islam
>get doxxed
>Lose job/home/friends/ credibility for education or another job

>Say nothing
>Get accused of rape
>Lose job or education

>Bias Incident Response Team

This has to be a joke.

He's not even american, hes a fucking canadian.

I love that all the big conservative politic pundits that people here like, crowder (canadian), milo (british), molyneux (british/canadian), shapiro (israeli), aren't even fucking americans

>not being able to separate the legal from the social
Sounds like a feminist

>However, in practice, everyone up there in scandiland will scorn you for displaying anything but cultural marxist / leftist behavior in public.
As is their right. Freedom works both ways.
>Not to mention Aftonbladet and other cuck outlets that censor any rational right-winger, any anti-immigrant policy and argument, mask perpetrators' backgrounds in reported crimes.
As is their right. Freedom works both ways.
Statistics speak for themselves.

youtube.com/watch?v=3KS3eXSP3CU

But he's a Moor so it's most likely true

Is freedom of speech ink on paper or an implementation within a social context?

Could you legally release the daily stormer as a regular paper in those countries?

If you couldn't, then the press isn't free.

We kinda have that culture here too, though obviously not as militant as in the USA.

I've never encountered anyone who was so shocked by words that they wanted my speech censored, or anyone else's for that matter. Things that don't make sense or are offensive are generally just ignored or criticized respectively, without the call for censorship.

Have you ever been to America?

If you shout "Fuck Niggers" in the worst ghetto you might get socked, but you could shout it downtown in any major city and people would just ignore you, at worst a nigger might shout at you.

If the police were around the worst they would do is ask you to be a little quieter.

Whether or not you will suffer judicial repercussions.
I don't know. I haven't looked into it.

Here in France, we got comedians getting arrested over Holocaust jokes. Look up Dieudonné.

I'd be dead or in jail

yeah, you're right thanks for pointing that out
I'm not sure what the term for what I was talking about would be, declared or undeclared?

>April
still using outdating news to "prove" your point?

guess what? the uni wouldn't let the professors do this

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you really can say anything in America unless of course what you've said leads to the severe bodily harm or death upon someone.

Couple examples I can think of
>yelling fire in a crowded area whilst there is no fire causing a child to get trampled.
>Attempting to make people riot. Civil unrest?
>screaming "let's kill this filthy smelly nigger" and then the nigger gets hung from a lamp post.

That's about it. You can say anything else here

Didnt a comedian recently get fined for making jokes about a shitty disabled kid?

Man, you are cucked hard if you believe that nothing would happen to you if you started an anti-immigrant newspaper.

He is right. While freedom of speech is a common assumption among the citizens of other western nations, that right isn't explicitly codified in legal statute.

Well "fuck niggers" is not really that heavy. I mean, going out there and start hate preaching through a horn for example. Start talking about how all the niggers should hang and just go on full hitler on the crowd. I have no clue if you would be ok, but until I see it I won't believe it

>if i post a lot of bullshit all at once, they won't even bother trying to dispute me being wrong this time!!

get lost schlomo

>still using outdating news to "prove" your point?
You mean like 90% of SwedenYES?

>Be American
>Get punished for not reciting the Mexican pledge

yes, yes he did.

It's both to be honest. In America, there is a legal protection but the social context of free speech is going out the window. See gay wedding cakes, every time someone gets fired for saying something on Twittter, social pressure to be liberal, etc.

We should have free speech in both contexts but the only way for that to work would be to change the culture (sorry Sweden, it's too late for you). You don't want to use the government to force companies to put up with free speech because that would infringe on their right to run their business how they want.

Something would happen, but the police wouldn't do shit about it. It's perfectly legal.
Cute. Can't deal with the fact that your country has less freedom than literally all of Europe combined?

Freedom of speech means the government cannot punish you for what you say, but a citizen can try to take you to court if you've slandered them; they won't get too far, though.

What's it like in Estonia senpai?