The roach government DEMANDS visa freedom for their people. Which means the fucking scum could enter every country in europe!
I need serious answers. How can I bring forth the request to leave that decision to the people. Every EU citizen over 18 should decide if roaches are allowed and no fucking parlament.
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>Which means the fucking scum could enter every country in EU
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Thanks, probably going to move to england.
calm your tits, it is just travel visa. and only 3 million actively use passports, you are fine.
you are already visa-free.
Look, it's still about democratie n shit. Why shouldn't we decide like the english people did? Also, even one roach is one roach too much. Why aren't your fucking people fucking back off to roachistan? (The 20000 demonstrating for papa roach)
>England left EU
>i want to migrate like roaches
>Why shouldn't we decide like the english people did
you guys are founder of the eu, you can't get out. and have already become the 4th reich through economical means.
>Why aren't your fucking people fucking back off to roachistan?
you have wanted these guys 50 years ago. and now expecting them to go back when they are outlive their usefulness? it doesn't work like that. assimilate them properly.
Why can't we just give all africans free european passports? They are poor and deserve a rightful chance for a good life.
That's exactly how it works, Mehmet. Look up 'gastarbeiter'. The Sausagebros can deport even roaches born in Germany if they break the law, or, simply because they've outlived their usefulness. Besides, you can't assimilate so many. The larger the community, the more culturally independent it is and so harder to assimilate. Good luck with Turkey btw.
Hopefully Islamic Republic of Turkey is going to be established and all crusaders will be kicked the hell out of Turkey.
Fucking western terrorists.
roach average IQ is 90. they are so ugly and stupid.
>That's exactly how it works
then why the three generations of "gasterbeiter" is still there?
>you can't assimilate so many
there weren't in that much in the 60's. if they started early, they could have done it. Germans, suprisingly did a lousy job with assimilation of "gastarbeiter".
what's that got to do with the topic? you are the stupid one here. enjoy your arabs.
>Enjoy your arabs
Sup Forums, who are the worst migrants? Turks, Arabs or North Africans?
Heheheh
Roaches ain't getting anything after their response to coup.
Turkish government agencies and related foundations like Diyanet actively oppose assimilation or even intergration. Your diaspora in Europe is scum because the Turkish government wants them to be scum. Like all Islamic cultures, yours seems to mostly be about keeping each other down while blaming others for being down.
I hope they kick you from NATO and revoke the EU association treaty. Nobody needs Turkey.
North africans are also arabs.
>t. Meghrebi
North Africans are Berbers.
Germany never wanted turks. But were force by the US to take turk workers as a "tit for tat" that would allow nato to use military bases in turkey - it was the cold war after all, so decisions were made out of an military rather than economical perspective.
Just ask yourself: if germany really needed workersx why not take italians, portuguese, spanish, etc. people up instead? Those countries were piss poor back then and had a huge unemployment rate. There were more than enough applicants within europe. Why bother taking up Turkish workers?
turks>north africans>arabs
all of them are filth
> You have wanted
I love this propaganda
No one wanted "roaches" (i think your swell, still don't want you here, sort your own shit out first Cenk).
No one wanted Africans.
No one wanted Pakistanis.
No one wanted Somalians.
All of these groups were actively resisted against, no one wanted your "usefulness" and you know it, so don't give us that shit.
If Turks didn't participate in the oppression Olympics amongst those other groups then they wouldn't be put amongst those groups.
>Diyanet actively oppose assimilation or even intergration
don't let them. it is your country.
>Your diaspora in Europe is scum
show me one that isn't
>I hope they kick you from NATO
legally impossible, and geopolitically a suicide for west.
>revoke the EU association treaty
we are too valuable for eu to lose. deny it all you want.
>Nobody needs Turkey
Tell that to your German overlords.
>North Africans are Berbers
they have the same language and culture. they are arab.
you are full shit. learn your history.
>During the 1950s and 1960s, West Germany signed bilateral recruitment agreements[2] with Italy on 22 November 1955, Spain on 29 March 1960, Greece on 30 March 1960, Turkey on 30 October 1961, Morocco on 21 June 1963, Portugal on 17 March 1964, Tunisia on 18 October 1965, and Yugoslavia on 12 October 1968.[3][4] These agreements allowed the recruitment of Gastarbeiter to work in the industrial sector for jobs that required few qualifications.
>There were several reasons for signing these treaties. First of all, during the 1950s, Germany experienced a so-called Wirtschaftswunder or "economic miracle" and needed laborers.[5] The labour shortage was made more acute by the creation of the Berlin Wall in August 1961, which reduced the large-scale flow of East German immigration virtually to zero overnight. Secondly, the Federal Republic saw it as a form of developmental aid.
>No one wanted "roaches"
wrong>No one wanted Africans.
>No one wanted Pakistanis.
>No one wanted Somalians.
those guys are your former colonies, it is only justice you have to deal with them after you fucked them over so much.
>big manufacturers want more workers
>this means that the german populace wants said workers
westerners aren't a hivemind of indoctrinated inbred low iq idiots like muslims
they brought civilization and western technology to these places, that should more than suffice
without western imperialism half the world would still live in huts without electricity
>they brought civilization and western technology to these places, that should more than suffice
oh belgium, just like you brought civilization and western technology such as machete to Rwanda right?
Yeah because "gast" means visitor..they normally don't stay longer as needed..but since germany is 100 times better than your shithole they try everything to stay
>you are full shit. learn your history.
it seems like the average roach forgets that he was unwanted from the very beginning:
en.wikipedia.org
>The first Gastarbeiter were recruited from European nations. However Turkey pressured the Federal Republic to allow its citizens to become guest workers.[1] Theodor Blank, Secretary of State for Employment, was opposed to such agreements. He held the opinion that the cultural gap between Germany and Turkey would be too large and also held the opinion that Germany needed no more labourers because there were enough unemployed people living in the poorer regions of Germany who could fill these vacancies. The United States, however, put some political pressure on Germany, wanting to stabilize and create goodwill from a potential ally. The German Department of Foreign Affairs carried on the negotiations after this, and in 1961 an agreement was reached.
Even after this, Germany tried to get rid of roaches but they simply would not leave:
>. A "Gesetz zur Förderung der Rückkehrbereitsschaft" ("law to advance the willingness to return home") was passed. The government started paying jobless people from a number of nations, such as Turks, Moroccans and Tunisians, a so-called Rückkehrprämie ("repatriation grant") or Rückkehrhilfe ("repatriation help") if they returned home. A person returning home received 10,500 Deutsche Mark and an additional 1,500 Deutsche Mark for his spouse and also 1,500 Deutsche Mark for each of his children if they returned to the country of his origin.[7][8]
>The agreement with Turkey ended in 1973 but few workers returned because there were few good jobs in Turkey.
You were never wanted in Germany. Instead you can kiss the US feet for pressuring Germany into allowing roaches onto European soil.
Turks and Arabs...
The africans who came before the invasion made degrees got jobs and assimilated very good.
I know people from sierra leone who came for 8 years ,made 2 degrees and a driver license and are now back in sierra leone because they wanted to make a company there and help their country.
tldr they came from a much worse country and accomplished more than turkshits in 3 generation and are now back in their country because they wanted to
cherrypicking
colonies in the late stages of colonization were significantly better off than they are now
what leopold did in congo is just a continuation of what blacks have been doing to each other years prior to european colonialism
south africa has also gone to shit since blacks took over and apartheid was abolished
if europeans still governed their former colonies then the world would be a much better place
>rwanda indipendent from 1959
>genocide happened in 1994
>belgium fault
roaches logic
he means north africans not blacks
tunisians, algerians, etc
Thats why guys care so much about armenia after the genocide? After you fucked them over so much ?
and don't forget
>still denies armenian genocide to this day
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Coup made by Gulen confirmed
>replacing western terrorists with muslim terrorists
Gee wiz.
What will actually happen:
>Turk moves to Germany or elsewhere
>learns degenerate western ways
>comes back to Turkey
>Turkey becomes gay and degenerate, hairy Arabs fucking each other asses, fisting and eating shit German style
The conqueror becomes the conquered one. With Jews you lose and international migration/trade is Jewish.
This.
It's america's fault once again
that sad excuse for a coup. dream on, ahmed.
Erdo-Chan is playing you like a fiddle.
>Turks have cultural differences with us!
> Morocco and Tunisia is ok to come.
it doesn't add up.
>armenia
ottomans never had colonies in western sense. and armenia was founded by gumru agrrement in 1920 to be immediately annexed by soviets
>genocide
read Maxim Gauin and learn something. give an answer to his paper. it is still unaswered
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>hairy Arabs
You are annoying you know?
>news about increasing immigrant flow last week
>we used to send them back
>now Erdoshit said he won't take immigrants back if no deal on visas
>we're already doubling the number of soldiers on the border
>meanwhile mudshits start flowing from fucking Grease
>several hundred arrested just last week
>many more are suspected to have reached Serbia
You know, you shits can come here and help us stop them, right? We have volunteers from many places. I know most of you are fat NEETs, but still.
Is it coincidence that Jews/Mexicans/Arabs have all hairy leg/moustache women?
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>ottomans never had colonies in western sense
you annexed lands and treated their people like second class citizens for not being towelhead goatfuckers
for you lazy fucks:
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The hour of the Turk looms upon the fragile Western nations. Ripe for true conquerors, the legions of the Ottoman Empire march forth to sweep away the decadence and weakness of the pathetic white man, spurred on by the very people begging to be destroyed.
The Anglo way, erase everybody, no proof of genocide. Turks might learn a thing or two. People these days think Jamaica was always a nigger island.
>Turkish woman
>Hairy
Shut up Russia with amblem
>machete
You seem confused thinking it's a bad thing. This is how you discipline locals when creating civilization tho. And we should have done the same with you roaches.
see>you annexed lands and treated their people like second class citizens for not being towelhead goatfuckers
ottomans never changed their language
never pushed to change their religion
didn't touch their administration or judiciary
just tax them.
it is you who fucked your colonies. tell me why ivory coast speaks french and catholic? or latin america spanish and catholic?
on the other hand greece or serbia still preserves their culture.
It's known fact that Mexican/Jewish/Arab, even occasional gypsy women have dark hairy legs and moustache. But nowadays they shave so you don't see it, but if they didn't shave you would truly see their genes.
Ok, this isn't technically "hair".
be like that, show your true colors. that way everyone can see how shitty you are.
>we should have done the same with you roaches.
>We
You are not even a nation?
because the christian lands you invaded had a superior way of life and culture to yours
greek culture is infinitely superior to your goatfucking ways
africans were smearing shit on their huts before europeans arrived and still are to this day
Didn't i said shut up?
Lol so funny man hahaha xd
You sound triggered.
>christian lands
those "christian lands" ottomans invaded lived a 500 years of pax ottomana. Greek in 18th century called Ottomans back when Venice invaded their lands.
>africans were smearing shit
yes we know you are shit minded, pretend to advocate human rights, thinking you are above everyone else. you don't need to tell us again.
Kazakhstan isn't really Arabic, if it were their women would look much different. Lets be honest now, Arabs and Jews and Mexicans and niggers want to be white.
because europeans are above everyone else
our culture and way of life is objectively superior to every other on this planet
only the nips can actually compete with western civilization
if we wouldn't be bothered with other shithole countries and their troubles we would have colonized mars by now
>on the other hand greece or serbia still preserves their culture.
Because they managed to fight back your sharia laws unlike bosnia, albania and cyprus, which to this day are still the most underdeveloped countries in the EU
The only reason turkey is semi developed is because of being placed on a very strategic trade route and ataturk, else it would just be another shithole like all other muslim nations which dont have oil. But it looks like you guys really want to get back to the middle ages with sultan erdogan
Its really funny no muslim countrys economy was ever production oriented, like you people actively refuse to evolve
>rampant turkish shilling after the coup
ak trolls have infested this place, bring the raid I'm out
Did you yet figured in Turkey who was behind the coup and why? Lets hear it.
Hahahaha. Tough break, Germs. We tried to warn you.
Western Europe and the former anglosphere should be on Mars right now.
kek.
she's obviously almost purely mongolian by blood
Tayyibin anasını sikeyim karısına sokayım kızına attırayım amına koyayım ırzını sikeyim hırsız orospu çocuğu
Are you happy now?
I just post random girl faggots
>because europeans are above everyone else
yeah, sure buddy.
>sharia laws
it doesn't apply to the non muslims. I wrote that above, non-muslims keeps their religion and judiciary. you don't know anything about millet system, go read.
Bosnia and albania didn't want to pay extra taxes, easy way to not pay to convert.
>cyprus
25% of the island is already turkish? and it was a british colony for 75 years. they could have done something.
shit, part of it meant for you
Post some Arabic beauties.
>25% of cyprus is already turkish
Yeah like half the balkans were before you got exterminated
Here ya go. ;^{D
you meant genocided right? taste your own medicine.
> North africans are also arabs
As much as you are central asian mongoloids.
They are still scum though
>tfw we got out by the skin of our teeth
you were never a part of the schengen to begin with.
But once they become "naturalised" then they could come here.
Then there is also the EU promising to speed up talks with Turkey over joining the EU. Which would grant them the right to come here fully, as it did with Romania.
Oops, trying to create new thread
Legally they can't grant roaches visa free travel. This was bound to 70+ conditions Turkey had to fulfill which they haven't. Since Roachstan has agreed to the arrangements that were made and all the conditions, they should be fully aware that visa freedom ain't gonna happen.
>EU promising to speed up talks with Turkey over joining the EU.
don't worry, it is still going for more 50 years, you won't see it happening in your lifetime. Turkey is so important for EU, that's why they can't say we don't want you outright.
>Which would grant them the right to come here fully, as it did with Romania.
it doesn't work like that. after accession( whenever it happens) some period of time will be given before that. It was 7 years for Romania I think. It would be at least 15 for Turkey.
Either way you are OK.
But Turks were already coming to the UK due to Ankara agreement, nevertheless it was harder that way.
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68 of them have passed already.
why africans don't give passports to europeans instead? Why dont they provide boats to help europeans reach african shores to have a chance at a good life? Start fundraising for poor easter yuropean babbies.
on a serious note, africans dont give passports to each other
Agreed. The scum that nests in the roachland should never be allowed to roam freely inside our borders, expecially now when their prez is chimping out.
With that beta dictatorship you got going on, the media and justice system sure look good.
Face it, roach: visa free travel is never going to happen. Neither is EU membership. The people don't want it.
>flag related
>visa free travel is never going to happen
it was there before 1980 coup. we just want it back what rightfully ours.
>Neither is EU membership.
everybody is aware of that. If EU could have outright said that, it would be easy. but as I said before Turkey is much too important for EU countries. They can not let us go. that is why they are dragging everything.
>more workers
>there is a steady unemployment rate in every country
>expecting anything than social stress from people who can't read or write and not look like your ethnic population
oy
But goyim more diversity means more strength ! hehehehe
You shouldn't stop with Turkey! Europe is for everybody!
>like roaches
roaches bring chaos with them. self-aware white Yuros don't
You fucking niggas.
I asked for help, because I want the decision being moved from people like merkel to the EU citizens.
If this idea had enough publicity no one could speak against it.
What should a merkel say "people are not allowed to vote against turkey."?
>self-aware white Yuros don't
Like the cucks who let the roaches in, in the first place?
Good thing we have the ocean, otherwise we'd have to build a wall.
As we can see with the Brexit, European policy making is way too important to leave to common people.
You are losing your NATO and EU value fast, and you can definitely be kicked.
Also.
>Don't let them
We are a free state.. Not that you'd understand...
>you can definitely be kicked
no we can't. there is no ruling case for it
>We are a free state
then don't bitch about it.
>no we can't. there is no ruling case for it
Case is building
>Don't complain
Again: Clearly you don't understand thr concept of a free society.. Turks are free to be stoneage backwards savages, and we are free to complain. Also note we no longer let Turks come here like 50 years ago.. Rules were changed to take account of your savage ways.
So Erdogan has already said something about giving Syrian refugees citizenship. Technically he could start issuing passports and then off they go to Germany and disappear, while he is still technically keeping his side of the refugee bargain with the eu
>Case is building
good luck with that.
>Clearly you don't understand thr concept of a free society
I understand it very well, look at switzerland, they are doing just what i say.
he shills. he can't do that.