Real talk

>be me
>be 4th year in polisci (comparative, and policy studies)
>be exposed to the complexity of politics
>be on pol for 2 years
>recently woke to the fact that redpill, that memes aren't liberating/freeing but rather some sort of sick ritual of reaffirmations.
>woke to the fact that pol never learned anything from the past.
>woke to the fact that 'cultural marxism' isn't real, that the current downfall our societies are experiencing stems from coalition politics.
>woke to the fact that the strongest driver of the post heres is consensus.
>woke to the fact that putin is playing the old game USSR has always played in america.
>woke to the fact that half of the people on pol can't solve a differential equation.
>woke to the fact that Trump is winning inspite of the alt-right


wtf

people who want to see political change become activists. the userbase here aren't activists at all, we really aren't. we are more like passive fans watching a sports game. do you guys not see it?

pol isn't even a source of astute political analysis. it never was.

Who cares what your kike degree taught you, faggot

>polisci

lol

This is so depressing because after I finish my degree, I will enter a world where politics is analyzed and thought of.

>meme

do you even know what it is?

We dont want to see change, we enjoy seeing the world burn.

I want to see the world burn too but you guys are like fans of marvel movies. The cheering of events, as good vs evil, as something so simplistic, it's a spectatorship at its worse. I seriously wonder what this does to our psychological health. How many of us feel depress because we feel so alienated from our surroundings?

who cares you stupid faggot i just come here for the memes

go back to canada and stay out of Americas side of the internet. bitch

>japan side of the internet

ok, so i promise to stay away from leddit.

>people who want to see political change become activists

top fucking kek

wanting to see political change != making political changes.

>woke
B L A C K E D

you wish.

if you know playing the activism/voting game is not going to get ANYTHING done, yet you still play it, you're a special kind of stupid.

So you went back to the blue-pill huh, leaf? I think it's more like you were always a bluepill, leaf, and you never stopped being one, and you somehow want to hurt this place because you see we like this place and it's useful and presents a dangerous alternative to the Narrative. And you want to do your small part to kill it, because you're a faggot asswipe that is an enemy and a faggot. And we will destroy you if you don't kill yourself first, and you know that and you're mad about your death.

Yeah well we like supporting good ol western values, what can I say x)

Wow 4th year polsci, grats man.

All that matters is who is in charge. World always has winners and losers, lots of faggots in my country bemoan and wine about the American empire, but i realise that as long as a Western, predominately white America runs the world things are better than the fucking Middle East Shahs or Chinks. Russia and West need reconcile, maybe we give a few eastern states back.

>woke to the fact that faggots actually come on pol for political insight

Joke's on you OP I am going to run for public office

>polsci
>thinks he can brag about his mediocre mathematics "skills"

should have studied something useful and with other job prospects than shilling for the trudeau-regime

>woke
>posts bluepilled shit

yeah, you're a polisci major all right

>woke to the fact that 'cultural marxism' isn't real
>implying Pierre was not a Soviet puppet that passed on his noxious outlook on politics/life to his son
a damn flat, green, photosynthesizing organ

Voting works but you need to realize that political orders have a momentum. you can't expect huge shifts.

>blue pill, red pill
maybe you do not realize but some of us want to understand the world outside of a simplified metaphor borrowed from a stupid movie.

also, how the fuck do you plan to destroy 'us' and who is 'us'? Do you realize how complex political systems are and how red pill is a mere narrative driven by consensus in reaction to the going ons? It isn't a means to understand the truth.

I have job prospects.

Who is in charge? Do you realize how complex the circuits of power are? The legitimacy of american power is contingent on a lot of shit. You really have no clue how to analyze power.

yes, you are right

Sup Forumsacks are mostly just memeing faggots, shitposters, children and shills

I come here because i find all sorts of political fuckups, scandals, actual redpills, and most of all dissenting opinions
The problem is that opinions are all these guys have, very few actually care to do something that implies getting off their computers

I am glad you appreciate complexity the vast majority of non-stem people seem to struggle with it

Marxism is bullshit, but the notion that it what you are seeing in the west is marxism is delusion. It's a dangerous delusion like McCarthyism. Also in Canada, our political system doesn't give huge amounts of power to Trudeau. Maybe in russia, being so used to having power all concentrated into a single leader, you have difficulty understanding the world in any other way.

I was hoping pol would produce a viable resistance, but even the red pills are pretty bad.

I see the leaf and I know it's just a baiting shit post

and I still respond

+1

be me
hear your major is polysci
instantly discard your opinion

Meh. I see it.

Now you know.

pol is useful to the non-moron for two things:

Wasting your time.

Quickly getting a scan on what's HAPPENING in the world. It's disaster porn.

>the current downfall our societies are experiencing stems from coalition politics.
that is such a Canadian thing to say.

Humanities can't understand complexity. Economics, political science: its all about complexity.

And it is so fucking weird that infowars has credibility in these parts. Infowars puts some 'truth' and okayish coverage but then swamps with shills for vitality shit to reinvigorate your semen. its so pathetic.

>be you
>be you who depend on your government for security and safety and everything

>disaster porn
100%

Even your country is suffering from it.
>be you who pays taxes that goes to hiring polisci majors to advice your leaders on what to do.

>4th year in polisci

HAHAHAHA KEK

whats next? I have to take advice from my local garbage collector on credit loans? You are studying a useless field leaf.

>be exposed to the complexity of politics

Politics is really one of the most simplistic areas of today's world. I guess someone studying a useless field would not be aware of that.

>be on pol for 2 years

ah so you are still on the "Sup Forums is satire right?" step. It is ofc! Board of peace!

>woke to the fact that 'cultural marxism' isn't real, that the current downfall our societies are experiencing stems from coalition politics.

nice proof there leaf. WTF I am a marxism missile now!

>Also in Canada, our political system doesn't give huge amounts of power to Trudeau.
Where did I state that Trudeau actually poses some great danger and that you gotta grab your gun and go start a revolution?
The very notion that he is a diehard socialist, much like his dad who has been KGB'd, is important. You stated that cultural marxism and the USSR subversion policies were not real, and I think I've proved you wrong with a fair example of the system working in real life.

> Polisci
> Think his degree is worth anything

I hear Wendy's is hiring, faggot.

>A FUCKING LEAF
>useless polsci degree
figures

Which financial currency is the bench mark?
Which military invades other sovereign countries with impunity?
Which political system is the most widely followed?
Which culture is the most widely exported?
Who controls Europe, the pacific, central America through trade and military agreements?

Fuck, let me guess you 'analyse' power with differential equations?

>Voting works

No it doesn't.
Name ONE important election that would have had a different result had ONE person voted differently. Oh right, you can't.

So here are your powers as a voter : NONE.
You have NO POWER AT ALL with your vote.

You're going to say : "but if a LARGE GROUP decided to change their vote, it could have an impact!".
Yup, it does have an impact. But guess what, YOU (as a voter) have NO INFLUENCE on the vote of a large group a voter. You know who does? The media, journalists, "experts", politicians, and on a much lower scale, people respected in their community.

Do you see a man with his vote anywhere on that list? Nope. That's because a voter doesn't have ANY power.

Voting is a scam to make people like you believe they hold a substantial amount of power, while making sure a tiny minority hold most if not all the "influence" which is the actual power in this system. And you fell for this scam.

Congratz on being "woke".

>real talk
>be me
>woke
and opinion disregarded

you're one of those guys who just lets the other group members do all the work

If you studied polisci, you would know why/how democracy, depending on certain conditions, produces this formation.

>when memes do not make sense
okay denmarkbro, clearly

I know pol isn't satire. I know people deeply believe in the red pill.

>CIA
>state department
>homeland security
>dod
>wendy's

I guess if wendy's is willing to pay 120K with benefits in america, I can't see why a polisci grad shouldn't pick it over other potential employers.

If you can't analyze power, how then the fuck do governments navigate and make decisions?

How enlightening.

Now go legally have sex with a pig, you putrid leaf.

>"real talk"
>"be me"
>leaf flag
Didn't even bother to read the post
Fuck off

You are a retard.

I never said that an individual has the ability to change any given order. I said given orders, given conditions, have a momentum. Voting is only a scam when you view politics from a naive lens.

I can sense the envy from here.

>be me
>be university drop out
>be Sup Forumslack off and on for a little over 6 years
>be incapable of solving a differential equation
>woke to all those same facts

It doesn't take a polisci degree to observe how Sup Forums works. Also, it's just as bad to blame "coalition politics" as it is to blame "cultural marxism" - you're massively oversimplifying what you've already identified as a very complex issue.

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i didn't even have to fucking look at the flag

a canadian political science education is not an education. your post effectively proves this.

Canadian slide-thread

If no one voted then the decision is completely out of your hands. Voting at least gives you a little power. I guess I really shouldn't expect people from the land of kings and peasants to understand that, though.

>pretentious polisci major
>envy

Yeah, I especially envy all that debt you acquired for a useless degree.

Ruined my fucking morning with this shitty fucking post you god damn leaf.

>even the red pills are pretty bad.
What do you mean?

I meant I found out here about world mechanics I was completely unaware of. Like:
>For World leaders online shilling is nowadays a basic campaign staple
>The spy age never really ended, it was just that they stopped making movies about it. Every relevant country of the world is constantly spying on, hacking, infiltrating all the other countries
>I've seen prime and live examples of media manipulation and media blackouts. Everybody knows the media twists info, but only seeing it in constant operation really makes you take it in and create a healthy distrust of media.
>falseflagging is fucking everywhere. And the silly excuses used to invade other countries...
>Stuff like torture, or MKUltra being so commonplace
>the thinly veiled bullshit that social activism has become

I know it isn't a great achievement, but normalfags don't even notice these are even a thing. They literally cannot imagine an official story being a complete fabrication.

Try and explain them that Gaddafi never actually bombed civil protests like NATO said, or that African coups are sometimes funded by tech companies

>4th year of polisci
>is still this retarded

oh wow, what else did you think people on this taiwenese male order bride forum were going to do?

Protest fags ARE CANCER!

>wants to actually analyze politics
>picks political science instead of actual useful degree like economics

Everything right now revolves around the USD, especially the petrodollar, your "political analysis" memes shit to actual policy makers.

And Sup Forums is memeing Donald Trump into the White House, what have you done? Complete a degree in Canada heavily slanted in liberal bullshit, instead of a PhD in mathematics at Yale or Stanford getting into Skull and Bones?

Your degree is a joke.

Wasn't it easier to simply say that you woke to the fact that you were a neo-con ?

really? I was just copy / pasting you way of "putting the record right". You present not a single fact to back up your claims. Not a single fucking one.

And somehow we should all sallow your semen because muh 4 years in political meme shit.

>be 4th year in polisci (comparative, and policy studies)
>be exposed to the complexity of politics

these two lines is all you put forward for your argument. Pure Ethos leaf. Useless.

>memes aren't liberating/freeing

No shit?? I find it hard to believe that even an autist really thinks that

Name ONE election that would have had a different outcome had you not voted.
Just one.

Oh right, there are none.
So here is the extent of the power you get through voting : none.
Had you not voted, had you voted for something else, had you shat in the envelope, NOTHING would have played differently.

As for your "if no one...", it's exactly what I've said : while YOU (and every single voter) have NO POWER AT ALL, people with influence have a lot of power.

Thanks for proving my point.

Didn't say you couldn't, but you are clearly retarded enough not to see the sarcasm in the comment, also meaning you are too stupid to have originals thoughts outside the textbooks your lecturer gets you to rectally insert in between having coffee with Sophie each wednesday as you discuss how enlightened you are about the world after another great tutorial session as you swill down coffee hoping that eventually she will see your pathetic attempts to make a pass at her.

She won't user, because she will end up with a man who isnt a faggot who studied polisci.

Only ever began to lurk becuz anonymoose.

/pol s forbearers rolling in their graves

>be me
>be on Sup Forums
>recently browsing a leaf thread
>the leaf is unironically using the term "woke"

Haha I took polsci prior to software engineering. Its is the biggest load of white guilt liberal bs, enjoy your new role as a purveyor of propoganda

>be a pinyo
>be living in a failed state to be
>be prideful of a culture that can't do squat.
>be making fun of a leaf even tho you kill for a visa.

well, coalition politics is a huge problem, but it is a problem that arose because of pre-existing conditions.

Democracy isn't about giving you the individual power. Democracy is consent of governance.

>5k CAD a year in tuition
>Globally ranked school
>paid internships for 2 years
>10K CAD in debt
>7.65K USD in debt
>will pay it off within the year

debt

Spying has never stopped. I learnt this from post-war world order class. There is a huge huge infrastructure involved in surveillance and collection. Intelligence was never merely just about national 'military' security, the meaning of national security also involved since the get-go a notion of national wellbeing that encompassed everything, including economic.

Media has always manipulated people. State run media is the easiest for western eyes to discern as manipulative, but non-state run media exist in a complex relationship with the state in terms of gaining access to stories, and the state tend to have full monopoly on a variety of information.

>petro dollars
>not credit dollar

Your analysis is flawed and childish.

Tell me about the trade flows between US and china.

>polisci graduates not giving advice to your leaders
>polisci graduates advice is so bullshit that nobody should want it.

pick one


you don't get what I said, and who the fuck passes a course by repeating information? It's cucks like you who can only understand the world by viewing it as if it is a game of risk.

what school? one of my profs warned us about the the ameliorative projects. It was in a course about development.

>we
>we
>we

There is no 'we', there is a giant cock sucking (you).

>Go to a lefty gubment brainwashing class
>wake up stupid

Really makes everyone but you think .

Do you even know what the course material for an undergrad in polisci involves?

The fact you are still in uni, think you understand how it all works and still think the basis of all education isn't writing an essay a marker hasn't already seen 100 times explains alot.

Politics doesn't matter; it is deterministic at it's essens. What will happen if Putin die of a heart attack? answer is nothing a "new" former military/KGB will step out and take control, because that is the current dominant power group holding the power in Russia.

Politics and people are similar too Sup Forums their is a hug-box where people align themselves with each other, the dominant hug-box is in control and elections are most often elections within this hug-box (black pigeon vs ramzpaul; or Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush etc..) .

What is relevant is how and when the controlling group change and in this aspect then Sup Forums appear to be the most prominent sub-group of this general shift away from the establishment.

>mfw you actually needed polsci studies to realize this

You used your university degree to open your eyes about an internet forum? Have fun being unemployed.

Right, except my education involves more than just mere essay writing and I do have some real world experience and I am not claiming to understand the world. I am claiming that it is delusional that being red pill is an understanding of the world.

see :
>CIA
>state department
>homeland security
>dod
>wendy's

In america, they are all employers of polisci grads.

No, I haven't done it so I'm not familiar. However I know what I know. I can see things happening. You don't need to understand physics to be scared of a bullet.

>>be me

go back to ledddit

>Leafposting Intensifies

>polisci graduates not giving advice to your leaders

I do not know about the Canadian political system nor do I care.

but in Denmark people who study political science become clerks and curators state funds and/or part of the media.

One thing they do not do is "advice" our politicians and ministers.

and to use your own Ethos against you; I was part of making the policy for one of Denmarks large established parties.

Right, so you either think everything on /pol is 100% serious and you were somehow enlightening those here with your insight or... wait is it just that?

>woke to the fact that through systematical coalition politics and complex historical polisci lecturers OP is a faggot.

guaranteed OP is a chink

>we are more like passive fans

pol is reactionary. 100% but the theory of the power behind the curtain obscures a lot. If putin was to die, given the nature of putin's governance, there would be internal infighting. Putin is an oligarch, the state is a source of wealth to these people.

Also if pol ever gets sick of narratives as a substitute of truth and commitment to narrative purity, this self-selection and containment would cease to exist. it will shift from polemics to understanding.

But you need to know physics to understand a 9mm bullet can't do squat to you 10 miles away.

Who works in your foreign affairs department? Who writes up reports of current political situations? The people?

I'm white. I guessed you failed 2nd year probability.

>when you only know how to regurgitate shit, you assume everyone else only knows as much

come on. some of us are taught critical thinking skills.

those memes circulate within a narrow network of platforms. prove me wrong, find their circulation outside of those centers of red pilled.

If we're going to run with the voting = power analogy, think of it this way:

Every voting citizen is an electron. They all carry a microscopic amount of power. Meanwhile, the media machine is responsible for directing their current. They construct the circuit of public opinion, and control which paths the power is allowed to travel along.

The problem is that there are groups of people who have found various ways to divert power from the public circuit into their own private hoards, which act like batteries. In many cases, their batteries have been charging for generations, sometimes centuries. These are multinational corporations, aristocratic families from around the globe, ancient religious city-states, medieval European principalities, secret societies. They are made up of many, many electrons, and each of those electrons contribute their individual power to a collective cell.

The batteries are hooked up to the media machine, intricately connected to every single moving part. When the time is right, a given battery may choose to discharge some of its power and manipulate the media machine, which in turn manipulates the public-opinion circuit.

In this way, groups of mere thousands of people, given enough time to interface with the media machine and siphon power from the general public, are able to (in)directly control the affairs of a billions-strong global population with a surprising level of accuracy.

I am not sure if a polisci degree in Canada is thorough in examining the historical perspective behind modern politics, but I can assure OP that over years, Sup Forums certainly has been.

>I am claiming that it is delusional that being red pill is an understanding of the world.

I would argue that ones understanding of the world, ultimately come down to ones ability to make accurate predictions of what is going to happen in a future.

Favorit elements on Sup Forums such as IQ differences between races, Sexual liberation and feminism in general; Communism, Islam and other comforting topics.

Sup Forums is better at predicting the future than the average person and therefor the consensus present on Sup Forums is closer to the actual reality than most other dominant public opinions.

>critical thinking requires skills?

Da frick am I reading?

>those memes circulate within a narrow network of platforms. prove me wrong, find their circulation outside of those centers of red pilled.

Define narrow.

That metaphor, it doesn't explain anything observable in democracies. Also batteries do not add or divert the electrons. Those batteries still have to move the electrons through the existing circuits that already exist. the metaphor when properly applied betrays your point. Media's relationship with everything else is complex too. But I'll give you credit for attempting to understand these systems in terms of flow.

>history and polisci
there are two strands we encounter: the legacy of logical positivism (aka, hypothesis/null-hypothesis, seek out evidence, crunch numbers) and the more classical perspective of viewing history of the trunk of politics.

>define narrow
look at your browsing history

>pol-sci
>dif equations
Thats a hard science math, not a pussy lib major math.

Lets not pretend you can solve them there bub.

Majority of all habbening predicts are false.

It's a Canadian pasta nigger and part native thread.
So you're a polsci graduate now? Will you invent another new teacher from QueensU?

>look at your browsing history

No m8, define narrow.

Give me a scope you dumbas.

Donald trump isn't going to be president and I seriously wonder if he really wants the job.
Nice chart though

>theory of the power behind the curtain obscures a lot. If putin was to die, given the nature of putin's governance, there would be internal infighting. Putin is an oligarch, the state is a source of wealth to these people.

I think most people are aware that "the power behind the curtain" is not an organized power. It is people whom are in power and share a common ideology or set of values.
The internal fight for power that their would be in Russia if Putin where to die, would be between people whom share the same set of beliefs, - again not organized, but analog to how many people here on Sup Forums share a similar belief system and we synchronize our beliefs with each other.
As long as it is the same people that share the same set of values, ideology or what ever you may call it; then it won't matter whom is the public face.

>Deutche Bank is crashing
>IMF admits it fucked up with the Euro
>Kebab have been kebabing in Europe since the rapefugee crissis
>There have been plans to do something at the Euro Cup but police managed to stop it
>BLM nig nogging

4th year pol sci and can't write a coherent grammarically correct sentence.
I would invest in english classes mate.

>econometrics

>redpill videos on youtube
>breitbart
>reddit
>half and full chongs
>a few others

EU is not in a good place. It clearly fucked up big time.

Ideology doesn't rule it all. I dare say that Putin and his fellow oligarchs may not even have a coherent ideology, but they do have aligned interests to a certain extent.

Go away leaf, Praise Kek.

yea Ideology was a poor choose of words, since most politicians in this era are pragmatic above all

>He thinks that distribution is more important than the amount of memes

>But you need to know physics to understand a 9mm bullet can't do squat to you 10 miles away.

No you don't. Any person with a passing interest in weaponry will no that. Which further serves to analogically prove my point.

It is 8am here. I'm drunk, give me a break.

>eu not in good place
EU really screwed up. It was a fragile circumstance that, given the folly of recent leadership, brought about total disaster. The 2007 enlargement was a mistake, predicated on economic growth

In a second year game theory/decision theory course, we were given some lectures from the behavioural econ profs. They asked us if, maybe, just maybe, decision making across massive amounts of people isn't cohesive, or even rational, even that all actors know what is up.

>6 gorillion memes produced
>6 gorillion memes only seen by the same distribution
>distribution of it increases marginally beyond the existing circulation
>most influential circulation ever.

yep, distribution doesn't matter.

let me revise what I said: if you understood the physics of bullets, you would have more options in how you respond to that bullet than merely be scared of it.

know*

that's fucking embarrassing.

A

FUCKING

LEAF

slide thread

whats more embarassing

>misspelling of a word
>or
>the full embracement of ignorance and naivety

????

where is my 0.5 cents?

Its not about memes really affecting people, though sometimes you want that, its about the meme magic, which you probably don't believe in.

Search for the trudeau diversitython

>diversitython

trudeau doesn't have any power in the universities.

>let me revise what I said: if you understood the physics of bullets, you would have more options in how you respond to that bullet than merely be scared of it.

No you wouldn't. Physics doesn't allow you to doge bullets. Similarly, with a passing knowledge and a keen eye, you can see what is wrong with a system without understanding how it works by looking at it on a larger scale. You don't need to understand the gun to know that you are fucked if someone points it at you and pulls the trigger, and you don't even need to understand the complexity of the consequences, only that they are negative.

"Conspiracies", ideology, a politics are accessible to the laymen, and for all intents and purposes fully recognized for their positive and negative effects.

Many of us draw raw information from people like you, along with what we can easily observe happening on the surface, to paint a picture and forecast what is to come. The accuracy of this picture should be decided on a case by case basis and it wouldn't be fair to assume it wrong.

Similarly, we know that weapons fire bullets that can enter the body and cause death, and if someone is about to fire a gun at us, we can safely assume that we are about to die if action is not taken.