He believes that the Adam and Eve story in the bible should be taken 100% serious and that's how us humans came to be...

He believes that the Adam and Eve story in the bible should be taken 100% serious and that's how us humans came to be and not just a metaphore that anyone who follow gods rules will be granted eternal life in heaven.

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Christianity - The Plagiarised Jewish Messianic Death Cult.

White Swedish women are a lot like African Nobel prize winning chemists

It was a theodicy for Jews to explain where evil and suffering came from.

By metaphor you don't mean a literary metaphor, you mean damage control.

No, I believe what's important isn't if it's true or not, it's the moral of the story. Pretty sure even people 2000 years ago understood that these where just stories.

This shit got way out of hand, I tell you what.

(((christianity)))

>believing anything in any book written by jews

Learn to spell, you autismo faggots.

I was married to a woman whose entire family believed the Bible, Old and New Testament, was word-for-word true. I was talking to her father (whom I hated) about the Bible one day (because that's all he talked about) and asked if he literally believed Eve was created from the rib of Adam and women feel pain when birthing because of a fucking apple and he said 100% without a doubt yes. Jumped ship on that bitch.

Never date Christians, Sup Forums.

Adam and Eve were real people though. Google Y-chromosomal Adam. Also there is strong evidence to assume they were the first conscious humans. We also know humanity went through a genetical bottleneck were only a few thousand humans lived at the same time of which only the offspring of Adam and Eve survived till today.

Its a load of shite, but what can you expect from stoneage jews?

Yup. The whole metaphor thing hasn't been jumped on until science showed how fucking stupid the theology was.

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mitochondrial eve lived at a different time than y-chromosomal adam

Source?

cmon bro you obviously just made that up

>Adam & Eve = pre-human ancestors
>Snake = hunger, more generally instinct (for survival)
>Forbidden Fruit = Psychidelic mushrooms
>Knowledge of Good & Evil = Discernment of opposites; transcendence.

shit I remember that from history class from like over a decade ago. It's important to point out they were like cavemen tho, not ''real'' people. Isn't the skeleton of that eve in a museum somewhere?

I bet you ran out of there so fast you left your fedora behind.

>muh science say
Fuck off, science can't prove shit, they couldn't even prove evolution

Pic related. The "apple."

Some stories in the Bible are metaphorical and if you can't realize that, you're a fucking moron

And a video

youtu.be/kyQOeiY11RA?t=2673

Also;
>The Stoned Ape Theory

Magic 'shrooms might've been the thing that triggered the growth of our neo-cortex. Shit's fascinating

>us humans

When do you suppose the distinction came to be made between one of us as simply a creature with whom we can have an understandable interaction and a *Human Being*?

Do you see what I'm getting at?

When was the term Human Being coined and for what reason?

"We", as a species a species have been around for a long time but I speculate the term *Human Being* has been around for less. I think it means to consciously personify abstract Virtues in contrast with unconsciously doing Evil.

Doing the Right Thing.

I further think that Adam and Eve may have been the first Man & Woman in contrast with being merely Male & Female which there could have been many thousands of who behaved completely naturally albeit perhaps savagely by our standards.

Maybe ...

>science has to prove everything instantly

I don't think you understand what science is

its the method of asking a question then following a process to prove or disprove the question. This modern view of science as another form of faith based doctrine is abusrd.

There is no reason why science and theology cannot coexist, they are not in opposition and a greater understanding of science gives us a deeper understanding of or theology

> Some stories in the Bible are metaphorical
Why not all? The authors didn't really make it clear. I guess anything supernatural could be assumed metaphorical then?

>some stories are metaphorical
>except the god parts, those are definitely real

You can't just cherry-pick what is and isn't literal to try to avoid scrutiny.

Everyone here knows the distinction between being a Male and being a Man. I think Religions codify this and embed it into a social contract.

Genuine Question

Can Science do that?

They all still took place in a Time and Space similar but so obviously different as to jusify our scepticism. The Eternal Truthes can still be maintained though, they just can't be justified against the cost of an Oxen or the Value of Goats.

Our standards for these equations have changed.

Genesis is scientific accurate. That is why god created light the first day , then it was evening and morning without the sun The sun was created on the fourth day

>pic related goat herder 2000 years ago who did not know science

Judaism didn't even exist until centuries after the Crucifixion.

That story is an allegory for the agricultural revolution.

I hope you take zeus and allah just as seriously

more seriously than I or anyone takes you fucking dole scrounger.

jeez dont get mad so quickly m8. I was completely passive.

Other way around. Literalist readings of Gensis only gained popularity in the last few centuries in Protestantism. The Church Fathers treated them as instructional texts with varying levels of meaning.

> He believes that the Adam and Eve story in the bible should be taken 100% serious
He must be a christfag.

the fruit is never identified in Genesis. It's described more in Revelation but it's clear it isn't a fungus

>He believes that the Adam and Eve story in the bible should be taken 100% serious and that's how us humans came to be and not just a metaphore


No, you are required to literally believe the Adam/Eve fable because only that can validate the "original sin" dogma.

Without being born damaged goods, you have no motivation to enslave yourself to the church.

Best. Lie. Ever.

Passively irreverent perhaps but it still had a tone of mockery to it. Fucking Australians all need a choke chain, none of you seem to know when you're shit posting.

That's what I believe. I'm almost certain they're what allowed our ancestors to develop the use of language.

How so?

Well, let's consider what language is. It's a group of symbols arranged in such a way that it has meaning, that is to say, it represents something real, but in an abstract fashion. The psychedelic trip allowed our ancestors to see beyond mere reality into the "transcendent" world: the world of symbols.

You read this world: "apple."

What do you picture? A bright red apple, probably. But apples come in all shapes and sizes. Each one is unique. Yet each manifestation, no matter how different from the others, is undeniably an "apple." The symbol represents something that transcends singular manifestations.

>the book that has been edited thousands of times are more right than the oldest, most ancient copies we can find

this is the main problem with all of you fucking religious monkeys

I hear that point a lot, treating other dumb religions the same as your dumb religion, and christfags cannot handle it. A single smart response would wipe it off the internet, but you cannot form a coherent comeback, so instead you just start calling the opponent poor, or a cuck, and then you go and fap to straight white couples in the missionary position. Disgusting.

Had enough petrol, abo?

clearly the fables were metaphors written to serves as a compass for the ignorant people of the time

today know what was meant in scipture

Are you retarded?

>straight white couples

lolwut?

Massive pornography industry across the morally bankrupt and corrupt western world full of gainfully employed heterosexual white ""couples"".

You get too much Sun in Australia than is good for your Common or Garden variety White.

>Virtues in contrast with unconsciously doing Evil.
"Evil" is an flawed artificial construct with an irreconcilable duality. What may be good for one person may be considered evil for another. It cannot be expressed in absolute terms.

The slaughter of every man woman and child in the Canaanite Valley because they were labeled as "evil" - ostensibly for being nothing more than non-believers - cannot be reconciled as any ethical or moral action.
> there could have been many thousands of who behaved completely naturally albeit perhaps savagely by our standards.
Compared to the daily atrocities committed by the average hate-filled right-wing Middle East religious conservative, I struggle to understand how we can credibly judge any other culture to be "savage".

>Genesis is scientific accurate.
Nope.


>That is why god created light the first day
Light from what, a big bang, perhaps?


>then it was evening and morning without the sun
Does that cognitive dissonance really make any sense to you?


>The sun was created on the fourth day
We know that stars are born all the time, a continual process. The illiterate Bronze Age shepherds knew their sheep inside and out, but they apparently didn't know our sun was a star like trillions of other stars.

religion is stupid cus universe big

The disparity between the intelligence and information required to make his post and yours is so huge.

He's right you stupid faggot.

He doesn't believe that Adam and Eve is prophetic where Eve represents women as a group and they lead Adam (all men) into sin. Where the forbidden fruit is straight up degeneracy and where the serpent/Satan is actually far left "progressive" regression (IE An ouroboros). Where humans are then cast out of Eden (Earth).

Shit nigga it's like you can't read between the lines.

>the serpent/Satan is actually far left "progressive" regression

Your irrational hatred for all things left proves your severely damaged cognitive ability.

>>then it was evening and morning without the sun
>Does that cognitive dissonance really make any sense to you?


You can only have a day pass with the 24 hour rotation of the planet, If the sun would blow up it would be dark but it would still be 15:30 in the afternoon in europe

I hate far right at well.
Also irrational implies it can't be explained when actually I can explain the hate for both the far left and right and in a sense I already did. Regression and stagnation

So if that part of the bible is a metaphor, then I would assume the whole thing is a metaphor. jesus wasn't magic and it's entirely a myth.

>Shit nigga it's like you can't read between the lines.
Shit nigga it's like you are making up crap.

It doesnt fucking matter. God knows our limitations, maybe he shouldnt beat around the bush so fucking much.

The Old testament was written long before the New Testament. That's really bad bait or you don't know biblical history.

Side note I am a non denominational secular Christian not a fundamentalist, I believe in Evolution and the Big Bang as well

>A legit nigger
What is an interpretation?

ITT

You cherypick what's metaphor and what's literal, what means something and what doesn't because it's a myth. Before we proved genesis wrong, people took it literally. We still know that jesus's miracles were physically impossible, yet you keep pretending that they happened.

You should look up when each book was written by who. You can't say "oh all books are supposed to be legit even though they were all written within a huge time period by a bunch of different people" if anything your hatred for it is just as moronic and ignorant as fundamentalist religious people.

Why are the retards always American who are like that?

even the catholic church admits to evolution, because they dont see that as a contradictory that god created us that a method.

Unless the book says its an interpretation dont do it user. Interpretations are crap because they are not objective.

It's not hatred, I'm just telling you that its clearly an ancient myth and the stories told are physically impossible. It is literally impossible for a man to just create scores of bread and fish out of nothing.

Jews copied Egyptians and Babylonians.

It is also literally impossible for a human woman to be impregnated by anything other than human sperm.

'we' proved genesis wrong.

Any more edge and you might cut yourself.

Also, no one, especially not you, has proven genesis wrong. The earth is under 10,000 years old.

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

Genesis is wrong from the first few sentences. You are an embarrassment.

You guys arguing about the fucking sun and earth being created in 4 days.
L...o.....fucking...l

Lets not forget in the bible angels fucked humans and made giants. A guy lived in a fucking whale. People came back from the dead.

And the all knowing, wise and loving god who can count the hairs on your head and knows the names of all the stars ALLOWED his ARCH NEMISIS into his garden to ACCOST his most PRECIOUS creations.

GOD DID NOT DEFEND HIS CHILDREN, GOD FAILED.


The bible is shit, literally unproven to this very day.

You're confusing Christianity with Islam.
Christianity teaches to pay your taxes, help your neighbor, win your enemy over with love which reveals Jesus is Lord. Through your kindness, wisdom, and righteousness the truth will reveal itself.
This.

*teleports behind you
*tips fedora
*"Nothing personal kid. I'm an atheist."

"Any technology sufficiently advanced will appear like magic."

>kek. thinks he's redpilled

>The earth is under 10,000 years old.
>Fossils of humans from 30,000 years ago exist

Christians are such retards.

Didn't address a single thing I said, you might as well have just not said anything.

Sounds stupid. I would never positivly associate with stupid people. Would say the same if they were a flat earther.

Isaac Asimov was literally a Gay Communist Jew who died of AIDS

I don't blame you. That level of delusion and ignorance about reality is really intolerable.

That's because you said nothing.

>Ok I need you to stay in this garden of bliss forever but NEVER EVER listen to the snake and eat the apple, clear ?
>But that thing's got an eternity to persu-
>NEVER
So the lesson here is evil always wins in the end ?

Some things are myth and some aren't yes. Old Testament is basically entirely word from mouth stuff until writing came about. The Jesus stuff was more recent, during the Roman times.

Science deals in the physical realm, what we can see, feel, smell etc.
Spirituality deals in what cannot be see seen, felt, smelt, etc.

So one could say Jesus's miracles are allegorical or summarized into miracle like acts or they could be legitimate spiritual miracles. That's sort of what belief is

Having belief in the carbondate jew

Evil is probably best defined as taht which is bad for everyone, even the perpetrator which means this individual is probably psychologically poisoned or ... you know, stupid.

Don't try to press me into a philosophical debate as the natre of Evil, I'm not buying it.

I highly doubt someone from 3000 years ago even had the cognitive function or even just the word for interpretation.

I clearly stated that genesis is wrong from the first few sentences. You failed to address that because you have nothing.

> Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

>3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

This is in the wrong order and if you can't see how obvious it is that ancient people with no fucking clue wrote that to explain things they didn't understand, you are clinically retarded.

>carbon dating

yeah man... they sure are...

I pray Jesus helps open your heart

So what you're telling me is that none of the magic actually happened.

I know, that's why I don't base my life around it. It's an ancient myth.

were you there?

Why don't you try talking about things you can be reasonably sure are true or at least verifiable?

really makes you think

Ancient civilization, no magic required.

huh, really makes you contemplate your neurons

More importantly and because I'm curious, why are only two labeled? Where are all the others from?

thx that really made me theink

mostly from south-america, sumer and mesopotamia

Yes, the Atlanteans and their diaspora. They weren't magic.

Do you know the name of the Ecuadorian version of Apkallu? I'm trying to verify that this god is indeed featured both in Mesopotamia and South America, but I need that first.

atlantisbolivia.org/boliviaandthesumerianconnection.htm

What I am telling you, clearly, is that it is all based on belief. There's no evidence he did or didn't do it, none at all. Belief, which seems to be something you can't grasp the concept of. It sounds more to me like you're a militant atheist who is angry that people believe things you don't.

>Words are like, abstract and stuff, so you don't really know what they mean