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First for fuck you EA
More like: EA fucks you
Betheda up next. Who's ready for absolutely nothing
I don't even know what they are
>You'll never fight for the Republic with your brothers and die a glorious death
We'll get stuff at Celebration next month I hope
How is Lost Stars?
Great, one of the best of the new canon.
One of the best things in the new canon, across all mediums. It makes the Empire way more three-dimensional and even makes the Rebellion more gray - the destruction of the Death Star is detailed to have been just as awful as the destruction of Alderaan.
It's really good.
EA says they're listening to the fans and that their Star Wars dreams will come true. If this is true, which I know it isn't, I expect EAfront 2 to have prequel era, The Clone Wars, Rebels, sequel era, single player story campaign, local multiplayer story campaign, online multiplayer story campaign, land to space battles, fifty maps on twenty different planets, twenty-five different game modes, Battlefront 2 play style, over one-hundred different vehicles, and no paid DLC. I'd pay $60 for that.
They confirmed it's just OT + TFA
Wish I was joking, but what can you do.
I realize here I've never touched Fallout.
This.
Fucking source on that cAnon. I swear to god if that's true
Numerically it can't be, unless Alderaan (a whole planet) was barely populated and the DS was a military installation and literally used to end a whole planet. The loss of all that life would be tragic, but fuck it. The station had to go.
It's true. Why would he lie? After all, ALMOST NOTHING WAS SHOWN
To piss me off? Like you said, nothing was shown.
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>A solid decade-plus of games that were just PT-era
>WHY AREN'T WE GETTING MORE PT STUFF NOW
Fucking Christ, the late 90's to the 2010's wasn't fucking enough for you? Why are so many people acting like PT material is some sort of disfranchised era just struggling to survive when before the Disney buyout that's what 95% of the fucking EU stuff was for literally more then a decade.
I don't have a source, they said it about a month back when they first announced a 2017 sequel, so dig around there if you want to see for yourself. Said that not only did they have the classic battles of the new trilogy, but that they also have locations from the new movie to work with. Maybe Rogue One is included in that, but nothing else will be.
Then in todays """""""footage""""""", we just saw more OT stuff, and a picture of a First Order TIE Fighter. They also teased the Trench Run. The lady introducing the clips just said they would use the Sequel Trilogy too. No mention of anything else.
On the plus side, it looks like BF2 will get a campaign.
But yeah, no Clone Wars. Unless they're just, not telling us about it. But I don't see why they would hide it, but be open about the TFA content.
>People love the prequels/prequel era now
What happened?
>classic battles of the new trilogy
*Original trilogy. They said Original Trilogy + New movies. Just clarifying that.
The only movies out between now and then are Rogue One and TFA. There will probably be Episode 8 DLC, but they wont be allowed access early enough to make content for it at launch.
New canon prequel era
> The Clone Wars and the unfinished episode adaptations
> Obi-Wan and Anakin comic
> Kanan comic
The rest is OT or ST. That's why, huge chunk of not knowing what happened combined with hate leading to ignorance.
The Clone Wars
The kids who grew up with them use the internet now. So theres a lot more prequel lovers out there than before.
Plus the new trilogy is bringing a lot of people into the franchise who were there before. The prequels have a more "modern feel" probably appeal to them better.
It's actually somewhat refreshing to see people loving the prequels after almost two decades of hate. Plus, it's really great to finally see people no longer regurgitating the Plinkett shit as if they came up with it themselves.
Canonicity is irrelevant. From a media standpoint we were blitzed with it from the Episode 1 release to a few years after the Disney buyout, you don't get to pretend that's not what Star Wars was for that entire time because that stuff "isn't canon."
You have been more then well-served for a very long time, whining every time you aren't because Disney doesn't want to focus on it now is ridiculous.
Them acknowledging that it exists would at least be nice.
>Them acknowledging that it exists
Does the Clone Wars cartoon not count?
What about Rebels?
> Disney made the clone wars
> implying Disney gives a shit about their TV shows
By this logic, we shouldn't have OT-era stuff at all. I know people like to pretend OT merchandise, games, etc disappeared completely during the prequels but they were still there.
It has nothing to do with it being made by Disney. Clone Wars was canonized by Disney, they kept that team on for Rebels, it's not going away anytime soon.
I'm just fucking tired of PT aesthetics, and them moving away from that is nice. Some time away from it might make me warm back up to that stuff after a little bit.
>implying Disney gives a shit about their TV shows
What's that have to do with fucking anything? It exists, it airs on tv, it has Clone Wars and prequel characters. Meaning they are acknowledging them.
> I know people like to pretend OT merchandise, games, etc disappeared completely during the prequels but they were still there.
Barely. A handful of games and comics, that's what we got.
Well that's not entirely true, we also got to see the books go down the toilet with the Vong and everything afterwords. So that was something.
>I know people like to pretend OT merchandise, games, etc disappeared completely during the prequels but they were still there.
It was really only during movie years that the prequel stuff dominated. Hell, 2004 saw a huge push for OT stuff to coincide with the DVD release, to the point of the toy line being branded "The Original Trilogy Collection" and prequel items being entirely excluded from it (until the final waves of it, which were in early 2005).
>EA says they're listening to the fans and that their Star Wars dreams will come true
>Meaning they are acknowledging them.
Disney had nothing to do with TCW, at all.
Does anyone know what era the Freemaker Adventures take place in? Early in the Empire era, or lete, like Rebels?
(I know that Lego SW has a LOL-whatever chronology, but I'm curious.)
None because it isn't canon.
I hate the prequels, but darn it... it's the best ERA for storytelling. Gobs of Jedi and imperial characters and a span of years with battles raging all over the universe. It's easy to tell stories during the prequel era!
Whereas in the OT you have to be careful nto to disturb anything.
The sequel era could have been ripe for new possibilities, but sadly they had to fuck it all up and return it to the status quo of the OT.
Granted, I'm pretty sure the old EU did the same thing, but still, it's lazy and restrictive.
Hey, the prequels weren't all bad, nothing is 100% terrible.
If nothing else you can enjoy the music, the action and Ewan McGregor.
Chopper assisting in bringing down Rebel scum.
>The sequel era could have been ripe for new possibilities, but sadly they had to fuck it all up and return it to the status quo of the OT.
I rewatched TFA last week and I've got to say... I think there WAS a New Jedi Academy era. They make it sound like Luke just too two kids off and Kylo turned evil and it was his first time training anyone, but if you watch Rey's flashback it sure looks to me like there were a lot of adult Jedi killed.
But we eon't get stories really explorign that until this trilogy is over because no one wants to step on its toes.
Alderaan was a seditious haven of 5th column traitors while the DeathStar was just put in place as the fulcrum of galactic peace and stability. It would be as if every installation that had nukes was suddenly destroyed.
Insurrections are quickly put down, except when they're propped up by outside powers, frankly even Alderaan wasn't enough to be propping up the Rebellion. The Empire had just crushed the separatists and those that would seek independence, to make sense either massive force in the unknown regions would be helping the Rebellion in anticipation of it's own rise (thus the new trilogy bad guys) or the Emperor himself was helping it in order to have an excuse to militarize and further maintain his ultimately insecure (dictator like Stalin, not a secure Monarch, big difference) hold on power. Rebellion wasn't heroes, they're stupid pawns murdering lawful pawns.
The fans who were given the shaft by Ep. 1 grew up and calmed down. Once the dust settled and people were able to see the prequels as simply movies rather than events, it allowed for us to fairly assess their overall quality.
Nothing changed though, the prequels have always had their fans and with some of the EU material (namely Clone Wars, but also video games like Battlefront 2 and Republic Commando), people have realized that the prequels were never ALL bad and that good stuff can come out of them.
But some people will simply write that whole era off as entirely terrible, and there's nothing we can do about that.
I used to be one of those people.
>But some people will simply write that whole era off as entirely terrible, and there's nothing we can do about that.
You can like the era and some of the EU stuff while also thinking the movies were complete shit.
I'm sorry, but no amount of revisionism or Internet hot takes will change people's opinions on those movies. Hell, there was that wave of articles trying to defend the PT right before TFA came out and people rejected them, because people still think those movies are bad.
Building an interesting universe does not justify the quality of those movies. I don't watch movies for lore, it's not an RPG setting.
Between Empire and ROTJ
>while the DeathStar was just put in place as the fulcrum of galactic peace and stability
Go to bed Tarkin, you're drunk. The Death Star was literally made to be used to kill and the original designers of the damn thing were eradicated by the Empire once their usefulness ran out. That station was designed for fear and was controlled by a madman that killed billions of innocent civilians that had nothing to do with the Rebellion in the first place, and if the Death Star wasn't destroyed it would have killed other planets in a show of force as well. The Death Star and Alderaan are two completely different things, one was an actual planet that had billions of years of history, countless cultures and was a member of the galactic community for hundreds of millennia.
Yes, the Death Star did have innocent Imperial workers that some didn't know what they were doing, but at the end of the day the DS was nothing more than a mobile kill laser that was commanded by people that have no qualms about killing billions of innocent live to prove a point. This thing wasn't used for anything other than slaughter.
>Between Empire and ROTJ
Hmm. Interesting choice.
Know or speculating?
This.
>Canon
You mean like mobile gaming crap they're pushing out? If it's clearly identifiable as star wars and enjoyed by the wider fanbase of star wars fans then, boom, it's FUCKING STAR WARS. Go choke on pope mouse's dick you papist fuck, while actual fans enjoy star wars
I am currently reading Heir to the Jedi and am curious as to what Sup Forums thinks of it.
the movies were a massive letdown but the prequel era was fucking top tier. The technology and clone troopers and political situation etc etc was all really good.
>You can like the era and some of the EU stuff while also thinking the movies were complete shit.
I never said you couldn't.
>I'm sorry, but no amount of revisionism or Internet hot takes will change people's opinions on those movies.
Dude, literally anything can change anyone's opinion, it's entirely subjective.
>Hell, there was that wave of articles trying to defend the PT right before TFA came out and people rejected them, because people still think those movies are bad.
Holy shit, I'm gonna need a citation on that, especially on the
>people still think those movies
part.
>Building an interesting universe does not justify the quality of those movies
Never said that shit either, but the EU stuff can draw attention to the movies themselves and make people see them differently. Sometimes, that's the entire point of having EUs.
Pretending Alderaan was innocent and it's PTB weren't founding member of the Rebellion
They're seriously pretty good movies.
Only spergs hate them.
>I'm sorry, but no amount of revisionism or Internet hot takes will change people's opinions on those movies.
There are people who won't ever change their minds, but that doesn't mean everyone. It's been uncool to like the prequels for years, but lately even that's changed.
Most of the people you still see shouting EPISODE 1 WAS SHIT JAR JAR WAS THE BIGGEST ABOMINATION LUCAS MUST DIE FOR WHAT HE DID are latecomers to the whole thing who are cargo culting because they know it's the popular thing to do. Do these people secretly like the prequels? No, I think they're sincere in their dislike, but they're exaggerating their reaction because that's the cool thing to do. They saw the people who experienced the disappointment firsthand and their reactions and they're just repeating it without having actually experienced that disappointment themselves. They grew up hearing that the prequels were bad, later watched them and realized they were, but their loud, angry, offended reaction is insincere.
As loaded as this word's become, the sad truth is that prequel hating became a meme.
It's been confirmed as such.
I don't know about good, but they're definitely not as bad as people make them out to be. Even Jar Jar isn't as bad as people make him out to be- he's annoying and has very little role in the movie beyond comic relief, but he's not the worst thing ever to appear in a movie. Hell, he's not even the most annoying Star Wars character.
Man, I was wondering where Jade Raymond disappeared to after a million Assassin's Creed fanboys started jerking off over her.
>Pretending the Empire and Emperor Palpatine was a great institution with sound leadership
No. The Empire as a whole was a mess of a organization that couldn't stand on its own as a government once its leader died and was rife with nepotism and poor leadership. I'm not saying the Rebellion was a purely virtuous body, but it had the best intentions at heart. The Empire was purely made so a Sith Lord can have his own personal Fear/Anger/Hate/Suffering Generator to amass more power for himself. Their leader himself never really cared for the people under him and seen them as pawns.
>The Empire as a whole was a mess of a organization that couldn't stand on its own as a government once its leader died
The Empire really should have had a chain of command. I wonder if Palpatine thought he was going to live forever or if he just didn't care about what happened to the Empire after he died.
Probably a little of both: ideally he'd figure out a way to live forever, and if not, fuck the galaxy.
Thank you!
Honestly speaking, my only beef with the PT was the oversaturation going on at the time. I mean, up until the ST, it was the most fresh in the minds of the public, so of course they were going to churn as much as they could from that era until it became unprofitable. That, and I never was all that big on the overemphasis on the Jedi.
It's not that I hate it; I just got burned out after a while. It happened right around the time The Clone Wars went on the air (I'm still trying to catch up on that). Even now I still have a little ambivalence towards the prequel era, but not enough to actively bash it. I still appreciate what it brought to the table
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>fuck the galaxy
He literally did that. It was called Operation: Cinder. It was in the Shattered Empire comic.
>no temple horns
I can't believe half of the comments I've been hearing.
>inb4 muh clone wars
More often than not it's spaghettio-encrusted faggot children who barely had to endure/ actually enjoyed the complete onslaught of prequel shit for a decade. I'm sick and tired of the Clone Wars. I'll admit that I'm not the biggest fan of EA and that Battlefront EA had a rocky start, because it was rushed. But they are actually making astronomical efforts to listen to what the community wants and decide what they can and cannot use in the current game. For months I've been hearing people complain about topics that were shown to be delivered in the teaser today, such as:
>Bossk
>A new planet with a ton of maps
> A new hero that isn't fucking Nien Nunb
>A more diverse selection of playermodels
> More/better changes and fixes to Fighter Squadron
>Space Battles
>Trench Run
>Star Destroyer Bridge
>Getting into Vehicles on the map as opposed to the ridiculous power up system.
>etc.
Again, people have been asking for these for months now, and people are still find something to complain about, even when they said months before and continue to state daily that Battlefront 1 will be focusing on the OT because these thick-skulled imbeciles just can't seem to fathom why there's no Clone Wars.
Please, for the love of God, try to be optimistic about something for fucking once.
I compared the Emperor to Stalin so I'm not pretending the Empire isn't it's own mess (a repeat of Octavian to Sheev's Julius with a restored puppet senate would be the best case scenario). I also think Kant's foundation for his metaphysics was his mistake, good intentions are meaningless at best and pave the road to hell at worst, all it does is blind people with self righteousness rather than enable them to question their own stupid shit. Rebels are sort of like 66AD Jews, which is why in star wars they have to be backed by something bigger since they're not curb stomped.
>Bossk
Wait, what?
Watch the battlefront segment of the video again, user.
Oh, sweet!
That sounds an awful lot like anti-Imperial talk
And yet it's STILL a step down from Battlefront 2. So no, shill, I will not be optimistic
rebel scum
rebelscum
rebels cum
>I also think Kant's foundation for his metaphysics was his mistake, good intentions are meaningless at best and pave the road to hell at worst, all it does is blind people with self righteousness rather than enable them to question their own stupid shit.
That I can understand, the Rebellion needed less talk and more action when it came to their goals in making a better tomorrow. Just saying you're going to make a better galaxy isn't going to cut it and it didn't, from what we've read about the NR.
Me, not being a loyal Imperial citizen? It's more likely than you think.
The long trailer has Leis in her Hoth gear and Lando hanging around with Chewie.
The window for those two things happening at the same time is pretty definite.
And Battlefront 2 was a step down from Battlefront 1. If you don't believe me, explain;
>No aerial vehicles except for on godawfully boring space maps
>Uninteresting looking/ horribly unbalanced classes.
>Smaller yet emptier maps
> Smaller max players
>Horrendous AI
>No commands
>Overpowers AS FUCK heroes
Need I say more? Next time do more research before you glorify your favorite childhood gameas a masterpiece, kiddo.
>that spoiler
Please come this way sir, we'd like to talk to you
>Lego Shadows of the Empire
>not liking the space battles over the shitty on planet ships
>not liking the classes that both teams got equally
I'll give you the maps.
>not wanting smooth online play
I've never had a problem with the AI
>not pressing the d pad to give your troops commands
>not liking a time limited OP stretch
Need I say more? Get your shit taste out of here.
>damage control
>doesn't explain how my points are wrong
And you say I have shit taste.
Sure man, that boom-box you're carrying means you're totally just a couple of cool dudes looking to start a dance troupe. I'm in.
people calmed down and started thinking critically/contrarian.
some realized they were shit movies but liked some aspects of the universe(i.e the lore). others still appreciated the good parts of the movies.
Battlefront 1 had more memorable maps, there was always something special on each one. College was fun.
> absolutely explains that you're wrong
> still denies
Wew lad
>states opinions
>passes off as fact
Wew lad indeed.
>implying you didn't do the same thing
WEW LAD
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Are we still /vg/ing?
Talk about the 1986 Droids cartoon.
Calm down fellas, neither game was perfect.
Can I be Mr. Krabs?
>argh! Battlefront 2 was far superior!
>BIG
>MEATY
>UNBALANCE
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Old republic was shite
I have a theory that the closer any expanded universe story is, chronologically, to Return of the Jedi, the worse it is.
It's not unfounded, though there's some great stuff after ROTJ. As a whole though, the post-ROTJ EU is probably the worst, with those little nuggets of greatness as the exception.