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I like how she's completely bordered by jpeg artifacts. It gives a nice retro feel.

>MODOK is evil
I liked him as good guy in secret avengers...

But he is a good guy. A good guy designed only for killing.

>she goes on the Wikipedia
Fucking casual

That's stupid. People remember shit before their first appearances because they have backstories.

He doesn't have much detailing his past before Cap. He hasn't a pre-Cap backstory, yet.

Yeah come on Hastings. Pull out an obscure reference or some shit. Just ask Ewing for help.

...does Batroc have a backstory though?

So Sup Forums is gonna stop caring about her once Gurihiru is off the book, right?

There should still be inner logic at play.

Sup Forums might but I won't

Who is the new artist?

Depends on who is replacing them.

but the moment a character is created, his backstory is retconned into existence, meaning that they will have history in that universe.

This is dumb, everytime they try to use the comic book awereness gimmick they just create plotholes

IIRC he does NOT have a backstory!

there is. He's a comic book character.
At some point he'll get his memories, but as of right now, he doesn't have them

characters have complete backstories before they are introduced.

Even if they mention something like '' he worked for hydra once'' you can fill the void of a lifetime right there

Irene Strychalski is doing #5

I'm going to say yes, at least I do, the artwork is good for cute elements, but the story feels kind of meh, everything is average, it reads like a webcomic

remember she's breaking the fourth wall: until the character actually gets his backstory, they don't have one as long as she's involved. Unless the story she is in involve said backstory.

This is the same universe where the Comics Code Authority seal can keep underwear from breaking.

no, they don't unless an author give them one.

Eh, she's not that bad.

>there is. He's a comic book character.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT INNER LOGIC IS MOTHERFUCKER?

Fourth Wall Breaks break Inner logic, is what I'm saying

yes they do, you just can't create a character out of nowhere and make it appear on a marvel comic.
Besides to this comes off as lazy writting to be honest, like not writting characters for the sake of making a joke.

did that "cute" shitposter actually convince you guys to follow this comic?

more like it creates plotholes that are excused by people saying ''fourth wall breaks break inner logic, anything is possible and mistakes are actually made on purpose!''

>Why doesn't SU defend itself from Sup Forums?

No, the good first couple Issues did.

That's literally the opposite of inner logic. Because in their world they are NOT comicbook characters.

I read those. I think they're crap

Fuck off then.

Yes good thing we all don't think alike

>, the good first couple Issues did.
We are talking about Gwenpool, right? Like I don't rememeber anything that funny from those two issues, I think that they did a better job on the Howard the Duck small stories

>yes they do, you just can't create a character out of nowhere and make it appear on a marvel comic.
yes, they can and they do. It's _REALLY_ common.

Batroc started as "French Savate master hired thug". THAT was his complete backstory at the time of his first apparition.

Unlike others, while his character did develop somehow over the years, he never got a detailed backstory. We know more of his ancestors than we do of his pre-Cap days.
(there is the chance I'm wrong and Batroc's past got detailed somewhere: then Hasting made a mistake. But the underlining reason still stands)

Except they are... they just don't know it. Well, with exceptions(Byrne's She-Hulk, sometimes Deadpool and Loki)

Remember, they had character actively pass through panels to move faster- their world IS a comic book.

Then feel free to not follow the comic. I enjoy Hastings Writing.

So wait the implication is characters don't even exist outside of either what they experience on panel or what's informed.
This could be some crazy Grant Morrison tier meta shit especially if you explored the idea of someone from an existence with an unbroken continuity trapped in an existence where continuity of perception jumps from panel to panel in 22 pages at a time, at the end of which you cease to exist until the next entrance in the story and essentially everything you know not experienced within those pages is a false memory.

>So wait the implication is characters don't even exist outside of either what they experience on panel or what's informed.
Obviously: they are comic book character.

And yes, analysing such thing would be quite interesting. I actually think somebody DID write something about that, too... Ellis, probably.

>they are comic book character
Well yes but they don't act as such, a character when asked about their past would be written as having a past, not draw a blank. Though does this mean Gwenpool has upset the order of things? Or am I overthinking it and Hastings just wanted to have fun with that idea?

>they just don't know it
Fucking exactly. Cause outside of certain characters and gags they have to rely on the logic of their world. Not everybody is Deadpool. A 4th wall break in any story doesn't mean that all bets are off.

With Grant I think he kind of summed it up with Limbo

Gurihiru leaves after this issue and so do I.

It's probably Hasting wanting to have fun, but it still fits previously established effect of 4th Wall Breakers.

Hell, it even fits Spider-Ham making a giant-ass tornado by swinging his arm fast: the idea one brings a little of their own universe rules with them, affecting the immediate area

Deadpool breaks the 4th Wall mostly by chatting up references.

Better would be Byrne's She-Hulk for referencing how 4th Wall Breakers can simply ignore in-universe logic and rules and work by Rule Of Comics.

>Unlike others, while his character did develop somehow over the years, he never got a detailed backstory.

Yeah but is still retarded as hell.

Just because we never read a detailed backstory about him it doesn't mean that when a character starts investigating about him his story is not going to be there, that would be the moment in which we are told about his backstory.

But somehow, he has no backstory because Gwenpool is there?

It doesn't makes sense, it makes sense that Gwenpool doesn't have a backstory, not the other guy

>Hell, it even fits Spider-Ham making a giant-ass tornado by swinging his arm fast: the idea one brings a little of their own universe rules with them, affecting the immediate area

why? they are not in their universe anymore, toon physics should adapt to super heroe physics, unless we are talking about a reality warper or a god.

Sounds kinda like when Morbius was fighting the newspaper strip Spider-Man

So who else is going to buy the Gwenpool plush they are making?

He doesn't have one because Gwenpool is "external", not normally part of the universe, so what usually would trigger a retcon generating a past not happens.

Well, everybody is a little part of their Eternity.
I guess they bring their physical rules with them to some degree.
Cartoon Ultimate Spider-man could chibi-fy even outside his universe, which should have been impossible.

That should have been actually printed in the newspaper strips. It would have been great.

I won't, I'm not virgin.

>He doesn't have one because Gwenpool is "external", not normally part of the universe, so what usually would trigger a retcon generating a past not happens.

has been explained that she is in her own universe?

that still sounds like a cop out, by that logic even the person in the costume shop would not have a past

>He doesn't have one because Gwenpool is "external", not normally part of the universe, so what usually would trigger a retcon generating a past not happens.
That's a completely made up and arbitrary rule.

Does he still like Maria Hill?

>Well, everybody is a little part of their Eternity.
>I guess they bring their physical rules with them to some degree.
>Cartoon Ultimate Spider-man could chibi-fy even outside his universe, which should have been impossible.
>

then how come that Gwenpool is not making the universe normal? That she can be near explosions withoout going deaf or getting PTSD? Making people lose their powers and act like normal real people?


See, that's what I keep saying, Gwenpool fans use all kind of mental gymnastics to try to explain how the breaking the fourth wall thing explains every plot hole while ignoring that even those explanations create more plot holes

>>has been explained that she is in her own universe?

what do you mean?

>that still sounds like a cop out, by that logic even the person in the costume shop would not have a past

She doesn't, unless somebody wrote her one in another book.

It DOES explains everything and is consistent with Byrne's She-Hulk shenanigans.
Whether she can affect the 616 because she's from another universe(cfr. Spider-Ham and Cartoon Ultimate Spider-Man) or because she can break the 4th wall(cfr. Byrne's She-Hulk) isn't clear.
But she satisfies both conditions for characters to affect the Universe that way.

Just a Gwen hating queer then?

>It DOES explains everything and is consistent with Byrne's She-Hulk shenanigans.
>Whether she can affect the 616 because she's from another universe(cfr. Spider-Ham and Cartoon Ultimate Spider-Man) or because she can break the 4th wall(cfr. Byrne's She-Hulk) isn't clear.
>But she satisfies both conditions for characters to affect the Universe that way.

just because that happened in another comic it doesn't mean that the same logic applies here, we are talking about different characters and stories, if I have to make a ton of mental gymnastics just to understand a simple comic that means that the writter is failling hard

>wikipedia
>not Marvel wikia
gwenpool confirmed for turbopleb

That last panel is extremely exploitable.

There is liking a female character then there is acting like a virgin user.

It's like you want her to die.

>He doesn't have one because Gwenpool is "external", not normally part of the universe, so what usually would trigger a retcon generating a past not happens.
There's no reason for this. Gwenpool should be operating on different rules than other characters. Breaking the 4th wall is her whole schtick but now the 4th wall is being somewhat acknowledge by someone who should be working on internal rules and not external.
Like, Galactus explained retcons happen because of the fluidity of time Gwenpool on the other hand would just say that retcons are retcons. Characters that aren't Gwen (or Deadpool) should be operating based on Galactus' explanation.

>then how come that Gwenpool is not making the universe normal? That she can be near explosions withoout going deaf or getting PTSD? Making people lose their powers and act like normal real people?
Obviously there is a limit to the effect.


>See, that's what I keep saying, Gwenpool fans use all kind of mental gymnastics to try to explain how the breaking the fourth wall thing explains every plot hole while ignoring that even those explanations create more plot holes
You see, I've noticed that people who were raised on American cape comics have a really hard time to understand 4th wall breaking the in-universe rules.

Having been raised on Italian Disney comics, where people around the world know of Mickey because they read his comics and Donald can save the day by throwing a all-devouring alien outside the story, I have no problem whatsoever.

>f I have to make a ton of mental gymnastics just to understand a simple comic that means that the writter is failling hard
It's really simple to understand: they are comic characters, so until a writer give them a background, they don't have one.

Everything else is just fun to no-prize it in the greater scope of the whole continuity

Why people keep referring to Deadpool? Except on references he never actually break the fourth wall like She-Hulk did!

Okay

I like getting laid user, buying a gwenpool doll will reduce the posibilities of that happening often

You're making bad choices

remember everytime something is being retconned by a new flashback? This is why the inner logic doesn't work on a 4th wall breaker character. Because they ACT like they have a history but they don't until they are given one

I might. Story isn't going where I thought it could.

>Obviously there is a limit to the effect.

1. So she can have effec on a characters complete lack of backstory but having effec on her own physics is too much?

2. This people from different universes affect other universes has been stablished on Gwepool or is more of your mental gymnastics/head canon to excuse the bad writing?

>It's really simple to understand: they are comic characters, so until a writer give them a background, they don't have one.

bullshit, they have backstories, she is not jumping into literal comic books, she is in the MARVEL UNIVERSE.

It means that people think that they are in the real world for them.

see: > Because they ACT like they have a history but they don't until they are given one
That is the same with literally every fictional character. But you're right they ACT like they have history just like they ACT like they're not fictional characters.

good choice: spending money on weed so I can get girls in the mood when they visit me.

bad choice: having a gwenpool plushie or some shit in my room like a little girl, not sexy, dick not getting wet.

>they are comic characters, so until a writer give them a background, they don't have one.
Same with every single fictional character. Harry Potter characters are just characters in a novel but if Rowling had written someone asking about one of their childhood they wouldn't have gone "Uhhh I don't have one" cause they're characters that exist in a universe not in a vacuum
If anything if someone wanted to know about Batroc's childhood GWENPOOL SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE CLUELESS ONE.

Why are you trying so hard to convince people that you have sex? It's having the opposite effect.

I'm trying to convice you that buying one of those dolls would mean that you don't have it.

I have never met a guy with a nomal life that was into ''waifu dolls'' , is the waifu part and spending physical space in your house for ''her''.

and not even a sexy poster or something normal, a freaking plushie??

I'm over 20, why would I want a fucking plushie? What can you do with it? ( fuck it ? I wish, that would be at least something usefull but not even that, get a flesh light dude)

1. I think local laws work until she actively goes against them. It would explain it.

2. I've referenced both Cartoon Ultimate Spider-man and Spider-ham doing things impossible outside their own universes.


People do, in fact, think they are real people.
But they aren't. They are comic-book characters, with all the limits of a comic book character.

True, but that would have needed a writer to actually write Batroc's background on the spot.
As the author didn't, Batroc doesn't have a past.

>True
Thank you. You're full of shit Hastings. He didn't even need to make up anything and just call on Ewing for some weird obscure reference like I said in the first place.

Okay user, I'm going to let you know something because you seem to be taking this way to seriously. it was a joke. I'm not going to buy a Gwenpool plush. It's not even a great book, I'm dropping it when Gurihiru is off.besides I only have sex at my bosses house when her husbands away.

>2. I've referenced both Cartoon Ultimate Spider-man and Spider-ham doing things impossible outside their own universes.

so you are just using head canon to excuse the poor writting? got it.

>True, but that would have needed a writer to actually write Batroc's background on the spot.
>As the author didn't, Batroc doesn't have a past.

the autor then fucked up.

again, it doesn't makes any sense that a character trying to find out about Batroc wouldn't have been able to.

He is part of a universe, the writter is just borrowing that character, not creating him our of nowhere.

That means that he should have a complete backstory if he is asked about it.

I just see it as slopy writing '' a character from the real world jumps into marvel comics! then because breaking the fourth wall rules one of the characters that was already living there has no backstory''

what? how does that makes sense?

it's simply a different type of storytelling.

Frankly, it's the first time there is a "real" character in the 616 knowing they are real.

Technically speaking, everything goes unless we get somebody telling us otherwise.

now who is lying about getting laid? lol

>it's simply a different type of storytelling.
Yeah. A shitty type. Cause it makes no sense.

Mark Millar's 1985 was about a little kid jumping into comics and comic book characters jumping outside.

>Technically speaking, everything goes unless we get somebody telling us otherwise.


No, user, that's not how writting and stories go. Stories should have some sort of inner logic or things fall apart.

That reminds me of Bleach, characters used to jump all over the place and suddenly everybody knows how to fucking fly, like no explanation, they all knew all along.

Everything goes, right??

Says the guy that had to post about his non-existent sex life three times to make himself feel better.

Gwenpool is op. Plz nurf

What's she gonna do once the current stat quo changes?

>good choice: spending money on weed so I can get girls in the mood when they visit me.
Oh wait, it's you. Hi Megafag, how've you been?

Did he ever give Cap that autograph?

someone is mad and jelly that I get laid and you don't.

Again, what can an adult do with a fucking plushie? Why would I want it?

inbefore ''I didn't want it, its just a prank bro 4 posts later''

>Mark Millar's 1985 was about a little kid jumping into comics and comic book characters jumping outside.
I kind of hate Millar and haven't read it, so I'm not commenting on it.

Does that negates something?


>No, user, that's not how writting and stories go.
this is a NEW SITUATION(unless Millar's 1985), so unless we are told something is impossible then if it happens it means it's possible, not an error.


remember they ARE in a comic book, they just don't know it: unless a writer does write their past, they don't have it.

when will they go back to the other artist, and people stop caring about gwenpool?

The Judy Hopps fleshight you got doesn't count as getting laid.

>has a flesh light
Why do you need to get laid then?
And why are you on Sup Forums if you hate cheap pointless merchandise?

>>has a flesh light

I don't, because I get laid and I don't buy plushies as a 20something dude.

I don't know wht that is

Sure ya don't buds.

hey, I'm not the beta boy making plans about buying plushies as grown ass man, that says more about you, kiddo.

s-storytime please

Okay user. Maybe you should just take a break, spit in your fleshlight and go to town. You'll feel better after.

>this is a NEW SITUATION(unless Millar's 1985), so unless we are told something is impossible then if it happens it means it's possible, not an error.
When writing some things work. Some things don't. I think there's a compelling argument for why this didn't work.