What was the most destructive period in film in terms of removing cinematic flair and destroying moral and intellectual...

What was the most destructive period in film in terms of removing cinematic flair and destroying moral and intellectual narratives and replacing them with clean, boring style and plot-driven mindlessness and why was it the 80s?

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>thinks the 80's destroyed film culture more than capeshit
kys

Not an argument

Mid-2000s onward.

the 40s

Shut up Griffithfag

>destroying moral and intellectual narratives
Such films have always been a tiny minority.

One of the biggest movies in the seventies was the Godfather, a moral subversion of the gangster genre and the beginning of stylized realism

Blockbusters of the 80s were the Star Wars movies and action schlock

wasn't full metal jacket in '87?

Yes it did
And it's one of Kubrick's weakest movies

Filmmakers crying throughout decades:

00s,10s

>muh Edison patent

20s

>muh talkies

30s, 40s

>muh Depression, muh Hays code

50s

>muh lawsuits, now I can't own cinemas no more

60s, 70s

>muh television

80s

>muh blockbusters

90s

>muh fall of the Soviet Union

2000s

>muh technology

2010s

>muh piracy

Independence Day started it all.

The only people complaining about piracy are musicians and producers, directors just want people to see their movies.

It did, capeshit is the result, the 80s is the catalyst.

About the time Avengers became standard template for blockbusters.

>80s is the catalyst

Hardly. The 80s blockbuster is hardly any different from the 50s sword&sandal epic except it worked.

The directors have it wrong, the 70s were the anomaly, 80s were the return to normal.

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kino stopped being kino when the concept of the film franchise (as opposed to occasional sequels) really became set in stone

there was obviously star wars back in the 70s/80s, which fucking sucked, but the absolute plague of franchise flicks we suffer from today can be blamed on the matrix and LOTR.

Since when plot driven means bad? It's the most important aspect of a movie
Neat camera work is a bonus

>Since when plot driven means bad? It's the most important aspect of a movie
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i wouldn't base it on those two examples. lethal weapon, die hard, aliens, terminator, burton's batmens and all other sequel generators brought in the acceptance of franchises. name a trilogy or duology that occurs before the 80's.

>It's the most important aspect of a movie
No
The aesthetic invention and emotional response are much more important than "this happens then this happens then this happens then credits"

The Godfather and The Godfather Part II

The Dollars trilogy

The seventies was when music peaked to. Maybe we should treat the 70s like the 20s. We will never have a decade like it.

this is the only real answer

not a true trilogy as they don't correspond.

to add on to this, godzilla and james bond were the big franchised series that probably have encouraged the capeshit we see today.

Nigga do u even Hays Code?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code

Directors care about piracy as they want studios to see their money back so that they can make more movies in the future.

>producers care about piracy as they want studios to see their money back so that they can make more movies in the future.
ftfy

If you are just an industry director who takes random safe directing jobs, then sure. Ateur directors, like Tarantino, who want a specific vision very much care about their movies making their money back as its what allows them their freedom.

Even Guillermo Del Toro jokes about paying attention at the box office numbers.

>Ateur directors, like Tarantino
>steals every image from 70s mainstream, grindhouse, samurai and blacksploitation movies

user the only thing "auteur" about Tarantino is his screenplays. As a director he's a hack. A talented copycat.

>brings up tarantino
>REEEEEEEE
tarantino has his own production company so of course he would care about piracy. anyone who has stake in their production company would care about the piracy of their production. shit lucas is so apeshit about piracy he makes people sign off on the dvd's he distributes to the uso for troop tours.

>As a director he's a hack.
I dont know about that. He usually gets good performances, and they're usually well shot with good subtle camera moves.

>good subtle camera moves.
have you seen kill bill?

>this happens then this happens then this happens then credits

Also called "pacing"

>good subtle camera moves
But that's wrong. He locks down his camera most of the time, does over-the-top snap-zooms and pans or literally copies shots from other movies.