This destroys the liberal talking point. Every time. Manufacturing declined significantly since 2000? Use this chart. Illegal immigrants doing the jobs we don't want? Use this chart. GDP higher than ever! Use this chart.
But wait! >Manufacturing output is increasing in USA, and yet jobs are still in decline - this means all the job losses are due to productivity increases! Not so fast. Manufacturing output per capita is totally stagnant and the % of GDP derived from manufacturing is falling fast. What does this mean? Labor intensive industries have been outsourced while capital intensive industries are the only ones that remain.
the boomers are wealthier than any other demographic their capital gains income alone exceeds the MEDIAN household income in the OP, so explain how it's the boomers bringing the MEDIAN household income down? It doesn't since the majority of boomers will be retiring after 2014. Meanwhile, the last peak occurred in 2007 and the crisis was over by 2010.
Cheers Hillary brings more of But at least you get to have a richer 1% At least the stock market does better since the company earns more profits now that it hired Hardeep on an H1B to do your job for half your salary.
Adrian Jackson
>this destroys the liberal talking points
>clinton years amazing growth >bush years fucked it all up
>damn liberals Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Juan Brooks
fuck off
Joseph Stewart
LITERALLY LAUGHING MY ASS OFF
Sebastian Smith
CANT QUEEF THE LEAF
Carson Adams
>This kills the leaf
It's a sad commentary on the state of this board when the syrup shill gets threads dedicated to xim (not that xe didn't come running to shitpost, of course).
Jayden Gomez
shit wrong reply
Gavin Sanders
we were fighting a currency war with China fucknut, we had to devalue in order to keep what remained of our industries and employment for millions of americans across the heartland
meanwhile Obama doesn't give a single fuck, he just wants Malia to be able to spend it up on her Euro trip and get fat speaking fees from his crony buddy buddy relationships funneling into huge overvaluations of any kind of asset imaginable. Its a fuckin shitshow and Yellen is going to take the heat, not Obama next time we see you on Sup Forums isn't she you flaming faggot?
I thought you said the economy lagged policy you stupid fuck ya played yaself like a chump. only a shit tier shill argues against themselves
Andrew Roberts
I came here to declare victory. These right wing retards blew themselves out.
Tyler Williams
> meanwhile Obama doesn't give a single fuck
Obama gave me a strong currency which means everything is cheaper.. wtfI hate obama now.
Clinton was fiscally conservative desu. Modern Liberals generally either think debt is a good thing or completely ignore it
Luke Campbell
>everything is cheaper >except US products and services Wow, I thought you said you liked Trade? Exports are the currency you use to buy imports, otherwise there's a deficit.
Holy fuck, its amateur hour. How the fuck are you such a famous shill when I can demolish you in every post?
holy shit you're literally complaining about having a strong dollar right now. A strong USD is the best thing for America. STFU with your muh manufacturing meme. The economy is 75% service. Get over it.
Then in the next thread you'll make fun of dude weed lmao currency.
Who convinced you right wing retards that all service jobs are mad and only manufacturing jobs pay well? Seriously? What lord of tards told you this.
Eli Lopez
It does, your graph shows it. The question is not whether the economy does or does not do better under the democrats you stupid fuck. It has to do with the policies put in place that led to that occurrence. DUUUUHHHHHHH
Brandon Thomas
BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL
Jacob Wood
this is the correct answer.
>Let's BTFO the OBama Leaf by praising Bill Clinton
holy shit what a day
Jordan Lewis
So does it matter that our dollar is strong when 70% of the economy is based on internal consumption and only 16% is derived from imports NO!!!! IT HURTS US! It hurts because it leads to job losses. It doesn't matter how cheap imports become - UNTIL YOU LOSE YOUR JOB AND HAVE TO SHOP AT THE DOLLAR STORE!
Christopher Johnson
Leaf, we have large % of our population that is pretty much fit only for manual labor. Is it not the same in leafistan?
Elijah Ward
>It hurts because it leads to job losses
you better stfu before i destroy you some more
Evan Morgan
Harper fucked Leafistan pretty good desu. I want to move to America to take advantage of the thriving OBama economy. No joke. I wanna move to America.
help me?
Christian Gray
Incorrect. Clinton is the best friend of the super-rich, the elite, the one per cent, and in setvice to that friendship they attacked the rich but not super rich.
Cameron White
inb4 "le bush was le globalist jew leftist democrat" meme
Connor Davis
You mean like this?
Daniel Cox
I'm not going to argue the decline during Bush or the rise during Obama, but Clinton got lucky with the consumer tech revolution of the 90s that heavily boosted the US economy.
Hunter Cruz
Oh I know, let's try trickle down!
Jaxon Price
Those jobs being created are either shit tier, or not available to people without college degrees. There, I blew out your stupid 60% above average wage spike 2014 graph so you don't even need to post it.
Bush had even better tech in the 2000s he still mangled the economy bro.
Technological innovation is nothing new. I'm really tired of the muh dot com meme.
Adam Parker
How about trickle up for a change? Trickle down doesn't seem to work so good.
Anthony Thompson
>or not available to people without college degrees.
I have never denied that right wing retards are having problems because they're so uneducated.
Jonathan Green
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Oliver Peterson
is there an after-taxes median household take-home-pay chart?
Connor Mitchell
1 more for the final body blow
Chase Adams
>those jobs are either shitty or require a degree >jobs are either shitty or require a degree WELCOME TO REALITY
Daniel Lopez
>I'm really tired of the muh dot com meme. >I can't disprove it therefore it's a meme
Joshua Murphy
I'm supposed to disprove that Bush had better technology than Clinton?
Dominic Scott
so everyone in the country should get a degree? then we'll all be fine? how much does it cost for a degree? how about you get real. it seems like you've never left your suburb
Wow, people are voting in their best interests. And gee, why doesn't everyone just get a college degree?
Is this the famous liberal idealism I've heard so much about? When you going to join us back down here on earth?
Robert Lee
>right wing retards are strongly are against raising the minimum wage >right wing retards complain the minimum wage doesn't pay enough
You can't make this shit up.
Jack Stewart
I don't know if you're a democrat/liberal or a conservative, but let me just tell you this
Juan Peterson
>labour force participation rate at 40 year low >part time retail employment inflting job numbers >global financial crisis on our doorstep after eight years of kicking the can down the road
Your shilling is weak, leaf. Read a book nigger.
Sebastian Lopez
Middle class liberals with college degrees are so fucking snobby.
Dominic Brooks
Liberals: We bank jews, lab rats and nude artists now, that's where the real shekels are. Let juan, chang and ahmed do the minimal $ manufacturing stuff in their countries Your move Sup Forums
David Foster
so did you just concede that median income has fallen in part due to wages falling and unemployment rising for those w/o college degrees? because that is kinda our point. seems like youre back pedaling now. you think everyone should have a college degree? pay to play ponzi scheme?
Christopher Roberts
Do you not know what the dotcom bubble was?
Ryder Murphy
This is just becoming routine at this point...
>>part time retail employment inflting job numbers
Obama job creation is 95% full time.
Caleb Kelly
>>labour force participation rate at 40 year low
WHEN BABY BOOMERS RETIRE THEY LEAVE THE LABOR FORCE
Aaron Brooks
Unemployment is falling for those without college degrees but yeah right wing retards shouldn't expect not to finish high school and then land a great job like it's the 1960s.
Carter Kelly
Nothing compared to 9/11.
Jason Wilson
what year is it? can you remind me?
Brandon Sanders
In an ideal world, if you'll permit me to be an idealist like you for a second, there would be no minimum wage. There would be no borders and everyone could just work where they want on their own terms lah-dee-dah all is so free and nice.
But thats not reality. In reality, we have a border. And every day spics cross that border and live 10 to a room so they can make $3.50 an hour under the table to send back to their family in Mexico. Now you know why 'they do the jobs we don't want' includes framing, masonry, electrical, plumbing, tile work, carpeting - and the holy grail of teenagers back in the 1990s - landscaping. So some jobs are created to cater to spics. More hospital staff and educators for their numerous kids, obviously. But the money spics are making for their economy is a fraction of what a local would generate. The minimum wage needs to be revised upwards since everyone has a minimum wage job now. Businesses pass the increased cost on in the consumer and everything is back to normal. At the same time, we need to shut the fucking border and eject any criminal scum and give the rest social security numbers so they can get on the fucking tax roll.
Argue against that.
John Cook
look at the chart and tell me you're a right wing retard for saying
>and unemployment rising for those w/o college degrees
Caleb Stewart
What they don't tell you is 70-100% of all jobs created since 2000 have gone to immigrants and illegals. Not joking even liberals say it's around 70%
Nathaniel Johnson
So what? The reality of the US economy right now is that highly skilled labor is most in demand and it requires highly skilled people to do it.
The years of abundant high-paying low-skill labor are over and it has nothing to do with Reagan or Obama or whoever.
Coal miners get replaced by scientists and factory workers get replaced by machines. It was always going to be this way.
Dylan Barnes
Rich assholes bringing in cheap foreign labor instead of hiring Americans is a problem. You won't get any argument from me there.
because 100% of baby boomers who are retiring en masse right now are native born. The next demographic cohort is not as large hence why it was called a baby boom.
You mean the very same Bill Clinton that cut welfare? Hmm, looks like if you stop paying for people to do nothing they'll actually go out and get jobs.
Connor Butler
They don't take office until 2007. Fuck you right wing retards really know nothing about your own country. You should be fucking embarrassed.
Gavin Baker
Agree with your counter-argument. I think the split forces compromise so there is some back and forth going on there with policy
Luke Turner
Not an argument.
Triggered leaf is triggered.
Ryan Adams
>Coal miners get replaced by scientists and factory workers get replaced by machines. It was always going to be this way. That's not what is occurring. Jobs are being OUTSOURCED. That means that the labor is still being performed, it's just going to be performed elsewhere. We have to end outsourcing and bring back well paying industries. Carrier air conditioners and Ford trucks, and thousands of other factories that have been sent across the southern border and to Asia, only to produce the same products that are sold back to us at the same price. This doesn't save the consumer money, it increases profits for the owner/investor class and balloons the stock market at the expense of entire communities.
What do you do with all the people who do not have an aptitude for science? That's probably 50% of the population, put them all in gender studies class? Can we please get real? Is the government supposed to just take care of 50% of the country who will inevitably be poverty stricken? The next 19% won't be doing much better than them if we keep going at this rate.
A company needs a damn good reason to outsource. Increasing profitability IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
Hudson Sullivan
well there you go then lets make laws that put everyone on an even playing field then we can point fingers about who is abusing the law all day long.
Levi Ross
If a party wins the Congressional elections in 2006, when do they take office?
Nathaniel Bell
Lol so mad and so wrong.
Carson Bell
If we take 2007 as the starting point, it makes them look even worse in that graph.
Jordan Rogers
wow you're doubling down on being right wing retards. this is just sad now.
Thomas Williams
Doesn't change the fact that you right wing retards don't even know how your country works.
And when I ask you which supposed Dem policies Bush signed in 2007 to cause the Great Republican Recession that was caused by 6 straight years of GOP rule, you'll draw blanks.
Ryan Cruz
so whats your point though? That increasing retirement is causing the decline in MEDIAN household income? Even if their average income is significantly higher than the MEDIAN as an age group? See:
And once again resorting to ad-hominem without mentioning any actual defense outside of >muh those lines that you created on MS Paint do not exactly line up with the years they took power but still gives the exact same overall theme. I'm also going to ignore the 94 Republican Revolution where economy skyrocketed.
Bentley Foster
We were talking about the CLFPR.
Wages are rising. Get over it.
Jose Hill
If a party wins the 2006 Congressional elections, when do they take office?
Oliver Sanders
That was Allan Greenspan keeping interest rates low after the 2001-2002 recession.
It really has to do with the Fed. But, yeah, Obama was really a miracle maker with that Obamacare bill right? Really set the economy on the right path with that one. Insurance companies are richer than ever! Wish I had invested like Hillary inevitably did!
Camden Smith
It puts them taking office in the middle of that decline period. How is that worse?
Parker Walker
>"Average hourly earnings rose 2.5 percent year-over-year, a rate of growth in line with their six-month moving average" Are you fucking with me? How many times do I have to capitalize MEDIAN?
Jaxson Young
Fiscal policies don't exogenous shocks, on a structural level, within the context of rhythmic cyclical fluctuations that mainly occur every 8.2 years.
Seriously, read a book nigger. Thinking The president is master of the economy. Lmfao
Gabriel Diaz
This Vjd leaf is a master shitposter. Or a shill. I can't tell which.
Zachary Cook
Republicans predict failure under Democratic presidents. Then when Democratic policies succeed, Republicans try to take credit for it. That's your entire argument and it's pathetic.
jesus christ did you learn nothing from the last thread.
Changes in median income reflect several trends: the aging of the population, changing patterns in work and schooling, and the evolving makeup of the American family, as well as long- and short-term trends in the economy itself. For instance, the retirement of the Baby Boom generation should push down overall median income, as more persons enter lower-income retirement.
Aaron Diaz
@ ID: VjdqsPge Canada
Why do you come to Sup Forums despite such strong resistance to the obvious facts?
