Margaret Thatcher

Redpill me on Margaret Thatcher...why does everyone hate her?

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The epitomy of a cuckservative woman.

They really don't. Both Blair and Brown admired her towards the end of their career. New Old Labour love her because they're fucking socialists. She didn't go far enough in some areas and didn't have an intelligent monetary policy, (if only because she didn't have subservient Chancellors), but it's one of the few times in history that somebody on a fringe of a right-wing party was democratically made the head of government.

wow you are totally clueless

Not an argument.

There are legit reasons to dislike Thatcher: Right to Buy is good or bad for different people, and she took us into Europe wholesale.

She did eventually come to realise the great danger of the European project, which is why she was axed by the rest of the "Conservative" party.

However most of the hate to Thatcher comes from the North and Working Class, she continued policies from the 60s Labour government and basically the closure of a lot of mines and similar industry in the North led to huge amounts of unemployment.

It wasn't such a big deal in the 60s because the industry in general was still quite strong, and the economy was good, so when people lost their jobs they could find similar work or work in another industry quite easily. In the 70s however things were a lot worse so people couldn't walk from one job to another, and so all the North remembers Thatcher for is "muh mines"

Overall she was one of the better PMs, atleast of the last 100 years. She might not be a perfect conservative, but no candidate is really. The days of Toryism are long over and they aren't coming back, "Conservatism" is what we have left. Neocons took that over after getting rid of Thatcher and now British politics in general is just the domain of the Neocon Blairite.

>and she took us into Europe wholesale.
Firstly, the EU was clearly something very different back then, which is why the Tories supported it. Secondly, she was one of the biggest Euroskeptics in her party and opposed the creation of the Euro. What do you mean by this?

Like I said, once she realised the danger of the Europeanists and their agenda, she wanted to deal with it, which is why the Conservatives got rid of her.

In the 70s and early 80s however she was quite pro-european.

Brit leftists hate her because she shut down the mines

>why does everyone hate her?

They don't.

>In the 70s and early 80s however she was quite pro-european.
This was nothing but the common market back then, which classical liberals should have supported.

Because her skit based on "Yes Minister" was apparently not good.

And she betrayed Rhodesia, as Sup Forums would like to say.

>she took us into Europe wholesale.

Nope. That was John Major at Maastricht in '92. Thatcher was stabbed in the back by Europhiles like Heseltine precisely because she would not sign up to a federal europe.

>However most of the hate to Thatcher comes from the North and Working Class,

Thatcher took a majority of the working class vote in 1979, 1983 and 1987.

No-one should have supported the common market, unfortunately people like Powell, Foot, Shore and Benn were ignored by the Europeanists and the Marketeers.

The EEA was, by design, poison to the UK and ultimately the rest of Europe, and was merely part of the plan to bring about a pan-European superstate.

As others mentioned, she cucked the working class. She also cucked the country to the Saudis.

She also shielded child molesters in government (which is merely the tip of a rather large iceberg among the Western elite). But I guess when you have a vagina and a sharp tongue, it's okay. The Rotherham rapists and their apologists could learn a thing or two from her.

people hate her because muh mines or at least that's why people around me hate her.

>and was merely part of the plan to bring about a pan-European superstate.
Quite possibly, but I see nothing objectionable about the common market itself, which was the original goal. Also, almost nobody dislikes Thatcher for being too little of a Euroskeptic.

The beginning of the end for the working and lower middle classes, ultimately leading to a desire to ragequit the system (Brexit).

>ring-wing
>Thatcher

I suppose I should have said center-right, but she was clearly on the fringe of her party.

Are you telling me that nobody here recognises that the trade unions of the 70's were demanding raises which the country could just not afford at the time, so they were halting all production like dumb idiots, making it worse for themselves and the entire country.

The only people that hate her are celebrities who don't pay their taxes, people who lick the arses of said celebrities, and incredibly poor, universally undereducated failures within our society. Miners, for example, who couldn't understand the concept of being obsolete due to shifts in technological advancement.

That's coming from a Northerner btw

Thatcher was a hero, but the idiotic general public hated her and celebrated her death.

If it weren't for her, I daren't think of the state this country would have been in -and in the Euro!

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Leaf has more balls than my own countrymen ITT.

Her neoliberal policies were the beginning of decades of arse fucking, but even if you enjoy getting rogered, no one here should be making excuses for the child abuse coverup. It's utterly inexcusable.

being a child in the '90s I can't help but dislike the lady for getting rid of our lunch milk

all the older kids were always telling me about how they used to get lunch milk and I was mad jelly

Yes unfortunately unions ruin basically everything

they were an essential part of the line of communication running from common worker to the government

without unions, they have nothing to represent them and make their voices heard, which I think is more an issue of morale for the people

the working class have always been kinda feckless but at least back then they were happy about it, there's nothing worse than a demoralized pleb, they tend to end up addicted to drugs

She destroyed Sheffield Steel.

Among many other Northern Businesses.

Because it is easier to be a sophist than a philosopher.
Socialism wins with the uninformed emotion driven citizens.
It takes balls to take away free milk for kids.
She is a hero and wouldn't be swayed by the SJW's of her day.
I wish we could elect a president like her instead of the Hilldevil.

She gave Hong Kong back to China without getting anything in return or even making a good deal for the people who lived there.

Because she was probably a psychopath. At the very least she seemed lacking in any empathy, which led her to ignore the pain her policies would cause.

I'd say more than even the Miner's Strike, that's what causes the lingering hatred, as it just seemed like she saw everything as an academic exercise detached from reality.

Even if we take the Miner's Strike as an example, if you're shutting down the source of employment that entire villages depend on, you'd think there'd be some kind of support - retraining, encouraging new investment to create new jobs - instead, nothing.

That doesn't make sense. If there was a strike, that means they would be stopping their own employment, not Thatcher.

I'm not talking about the strike itself, I'm talking about the mine closure programme that caused the strike. I should've been clearer.

She was a cunt

That's not what started the strike. It was the ending of subsidies, which should have happened for operations that weren't profitable.

Yes, and they said to end the subsidies they needed to close twenty mines, which is what prompted the strike action, along with the suspicion that the plan was to close a lot more - which was proven right as the actual plan was to close over 70.

As for whether subsidies should've been ended or not - depends on their cost vs the cost of importing coal plus the cost of the poverty black spots that shutting the mines caused.