let's not forget, the retards who say that sandy hook was staged are also the retards who say that the US government did 9/11
>willing to kill 3,000 people in new york >willing to go to absurd lengths, including hiring 'crisis actors', to avoid killing 20-something people they genuinely believe both things are true
Ryan Peterson
>unintelligent, crude, and in very poor taste
Jace Nguyen
B-But that's just proving how unpredictable they are! We should all be more scared of the government now!
Colton Ortiz
show me the bodies columbine had security footage and pictures the only evidence at all sandy hook actually happened is that photo of """"""""""~300""""""" students apparently being rushed to safety and a bunch of shady characters saying it happened
Joshua Myers
theyre actors cant you tell
Jeremiah Hill
>appeal to emotion >implying it's impossible to tell kids to just act scared and cry Sandy Hook, as well as the Orlando shooting, were faked, and were just excuses to take our 2nd amendment away. If you don't care about your rights then move to some socialist Bernie Sanders utopia like Canada or something.
Levi Reed
You can tell they are fucking retarded or have problems so of course they are going to be crying. They're always fucking cry.
Joshua Bell
Explain to me how the killing of 20 children justifies the removal of the rights of millions?
John Moore
Who's doing this shilling ? FBI ?
Wyatt Diaz
>Respect them and respect the dead F
Wyatt Gomez
It doesnt, and the government isn't stupid enough to think it does. They don't fake shootings.
>ok guys we're going to deceive the world and use dead 5 year olds for political gains >oh but we still have to follow the rules If the government really had a secret plan, they would ensure that the resulting gun bills actually pass, not crash and burn.
Jackson Russell
hey hey hey, i was there. i was in stamford when it all went down i can tell you with 100% certainty that i dont really know anything
Grayson Morris
Cool strawman Ahmed, want to bring it to the White Houee?
Evan Nelson
>911 nice
>pic related (a face you can trust!) I know that if I were a school bus driver evacuating kids during a crisis situation... I'd CERTAINLY just stop my bus at the house of a creepy old jew and tell him >sir! You look like a man I can trust! Please, take these children, they are scared, I leave them with you! I've gotta go."
where he brings them in to play with toys he happens to have (from his grandson) and they then proceed to tell him stories about how >our teacher had blood comming out of her eyes, her nose...her EVERYWHERE!
...which he "faithfully" reproduces for the news cameras that interview him later ...several times.
David Gray
>If they try to take our rights away and fail, they're not trying to take our rights away These shootings are confirmed fake. It's not even a conspiracy theory. It's just a matter of whether or not you're willing to open your eyes and admit what you see.
You probably also think a plane hit the pentagon and created that tiny little hole.
Adam Adams
I can tell you I lived in Newtown from 98-2004 and dated a teacher at the school during some of that time. She messaged me over facebook when it happened. I hadn't spoken with her in years. Is this the extent "actors" go to?
Everything about the shooting is real.
Samuel Jackson
i see one girl crying and possibly one other. not exactly compelling evidence.
not to say i think sandy hook is fake, i have never bothered to take the time to look into it. have always just assumed it was real cuz who gives a fuck
James Morgan
Fucking shill. Your just like the people that say that they "lived in Sandy hook" for many years. Anyone have the picture compiling the shill posts?
Dylan Hughes
that's not what a strawman fallacy is, but thanks for trying
Thomas Brooks
Explain to me how some autistic, doe eyed autistic dipshit that couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag could nut up and blast an elementary school using assault rifles.
Dominic Torres
Lol they re arranged the kids for another photo op user. Look at the other similar pictures.
I think part of the psyOP is now sloppy and bullshit on purpose to divide the thinkers from the fucked.
Jose Phillips
What is her name? Screen shoot the DM's, provide more than anecdotal evidence of your claims. You'll ignore this like a total faggot, but any real evidence as to the legitimacy of these 'victims' would be appreciated.
Justin Green
>being wrong
Parker Collins
Yeah the kid in black tried running ahead of the group so he ended up in the front with the police officer holding him by his hand to ensure she could keep him in line. The other kid was scared and wanted to be right next to the other officer. That's completely logical.
Luke Carter
?
Tyler Roberts
Robbie Parker laughs at your conspiracy theories
Michael Campbell
ignore me then cocksucker.
Julian Rivera
>Kids we're going outside of the school for a while... by the way Dora the Explorer just died!
Aaron Thompson
>hear gunshots >alarms go off I don't see why you think it being fake would make the children less scared, it's extremely easy to fake a shooting within the school, not like if it was real the children would have seen all the dead kids
Luke Long
I don't have facebook chat logs from 2012.
Xavier King
IdahoPicker already busted this wide open ages ago.
Every psyOP hoax thread is derailed by (((people who family died))) the odds of people who family died in SH on Sup Forums are tiny. Same odds as a person being at MULTIPLE (((MUSLIM TERROR ATTACKS))) like that one guy. Finally, inbreeds cant really plan or pull off anything sophisticated. Its hilarious they are master terrorists and they put all this symbolism into the dates and places of attacks.
Henry King
They didn't do a great job taking away our 2nd amendament
Logan Kelly
Then what is her name? Who was this 'Teacher' friend that communicated with you during this 'event'?
Chase Barnes
I'm not giving you her name. She is still my friend and has been through enough. The last thing she needs is delusional conspiracy theorists berating her.
Daniel Watson
I don't doubt it didn't happen.
But it was still a False Flag. Where did the second shooter go?
Dylan Russell
>I DONT KNOW HOW HUMAN EMOTIONS WORK SO ITS A CONSPEERUHSEE
Eli Myers
>$0.50 was deposited into your account At the end of the day, don't you at least feel halfway guilty for being a professional liar? You realize habitual liars go to Hell, right? Is Hillary's shill-dollars worth that?
Rethink your life, man.
Xavier Walker
What I don't understand is the balance of manipulation, meaning what was the proposed benefit of attempting this shooting, what was the end game of potentially staging this shooting? It had no real impact on people, it was mentioned for a full day before the media moved on to something else. I think it was a dress rehearsal and a going thru the motions of a shooting to see if people would buy it. There were no real objectives accomplished (as far as perceived 'objectives') there was minimal coverage beyond the day of the event. What was the point of this event?
Jason Lewis
>goes on Sup Forums >tells someone else to rethink their life Sure thing bud
Xavier Peterson
Bullshit. It always cracks me up that every single newtwon thread has some dumb cunt pop up claiming they live there, or are intimately related to someone who does.
The gig is up faggot. I see you.
Liam Brooks
>yeah mate, I hear Caribbean hookers and good & cheap mate >gimme a sec, gotta get ready for that mourning speech
Anthony Carter
>IN A *REAL* EMERGENCY EVERYBODY STAYS IN NEATLY ORGANIZED LINES!!! lol every argument you people have is totally laughable
David Wright
(((research purposes)))
Xavier Lopez
Then you don't understand how it works.
It's not like one really tragic event happens and then they take away our guns.
It's the build up. Sandy Hook was a watershed event, since then, the media has consistently reported on dozens of "mass shootings" that otherwise would receive little to no attention because they're A) Inconsequential B) A statistical anomaly C) Serve no good purpose other than to rile people up over nothing
But with Sandy Hook, they got their orders from the kikes running things, and now all you hear about is "mass shootings." Washington is starting to breathe down the necks of everybody on the Second Amendment. Federal courts are starting to increasingly rule that our Second Amendment rights aren't rights after all. A prominent example being a recent circuit court that ruled that machine guns aren't protected by the Second Amendment.
It takes more than one tragedy to get legislation passed. But thanks to Sandy Hoax, the globalists are well on their way to disarming the US population. I'd give it 15, maybe 20 or 25 years, tops, before the Second Amendment is either repealed or so infringed and molested that it is simply a token Amendment like the right to not quarter troops in your home.
Jaxon Cook
The biggest evidence of it being fake was that the school was fucking torn down and built back up
Isaac Ward
>It doesnt, and the government isn't stupid enough to think it does. They don't fake shootings. Two words, Port Arthur
Aiden Jenkins
So, you have a 'friend' that you rarely stay in contact with, that supposedly worked at this school, that decided to reach out and communicate with you during this event, and you're not willing to provide any evidence, or proof of it happening and you've been browsing Sup Forums long enough to understand how to reply to posts?
Either you're a paid troll, an embedded government agent or a total fucking faggot, retarded, dragon dildo sucking homosexual that enjoys scat upon their heads. I'm going with the latter.
Brandon Jenkins
>thinking that this is impossibly unlikely but believing in MUH FAEK SHOOTINGE N CRISIS ACTORS TO TAEK AWAY MUH GUNS oh the ironing
Liam Bailey
>I don't know how acting works! ur just a conspiracy wingnut! there's no way this could ever happen the government are the good guys!
Xavier Lewis
Pictures [of the dead perp] or it didn't happen.
Michael King
underrated F
Austin Sanchez
This is the best case for false flag events. I feel bad for the autist they framed.
Easton King
>REAL GRIEVING PEOPLE ARE CRYING 24/7 AND NEVER SMILE AT ALL EVER!!! yup, totally how human emotions work. no way he was talking to somebody about something more lighthearted than dead children. why would somebody whose child just died try to experience positive emotions?
Angel Wilson
hey asshole, no one is trash talking Hillary so kindly fuck right off
Jace Diaz
This is by far the most fishy shooting, and I'm not sure I believe it really happened.
I know why the Columbine kids did it, I know why Breivik did it, I know why all the Islamic people did it, I know that James Holmes has genuine mental problems, I know why Roof did it, I know why Rodger did it, I know why Cho did it, why did Lanza do it?
I've seen his old forum posts and he says very little and is staunchly anti-violence.
Also the fact that he looks comically evil in his photos says to me that it might be fake. The only video of him EVER released was one where his face isn't shown and he's playing DDR.
Chase Smith
>LEAVE MY HUGBOX, THIS PLACE IS FOR PEEPL LIEK MEEEEEE
Ryder Parker
>Sandy "Hoax" threads are unintelligent, crude, and in very poor taste. says the guy denying the holocaust
William Foster
>confirmed fake I'd love to see the undeniable evidence and proof, not just Sup Forums screencaps and kids being in a different order in 2 separate pictures.
Adam Nelson
No one died at Orlando either.
Owen Hernandez
If Orlando was faked just to take our guns, then why would they use a Muslim? They would know that the majority of Americans will blame Muslims and not guns (which is what happened). I'm skeptical about Sandy hook, but there is no way Orlando was a psy ops for gun confiscation.
Asher Baker
But i thought you had a friend that proved it DID happen to you? Just die.
Jayden Thompson
>I'd love to see the undeniable evidence and proof lol so would they, it's why they have to cling to MUH SMILING DADDD and MUH LINES THAT CHAENG and act like it's weird to not release a bunch of pictures of mutilated children to the public
Camden Johnson
>But i thought you had a friend that proved it DID happen to you? probably why he's saying he'd love to see any real evidence... because he knows you dont have any lol
Austin Collins
Also, the burden of proof lies in proving something not disproving you cunt. Which if you werent a shill, you could actually do. Ie, show us the screens of a convo with this mysterious teacher.
>one day They dolled Sandy Hook up for over two weeks.
The reason they stopped hammering us with it is because during the event numerous things(multiple shooters-army clothing guy running into woods, Saiga w/ shells being ejected in the back of the car, people walking in circles) were recorded and exposed that still have no place in the official narrative.
Compounded with the information that's come to light surrounding the school(guy who lived across the school thought the school was closed, there's no survivors with their stories a'la Columbine, there's literally no information about the school whatsoever)
Along with the way they handled the whole thing afterwards(demolished school, non disclosure forms for everyone involved, going after Adam's brother who we've never heard from again)
Along with details(and lack of evidence) of the shooting (autistic with no former training shoots 22 kids and kills every one without a single bullet grazing other kids to leave any injured, with only two pistols)
All adds up to a very poorly executed false flag that doesn't get exposed because "much chilluns"
Liam Diaz
>the burden of proof lies in proving something so prove it was a conspiracy. oh wait that's right... you can't lol
Joshua Gonzalez
And this is when I realize that I'm "debating" something I know to be true with a conspiracy theorists with the name "Path of Light"
I knew Sup Forums was retarded but this is too much
Dominic Ward
Fuck, i aint seen a dead body. The documents we do have access to albeit heavily redacted, states that DNA found on some of the crime scene artifacts that belonged to someone in the new york prison systems database. These are valid issues, that could be shown with minimal hassle. Just release the un altered documents. Simple.
Benjamin Gutierrez
Holy shit the entire rebuttal to the "shills" in that image you posted was "the town is Newton, not Sandy Hook!" except well Sandy Hook is a fucking village in Newton - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook,_Connecticut
Jaxon Morris
Yeah, I bet these nutjob conspiracy theorists still believe the Gulf of Tonkin incident was faked! HAHA what morons! Actually believing the government would fake something as big as that when the official reports all conclude that it is actually true xD
Gavin Davis
Show me where a document states that crime scene DNA belonged to somebody from the New York prison system. If you say it's in the redacted information, you're an idiot grasping at straws.
Daniel Myers
Hey fag, usually when you're a shill and you say something stupid like "prove this conspiracy is real" you offer some irrefutable evidence of why its not a false flag.
Eyewitness testimony and "because x said it happened" is not hard evidence in a school shooting where 22 kids were reported to have died.
Ian Williams
Sandy hook never happened provide the proof it did
Zachary Reed
I live in Florida and watched closely on local TV and internet. What troubled me most was the absence of ambulances after the fact. You would think that no fewer than 20 ambulances for living victims would have been required. Maybe more. But they weren't there. How so? And where are the victims who survived? Shouldn't we expect to hear from them? There are other minor oddities too. I think something happened in orlando but I am not sure what it was. I tend to believe the story as presented but some of it doesn't add up.
Daniel Edwards
Ha! I'm gonna bring up something entirely unrelated and use that in place of an argument! That'll show them!
Oliver Russell
i mean you guys can just watch this 2 and a half hour documentary on the "event"
What is media doesnt want to give them much air time because of the whole 'muslim' thing and help Trump
Carson Morales
Look if the claim is, kids died here, on this date, it shouldnt be so hard to prove. Meanwhile, there are massive inconsistincies between the transcripts and police dash cams, the charity websites that were cached 24 hours before the shooting, the arial shots showing a different school being ecacuated(not sandy hook), and the bullshit with DNA hits showing up in government records only to be redacted. You talk like you have proof, but you have less than i do, you only have a cute story and muh feelins.
Liam Smith
How do you even fake a mass shooting?
Sounds like something out of a Bourne movie.
Angel Edwards
If you talk loudly at kids and tell them to do anything they will cry. Not even yelling. They seem more scared of the police then anything as well.
Tyler Watson
Here you go faggot.
Jordan Diaz
>still have no place in the official narrative they dont have a place in your conspiracy narrative either though... also the reason they stopped "hammering us with it" is because of the passage of time and the occurrence of other news stories. nothing gets covered indefinitely. >guy who lived across the school thought the school was closed and? >there's no survivors with their stories a'la Columbine lol it's not like there's been documented harassment of people involved in sandy hook from you fucking people >there's literally no information about the school whatsoever how much information is there on any random grade school? but the burden of proof isnt on me >there are massive inconsistincies between the transcripts and police dash cams such as? > the charity websites that were cached 24 hours before the shooting lol it's much more likely that the vast conspiracy put their websites up at the wrong time than it is that this was just some kind of glitch/error >the arial shots showing a different school being ecacuated(not sandy hook) source? >DNA hits showing up in government records source?
Wyatt Gonzalez
why? >tfw low battery
Jack Cruz
Wow! Maybe an officer from the neighboring state of New York was on the scene and contaminated the evidence. He'd conveniently be in a prison system database!
Or all of reality is a sham and everything we've ever known is a lie. That's much more likely.
Kayden Miller
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Owen Russell
>thread about a supposed faked incident in order to justify political actions >shills like yourself posting that something like this can never happen >show that it has already happened ENTIRELY UNRELATED
Jaxon Martin
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Matthew Wright
You can't bring up Gulf of Tonkin, which actually has substantial evidence in favor of a conspiracy, when we're discussing Sandy Hook, which has the most loosely connected "evidence" ever.
Owen Lee
Illiterate cunt it clearly states that its from the offender database. Cops dna doesnt go there. Jesus fuck, are you pretending to be this dumb?
Brayden Murphy
One thing I'll never understand is why people care if it was a hoax or not
Fuck lets accept it happened I'm still pro gun, I personally believe that we should not be making our laws based off of the idea that 0.2% of killings are broadcast on TV like nothing else
Jaxson Jones
Have you even been around kids before? they make this "terrified" face over trivial things. If you've ever spent time at a playground you would probably see a few kids like this in a span of an hour.
Isaiah Garcia
You asked me to post about DNA inconsistencies
Levi Richardson
ad hominem. always a sign of confidence.
Dominic Long
The substantial evidence came out 30 years later. According to you, everyone questioning it before that was just a conspiracy nutjob.
Charles Robinson
>an envelope with someone else's dna was found you really blew the case wide open lol
Jacob Gonzalez
Convicted Offender DNA Profile refers to the shooter. It's saying this profile matched one from the New York State Police Investigation Center Database. It says that because a New York officer contaminated it. Nowhere does it say that it matched a convicted offender from New York. You're putting together 2 separate things.