Just got done watching this and thought it was one of the most kino movies I've ever seen. Can someone recommend me any other movies, songs, bboks, etc similar to this? I want more of that symbolic dreamy feeling.
If it helps, the move reminded me of this song alot.
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dont mind me just posting that gorgeous character design
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Plot in itself was predictable, but the characters really carry the movie.
Agreed, the visual design is GOAT.
Rango is top three 21st century animated movies and the best cgi cartoon to date.
kek, I'll give you the cgi is pretty good, and the humour better than the average american cartoon. Just for curiosity, who are the other two?
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Kung Fu Panda 2/3 and Spirit. Neither of which is really stellar. It's just that cartoons are as generic as capeshit now. Maybe Coraline.
Coraline shits on anything in this thread.
I'll have to rewatch it, but it's definitely up there. Fuck that artsy shit like Kubo. Coraline should've gotten all attention.
If we include weebshit, then Millennium Actress makes the list.
If we include weebshit 90% of american cartoons get BTFOed hard because in nipland big studios actually give a fuck about what they produce.
I saw Kubo recently and it was better than I expected honetly. Clearly a visuals>plot kind of movie, but very enjoyable.
90's and 00's Pixar movies are god tier as well
Not really. Weeb movies are not very good. Japan can do series well.
I fucking hate Pixar. They ruined cartoons by standardizing the formula in the same way Marvel did with superheroes. I find it all unwatchable now.
Don't blame old Pixar kino for all the crap copycats that plague the market
>Not really. Weeb movies are not very good. Japan can do series well.
I don't follow animes anymore, but there's a lot of movies that range from let's say "interesting" to fucking god tier. Any random movie by Satoshi Kon completely destroys a good portion of what Disney did.
>I fucking hate Pixar. They ruined cartoons by standardizing the formula in the same way Marvel did with superheroes. I find it all unwatchable now.
For how in decline Pixar is, I think they still at least keep the shadow of a proper identity. If we want to blame anyone for standardizing animation, look no further than Dreamworks.
Which toons do you consider Pixar kino?
>If we want to blame anyone for standardizing animation, look no further than Dreamworks
I don't think I can agree. Dreamworks copied what worked from Pixar, but not always. They've dabbled into unique territory with Prince of Egypt, Shrek and Spirit much more than Pixar.
Both Pixar and Dreamworks broke the mold in the 90s. Pixar more consistently than Dreamworks. Outside of kino like Prince of Egypt and Spirit, most of their movies until a certain point were blatant rip off of what Disney was doing at the moment. They were literally the american version of a chinese disney bootleg. Shrek consacrated the "humor that doesn't take itself too seriously" formula, and Madagascad the slapstic and visual style. Think how many cartoons nowadays are packed with overreacting spastics. That's because of Dreamworks.
Pixar really pushed cgi in animation, until Shrek no one could even come close to their level. Post-Walle Pixar is very fluctuating in quality. Up was good, Inside Out was decent but it has to be their most overrated movie ever, tied with Toy Story 3, and the dinosaur's one is ok.
Finding Nemo (first movie I ever watched at the cinema), Toy Story, Wall E, and Monsters Inc are examples of god tier Pixar movies
I think Toy Story is cheesy as hell and really dates hard. All great cartoons used to feel like myths or fairy tales, which it does not. It works particularly well neither a character study, not as a story. I think it won't be regarded highly as new generations replace ours.
Wall-E was utter shit and Monsters are just okay.
Finding Nemo might quality. But they had to ruin it with a meme sequel.
wew lad
>top three 21st century animated movies
>Kung Fu Panda and Spirit
I wouldn't consider Sup Forums and good taste to exist in the same universe, but you'd do yourself well to get some recommendations if those are in your top 3 list.
Contrarian much?
>Kung Fu Panda
Is a bad movie. The sequels are kino.
And what would you consider to be good 21st century movies?
Maybe. My favorite Disney are Bambi, Pinocchio, Robin Hood, The Fox and the Hound, The Lion King and Tarzan. Others would include Balto, Anastasia and The Secret of NIMH.
They're all traditionally animated, morally good and contain deep archetypal truths. Nothing modern Disney or anything Pixar ever did compares. If old cartoons emulated Jung's archetypes through fairy tales and their tropes, Pixar was the one to codify the switch to Hero's Journey and Star Wars-y blockbuster. It's a shameful degradation of the formula. Deep as the sea comapred to a puddle.
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I love those movies as well, but come on, if you take off your nostalgia goggles you would see that Pixar classics are just as great as old Disney classics
Not really helpful towards changing my mind. My argument was about why I think late 90s and newer cartoons generally lack a deep spiritual core and more often than not a genuine moral message. I'm not trying to be a moralfag either, but kids movies need to be moral on a deep level. For example, Bambi was a story that teaches kids how to deal with loss and become men. There are no hamfisted meme morals there (dude robots made humanity fat lmao). It's naturally good in its structure as a tale of growing up and it is such without any dialogue or overt visuals. Secret of NIMH is about self sacrafice and Love culminating with a red diamond/bloody heart (obvious Jesus stand in) redeeming the characters and protecting them by magic in a world that is explicity science-fiction. These are just two exaples I quickly put together. I could go on, but you should get the point. Older films by using archetypes managed to breate in depth that nothing Pixar ever did compares. On the other hand, Frozen, Tangled and its ilk actively deconstruct and subvert archetypes, showing us how ugly and vile modern Disney is. I don't see how this can be considered nostalgia googles. Especially since I grew up with early Pixar.
I understand what you're saying, but I think you're looking a little too much into it. 90% of Disney movies' moral is "be yourself, be good". That's it. This applies to modern Disney too which never recovered by the fucking Renaissance when all the movies started being a coming of age story. Then we have odd balls like The Sword in the Stone, which actually teaches kids to study in a funny way (grossly underrated movie), Robin Hood which is just about a bunch of pals fucking with the local authorities (what's the moral there? Don't be an ass with mother complex?), and Jungle Book where the protagonist makes a complete u-turn about his future because of pussy.
I love all these movies btw.
What makes all modern movies blur, more than the "moral ground", is the necessary autoironic humour, with the characters cracking jokes as if there was no tomorrow.
Obviously, not all Disney movies are golden, but those that stand out as better ones are.
Robin Hood is obviously about how taxation is teft :^)
No, but jokes aside, it's a power trip for kids who want to fight for good against evil. What it really does get right is putting in the context of the crusades (which are refreshingly not portrayed negatively) and establishes the myth of the great king Richard. These are positive things. Further it really drills in the heads of the kids the idea how a real lady acts. As much as I hate to talk about Robin Hood because Marian furries always pop up, Disney really nailed the fair maiden character here. I think it's a significant portrayal for the medium as a whole.
desu I dislike Jungle Book a lot
Although the final scene is pure gold. It's a movie about trying to be a queer faggot with your faggot friends, but deciding a damn fine sexy ass indian chick is the way to go.
The crusades element is completely irrelevant to the movie tho. King Richard just fucks off because of reasons because otherwise there would be no movie.
HTTYD2, it's literally the best animated movie ever.
LITERALLY the best animated movie ever? Really? It's pretty good but I don't think it's that good
I don't think it is. These small tie ins are a significant thing as they are the first exposure of real people and events to kids. That it's almost irrelevant is the proof they did it right.
I dunno man, as a kid I didn't give an absoute fuck about the movie being staged during the crusades, the king could have just be in bed with a cold for all I cared.
>>>/reddit/
In this particular case, true. But various kids latch to various things. My interest in Aztec society stems from a few levels of an fps game I played as a kid. Ubisoft's first Prince of Persia is technically set in India, but it made me interested in Persia, so I eventually traveled and learned the language out of interest.
Kids develop interests from these small things and while they are small, they're valuable.
good villain
>Kung Fu Panda 3
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Go home Homer.
disappointing villain who was defeated by memes.
Is that the movie with forced gay vikings?
>Plot in itself was predictable
all westerns have a shitty plot anyway
>all western cartoons have shitty plot anyway
FTFY
Agree that 2 is kino and severely underrated IMO, 3 was a disappointment in my opinion but still ok.
They should have got Clint Eastwood to do the voice in Rango, the way they did it where it was like a cameo that was clearly supposed to be him but wasn't actually him was weird.
2 is absolutely kino, 3 is what you'd expect from an episodic show on saturday morning with the exception that they stretched the 20 minutes of plot to 80 and gave it 100+ times the average budget.
It's the movie with forced everything.
Was the golfer guy The Man With No Name?
>anything satoshi kon beats anything else
yes, that is ofc true jesus fucking christ the man was a anachronistic genius
next time stop the shit posting and just post circle-jerk threads about your favorites
>"Look into my eyes, I wanna SEE you die"
Rattlesnake Jake didn't pussyfoot around with his dialogue at all and I love him for it
My main problem was that the emotional conflict in the second film was dragged back up for the third film and not explored in an interesting way. His dad being alive was handled really poorly and the only scene with any weight between him and Po was the scene that basically just went over what happened in the second film to his mother.
The biggest problem is that the third movie is literally nothing but a demo reel for Dreamworks animators.