Who was in the wrong here?

who was in the wrong here?

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Both. Stone buying into Russian propaganda and Colbert for buying into democrat propaganda

>Well I spoke with him for weeks and he brought up some very interest-
>>SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT HIM

We were. All of us.

Stone has got to be one of the most naive motherfuckers around or he has some kind of daddy fetish. Has he ever met a dictator that he hasn't fallen head over heels in love with? And he has the gall to call himself a liberal and a proponent of free speech lmao

Is Vladmir Putin really a 'Brutal Dictator'?

PA LEASE!!!!!

Stone fell for the benign dictator meme.

Colbert fell for the hacking meme.

They are both dumb and fuck man our country is so shitty literally look at the state of our """""""journalism"""""" now.

you're worse for believing republican propaganda desu
>the path to freedom is lowering top marginal tax rates
>work will set you free

>Colbert claims that he believes Putin is a scary dictator because Putin runs a state press and routinely suppresses dissenting opinions
>Colbert proceeds to shout down Stone's dissenting opinion for being wrongthink
>completely removes Stone's claim that Israel interfered more with the election than Russia from the broadcast version of the program
We are living in an Orwellian nightmare

>you're worse for believing republican propaganda
Re-read my post. I never said I did.

Nice dubs btw.

Steven Colbert, the fucking judgmental hack.

pointing out flaws in russia would be pointing out flaws in the west, as everyone is dancing to the same tune

>Oliver "I barely made one good movie" Stone

Stone's documentary is the closest thing I've seen to journalism in a while

If your question is who was wrong and one of the potential answers is Stephen Colbert then you've already answered the question. Stephen Colbert is always wrong.

>routinely suppresses dissenting opinions
That's a cute way of saying "kills reporters he doesn't like". It's even better when your post has a mention of wrongthink as if you're not participating in a gross example of revisionism yourself.

Both are hacks, Oliver Stone is the kind of leftist who would've sucked off the USSR 50 years ago, and Colbert is a muppet for the DNC.

>that like/dislike ratio
lol it's embarrassing how libtards can't stand to hear opposing views anymore

Stone doesn't know what he's doing. He thinks asking questions is enough to be a journalist. Objectivity is the pretend way to seem intellectual. That's not journalism.

I'd love to see the unedited version of this interview

a drunk vs a shill
what a waste of time

Kill yourself, statist cuck.

but if you're not with me you're against me

its all bullshit now, though. Designed around the precept of "you don't have to worry about answers if they're asking the wrong questions."

It depends what his goal was. It seems to me that the purpose was to let Putin present his side on many topics to the American people. Presenting the Russian POV is something I haven't seen on any mainstream American news source which is pretty telling.

>i've never seen russian-centric news with an explicit russian angle on what is most likely US television, so that makes you think...

That doesn't do anything. It makes it look like weak russian propoganda. Present the truth instead of some lukewarm attempt at "objectivity". It's gross how shitty our journalism is.

You for posting in the wrong board, /poo/turd.

I want to see the part (((they))) edited out

>Present the truth instead of some lukewarm attempt at "objectivity"

doubleplus good newspeak comrade

You don't think that it's worth knowing what the other side believes and wants in a conflict?

The answer is always Colbert. There's not a more grating personality on TV than earnest Colbert.

Yes, user, Russian-controlled propaganda is such useful intel for future wars.

I just saw the first part of Stone's interview with Putin today.

After watching it? Its a massive red pill. It shows how after the 2nd world war the NWO was founded through NATO and its been used as a weapon against Russia ever since. This is the deeper reason why Russia is the big boogeyman. Yes on the dems level its to smear Trump. But higher up? They have been anti NWO since they formed as a federation and been a thorn in their side with the direction of Putin. The guy is there dropping truth bombs to all the globalists and who do we see there? JOHN MCCAIN laughing like the evil little neocon he is. This adds more context to research I've already done on past geopolitical conflicts involving Russia where they have been demonized. The South Ossetia/Georgian war. The Ukraine/Crimea fiasco. All events filled with msm lies painting Putin and Russia as the big bad aggressors. Russia is the key to everything. It's really incredible

who said anything about intel?

Well, I assumed you had a point and not merely suggesting a fucking Stone documentary is useful information for future conflicts.

Colbert is wrong

Stone is right that Israel actually does have a larger effect on our elections. If you want to get elected, you have to please AIPAC. If we had as many lobbyists, special interests, and campaign dollars flowing from Russia as we do with Israel, it would be complete bedlam at CNN.

The argument can be made that Israel is an ally but on the other hand, the question is raised why countries like Saudi Arabia are an "ally" and Russia isn't. Saudi Arabia is a repressive regime with virtually no human rights, and engages in saber rattling across the ME. Russia is a Christian nuclear armed country with plenty of shared interests with the US. The problem is that Russia is opposed to globalization and one-world rule. Hence, the neoconservative globalists who run our country, media and Deep State are intrinsically opposed.

classcucks are the literal equivalent of men who let their wives fuck other men because they live vicariously through their bull's pleasure. "temporarily embarrassed millionaire"

>The argument can be made that Israel is an ally but on the other hand, the question is raised why countries like Saudi Arabia are an "ally" and Russia isn't.
Do you even have a 8th graders level of history? Astounding how breathtakingly stupid the pedants always seem to be.

>/leftypol/

>useful information for future conflicts
It's useful information for ordinary people trying to make sense of Russo-American relations, not for the Pentagon. Obviously.

Obviously colbert. He didn't even have the balls to broadcast the full interview, pathetic.

>It's useful information for ordinary people trying to make sense of Russo-American relations, not for the Pentagon.

Jesus fuck you don't deserve those trips.
>Objectivity(truth) is the pretend way to seem intellectual.

Fuck off kike.

There will never be anyone as pathetic as a leftist

>the path to freedom is lowering top marginal tax rates

But it is, because I'm not a filthy poor peasant.

>Colbert talking about others doing propaganda
lol

>>Objectivity(truth)
>how to spot indoctrinated individuals 101

>It seems to me that the purpose was to let Putin present his side on many topics to the American people.
>It's useful information for ordinary people trying to make sense of Russo-American relations
wow look at those goalposts move

Bullshit. JFK, Platoon, and Born on the Fourth of July are all great and he's made numerous other films I would say are at least 'good.'

>socialism will work, really!
>real communism has never been tried!

Fuck off, cuck.

>he's still claiming Russian propaganda is anything but
Wow, look at your ironclad argument.

Why you idiots saying Stone fell for the dictator meme?

In an interview with Putin, you can't just say "why did you kill those journalists" you have to play ball & dance around to get the answers you want

Colbert is just a piece of shit, hes a complete puppet to his neo-con masters

>not mentioning the part that wasn't allowed to air

freebeacon.com/politics/report-oliver-stone-anti-israel-rant-colberts-show-didnt-air/

you make a solid argument man the US military isn't going to use an interview on Showtime to plan its invasion of Russia I concede the point

>Do you even have a 8th graders level of history?

in what country?

>these hyper manipulating movies about screaming and yelling real loud to convey human emotion are so good

They're good movies for people who want to seem interesting.

B A S E D

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he wrote a bunch of good movies too

>Bill Burr interview makes Colbert look like an ignorant asshole
>now this one too
is Colbert starting to crack?

wtf does that even mean? the millennial mind is full of fuck.

Hey, maybe next time don't suggest Russian propaganda is anything but propaganda, you literal shill.

They all have shitty overdone acting and obvious melodramtic moments that culminate in a big mediocre pile of "wow that really makes you think" without actually making you think about anything.

Exactly. Even if you disagree with Stone at least he's a real liberal and not some Clintonian faux democrat.

Apparently they cut out his rant against Israel. Of course (((they))) did.

I'm surprised he went and critisized him directly, albeit with the staged help of the audience's snickering.

I would have expected him to act more cowardly and attack him on the show AFTER the interview.

you have a cute way of claiming extraordinary stuff without providing source. it's even better when your post also has a mention of wrongthink as if you're not participating in a gross example of revisionism yourself, and on top of that seemingly implying that anyone takes seriously what he says or reads in a taiwanese leather-knitting forum

>thinks people don't scream and yell in wartime situations

What did he say about Israel?
Did they help Trump?

Yeah, I get it, Oliver.

Stone is a Vietnam war vet you fucking buffoon.

>without providing source
I didn't accuse Putin of subversive actions against his critics, the guy I quoted did. I just corrected it to "kills people" because that is precisely what the user meant.

part 3 and 4 were bretty gud

Bits I liked were:
meaning of 'oligarchy'
Ukraine snipers
Putin describes himself as flexible, then in a later clip talks about Winston Churchill as flexible
Strangelove

t. cucks who work against their best interests

keep working for that minimum wage

That they had more of a hand in the elections than Russia did, i.e. a 7th Holocaust was initiated by Stone's comment.

do you know what a real liberal is?

peasants don't pay top marginal tax rates. republicans routinely maintain or raise effective taxes on the poor.
fair enough

He said they have lots of influence in the US government and interfere in every election yet the media doesn't give a shit.

It's funny how Sup Forums fed all those memes and now they're using the "kekistani" flag to make cringe threads about the guys who are still into this.

>>completely removes Stone's claim that Israel interfered more with the election than Russia from the broadcast version of the program

>mfw i just googled this
>mfw this actually happened

in an interview where he criticizes Stone's stance on free speech

Is Colbert's audience just like a handpicked hivemind? They always boo anything Colbert doesn't agree with and clap for what he does agree with

I wonder (((who))) could've been behind that

I don't understand the line of thinking that Stone should have been less appeasing and more critical with his questions/responses.

I think that in the BEST case scenario, if you're rude and unpleasant as an interviewer, Putin is going to give you literally the same fucking answers because he's a politician who spouts rhetoric over and over again and isn't going to change that if you're being an asshole, and in the WORST case scenario he just won't answer your questions and will cancel the interview because he doesn't have to fucking talk to you.

There's a fucking reason Oliver Stone got the interview in the first place. Colbert could never land an interview like that because he doesn't have the tact, and even if he did he'd blow it. Stone is extremely strategic and nuanced in his interview, it's obvious he wants to get to the bottom of Putin but plays chess with him rather than fucking Jenga like Colbert wants. "WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL HIM OUT? SAY SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT HIM." Is Colbert really that childish? He has to just be playing to his audience at that point, they're like trained monkeys.

I'm well aware of that. Doesn't excuse shitty filmmaking.

>omg, colbert was so RUDE and TOXIC
Why do all these manly man anons suddenly tremble in fear as soon as someone shows an assertive attitude as an interviewer?

all live studio audiences are coached to respond on cue

That's what Colbert was doing? Interviewing? Because it seemed like he was more concerned with saying MUH EVIL RUSSIANS.

here's the CEO of CBS. I'll give you one chance to guess his ethnic/religious background.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Moonves

>always

youtu.be/H4uweHG9LfY?t=4

there was one time they didn't follow the narrative and it was when he announced Comey was fired and grilled them for it.

twitter.com/colbertlateshow/status/862119534500749312

>Colbert
>assertive

I don't know why you guys act as if there has been a great change in Colbert since 2016.

He was always like this, a liberal propagandist.

The only reason you didn't see it was because you used to believe in alot of liberal talking points.

It also doesn't help that the smugness comes straight through when he isn't using a character.

>w-why are you l-laughing?

If Putin didn't redpill him, the reaction he got from his alleged friends sure did.
Anyways this was about a russian law about "gay propaganda to minors", basically being flamboyantly gay where children can see you.
Its a stupid law that you can't really enforce, and in the west it is known as an anti-gay law, and people think being gay at all is illegal in Russia or something.
They aren't THAT conservative, being gay is tolerated, just not if you are showing off your gayhood to minors.

American's are playing right into Russia's hands. Their constant flooding of false stories and undermining trust in the own fellow countrymen is exactly what they want. Sowing discord and civil unrest is exactly what they want. To knock america away from Global Superpower status.

Left vs. Right is exactly what enemies of America want.

You just said what he said

Form your own thoughts please

We have more in common with Russia from a moral standpoint than we do with close allies such as Saudi Arabia. There is not much that Putin is guilty of that hasn't also been done in some capacity by every modern US president.

Russia from a geopolitical standpoint is just inconvenient to be friends with right now, this is why you have blatant mouthpieces like Colbert telling you what to think.

This is true. I saw Real Time w/ Bill Maher live and they have an applause sign that lights up at certain times. Plus another comedian comes out before the show and coaches people how to applause at certain times etc.

its a thread about a documentary from a top director

>anymore

>We have more in common with Russia from a moral standpoint than we do with close allies such as Saudi Arabia.

Kill a heretic before an infidel.
Those who are doing 98% the same as you are will always be your top enemies, way ahead of those who are doing 5% what you are.
Because, you know, they actually have a shot of corrupting, influencing and taking over your organization.