Why was Stone laughing with Putin when he could've been vilifying him?

Why was Stone laughing with Putin when he could've been vilifying him?

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Stop bumping the Colbert threads and talk about the actual docu!

I feel like it's impossible to have a thread about it without attracting a wave of Russian shitposters telling us how Putin is a great guy and then it devolving into the usual Trump arguments. Anyway Stone didn't pin him down on anything of course, Putin would never have allowed that, they knew exactly what they were getting when they agreed to do the doc.

Why, exactly, is Putin a bad guy, again?

Based Mother Russia.

>Sucked oligarch dick and kept them by the balls so they'd fund his pet projects but also profit
>Invaded Ukraine preemtively when he could've legitimately annexed them without bloodshed
>Shot down a civilian plane for the chaos and destablization in Ukraine
>Kills dissenting voices just for keks
I could go on, but I bet you know these things already, Sergei.

>>Shot down a civilian plane for the chaos and destablization in Ukraine
As much as I hate Putin I can't blame him or Russia for that one.

You think America is so innocent?

the russians are the ones who will talk about the murder of journalists

he is a politician

and he also has his enemies murdered, but the fact that he is a politician alone already makes him a bad guy, good guys don't become politicians

>get arrested for murder
>others have killed too! let me go!
lel
you're not good at this

We will bury them.

>Sacha uses whataboutism!
No, but disapproval isn't finite. And America's shitcraft isn't concentrated in one individual. Everyone here is mildly shitty at worst, an Nth fraction of the shitty that Putin is.

No, but America hasn't been run by just one guy since 1999.
Putin has either been in power or around power since the Cold War, and he shows no signs of retiring soon.

Not that user, but I don't see your point. In fact, it makes it even a worse case for America. There were a bunch of American presidents, not one of them deserving of praise, not one of them is better than any other dictator.

This is all childish though, every world leader is just pushing each other and the bigger they are, the more vile they have to be. America has tortured more people, killed more innocents, broke more economies and influenced the world in a bad way more than any other country. That's not to say Americans are worst than the rest of the world, just that they are bigger and thus naturally much more of a bully. If things were to go differenty, other countries would be in that position. Russia is shit too. China too. Europe too. The bigger it is, the worst it is and no ammount of sugar coating can help with that.

It's just very frustrating to hear that some Americans don't realize that, a lot of people actually think "terrorists" are worse than themselves or something. I don't get how people can be this naive.

I'm not a fan of Trump but I thought it was awesome when he said America has killed people, too. No US president ever says shit like that. They just go on and on about how great we are.

>Russian shitposters telling us how Putin is a great guy
You mean Russoboos who don't actually live in Russia

>how dare you not be a neocon kike faggot and want to start WW3 with Russia over nothing

wew lad

>neocon kike faggot
Putin?

>people are really bad, but you're also bad as well, if not worse!

Regardless of what your insane cuck mind is feeding you, western society has always been at the forefront of human rights and personal freedoms, while the rest of the world is severely lagging or going counter to it.

>a lot of people actually think "terrorists" are worse than themselves or something
they aren't?

>if you don't want a retardedly antagonistic anti-Russian you are a Russianboo

The thing is nobody really likes Putin, but he's far better than all the retarded neocons that have infested our state department and media.

I never want to go to Russia or live in Russia, mainly because the economy sucks due to neoliberal economics implemented in the 90s and communism implemented before that.

But do I want to fight a war with Russia? Nope. Do I want to support ISIS in Syria? Nope. Do I want to overtly fund radicals to overthrow the elected Ukrainian government? Nope.

>Putin is le neocon

nope

He is traitor working for Russians and does not love America

>irredentist interventionist Israel lover
>not a neocon

>Invaded Ukraine preemtively when he could've legitimately annexed them without bloodshed

Are you retarded or something.

Americans literally kill on everyday basis brown people and have been installing bloodthirsty dictators even in Europe but because Putin kills homos and journalists and showed that Hillary is corrupt and fucked Bernie we should totally have a nuclear war with Russia

How can you not fucking love this guy

>Sucked oligarch dick
Lol, Putin ended the age of neoliberal oligarchy

>Invaded Ukraine preemptively
He annexed Crimea because the US funded a rebellion to overthrow the Democratically elected government of Ukraine, and Crimea had a strategic Russian Naval base in it that everyone knew a hostile Ukranian government would expel. In addition Crimea is 90% Russian

>annexed them without bloodshed

There was no bloodshed.

>Shot down a civilian plane for the chaos and destablization in Ukraine

"Putin" didn't shoot down anything, and in reality no one has provied any evidence as to who shot down that airliner.

>Kills dissenting voices just for keks

literally no evidence of this. You have just as much evidence that Clinton has people she doesn't like killed.

You and your crew need to stop using the term "whataboutism" because it outs you instantly

>supports Syria and Assad
>going directly against Yinon/PNAC

You literally can't be less of a neocon

whataboutism was coined by the economist magazine like decades ago

He's everything that Trump would like to be but will never ever be

Is there actually any proof that he kills gay people?

Of course not

well somebody's gotta kill brown people, we might as well do it.

Yes, yes this goy Putin is not one of us
OY VEY HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST

nope

Russia just banned gay propaganda aimed at children

Therefore they need to be nuked, according to jews.

You think this lefty bots even know what a neocon Is m8. For them neocon is like saying racist or fscist, just a buzzword.

>literally no evidence of this.

Well, it was an accident but it was Russia

For the life of me, I can't understand why airliners were flying over a highly active conflict zone

I'm pretty sure that the Russian Intelligence would have better ways to dispose of dissenters than to poison them and let them die slowly creating a huge media scandal

I hope he doesn't have a heart attack doing this, hockey and old men can be a dangerous mixture

Are you saying the Polonium-210 materialized out of his ass?

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>Seth Rich was killed by a radioactive substance that we all know can be bought at your local CVS

I never said Putin was an ethno nationalist. He's very much a globalist that is fine with jews (his best friend is a jew he met at karate practice) and he's fine with flooding Russia with Central Asian Muslims.

At the same time he obviously isn't a neoconservative because he opposes's Israel's and Saudi Arabia's "destroy the entire Middle East especially the secular, moderate, Muslim parts" foreign policy that makes up the core of neocon ideology.

Do you know how much radioactive material went missing after the Cold War? Any illegal organization can poison someone like that.

To this date there has been no evidence tying Putin to Litvinenko

Any criminal organization can poison someone in Russia with radioactive materials, and they would also all have a motive since Litvinenko was seriously involved in Russian Mob activity.

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>hurr only the Russian government has access to radioactive material

That line really made me respect Trump a lot.

There's more evidence the Clinton campaign killed Seth Rich than Putin poisoned Litivenko.

>killed by his KGB friends for betraying them

Yeah thats putins dirty work alright

If this is what Israel wanted, why the fuck did they ever give back the Sinai to Egypt?

they're playing 1401940D chess

remember when the CIA tested vaccines on niggers? remember when the gave LSD to people without their consent? dae lmao fuck Putin

Yinon Plan wasn't developed until the early 1980s after they had already signed the agreement to withdraw

So why is Russia protecting Lugovoy?

CIA is good boys. Dey dindu nuffin.

youtu.be/S0xKvjRATJI

You mean someone from the Clinton campaign has been linked to physical evidence from the shooting?

hey guys lets extradite our own citizens to a hostile country.

Theres a 60+ mens league in my town.

Are you fucking retarded?
I'm clearly saying it was not Russia who did it

>Russia just banned gay propaganda aimed at children
Translates roughly that they introduced law called "You have to be older than 18 to buy porn"

This nigga been working out 7 days a week since he was 14

Putin seduced him.

>hey this guy is linked to an international murder involving nuclear material, let's protect him because we want to make sure we're the good guys

Classic moral relativism when third world states are questioned by Americans.

And what evidence do you have that the Yinon Plan is being pursued or even has any mainstream support?

Well, this guy is kinda right
Shia's are more powerful because Iran is the only muslim country that doesn't suck major ass

>let them die slowly creating a huge media scandal
Is this how you want to die? Mess with Russia.

>No US president ever says shit like that
But that's not true? Obama did but you know, I can't mention his name even without get twenty spergout (you)s from kids who weren't even voting age when he was in office.

>let them die slowly WITHOUT creating a huge media scandal
THAT would be the Russian way

hey guys snowden leaked that we spy everyone on this planet quick someone get a FISA court order so he can go to jail without everyone else knowing about this. even better lets send him to the prison that we have in Cuba. Its feels so good to be the good guys

Russia Today founder was recently whacked as well while he was in DC visiting his Alfa Bank buddies. *cough* Trump private server *cough*

it's fair game

Why are Americans defending Putin? It's just weird seeing as a Russian. He might not have anything to do with Trump but he certainly is not the big strong autocrat that everyone misunderstood.

don't let them know

or when they counter with "Brietbart Alex Jones!"

>literal totalitarian dictator who brainwashes his people with government controlled media and kills journalists and dissenters who disagree with him and his total control over Russia
>is better than democratically elected heads of state.
Holy shit, I usually never believe there are real shills here...but the Putin defense force is far too autistic to be real opinions from human beings.

Russia would never openly admit to committing atrocities or warcrimes even though we all know they did.
That's a weakness. You don't show weakness in nature unless you want to be attacked.

>literally destibilize an entire continent for oil and support a medieval monarchy
>OMG Putin jailed pussyriot QUICK SOMEONE GET THE NUKE CODES

Well I guess we can't do anything about state corruption now since America already has done worse. Pack it up everybody.

Not since Putin hired a theater major as his Chief of Staff.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov

It's not so much defending Putin as being annoyed by people who say we should hate Russia because they do bad things.

Because Sup Forums and Rebbit are full of retarded children who actually think authoritarianism is cool and endearing.

We're not, we're trying to not let liberals send us into world war simply because It Was Her Turn.

Reminder that during 8 years Obama let Putin do literally whatever he wanted with minor repercussions.

Go home Trumpbaby. You don't know anything.

But, are you suggesting you shouldn't hate Russia for doing bad things...?

Fuck that continent.

Putin kills white people.

You mean besides the existence of AIPAC(Israeli shills) and more importantly PNAC (neocon shills that controlled the Bush administration) who directly called for and continue to call for neocon foreign policy that destroys secular stable middle eastern countries and replaces with with radical Saudi backed wahhabist/Jihadist terrorists?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee

There is no question of "if" Israel controls American foreign policy. It's a scandal in the US if you don't clap for the Israeli PM hard enough.

youtube.com/watch?v=pBALlbFHxio

I'm saying America does bad things, too. And instead of hating on Russia, we should become BFFs and do bad things together.

>totalitarian dictator who brainwashes his people with government controlled media and kills journalists and dissenters who disagree with him and his total control over the US

How can you support Trump's regime

>Reminder that during 8 years Obama let Putin do literally whatever he wanted with minor repercussions
Ah, revisionist history again I see. You want to compare Trump's "buddy buddy" attitude and how Obama handled him? Let me refresh your memory:

Obama placed heavy sanctions on Russia to try to dissuade them from further expansion after Georgia, Obama was hard-line against Putin on a variety of human rights concerns, including treatment of prisoners of war and overall human rights violations that Putin was pretending he wasn't committing.

What does Trump do? Literally fucking nothing. No further sanctions, trying to remove the current sanctions and cozying up with Putin like he owes him a favor.

Screech about this all you want, Obama took a hard stance against Putin's interventionist attitude towards foreign governments and foreign elections. Trump is a fucking wimp.

>if you don't clap for the Israeli PM hard enough.
lel
>the absolute state of clapistan

>you
I'm not talking about "you", I'm from that same society. I think we should first look at ourselves before projecting enemies elsewhere. If I were Russian I would be totally shitting on Putin first before saying anything about America. That is so specially because if we don't look at ourselves, chances are we don't even get a good picture of who the others are.

Western society is not just US and Europe, it's Congo and Bangladesh, it's all part of the same market and the same engine. Latin American dictators financed by the US are totally western things. Not to mention everything else that isn't western society is not simply a different way of life that is going its own way in a natural sense, they both feed one another. The middle east wouldn't be this mess without Europe or the US (or Russia). China wouldn't be how it is today without how the market works in the rest of the world, even NK wouldn't be this crazy if it weren't from the pressure it goes through.

I don't see anything about human rights or personal freedom in western societies besides in its own speech. If you live in the US and Europe you live through the privilege, but most people don't realize that it is not because it simply "went right" or the world just didn't catch up. "My freedom" only works at the expense of another person's slavery. And I mean that quite literally. Take away the slaves, the unfair prices for resources, the wars happening (always elsewhere) and the same economical powers wouldn't be able to sustain themselves as they are.

>I'm saying a whataboutism
Right, the only argument on this fucking board regarding Putin.

What did he say? And did he say it before, during or after he bombed seven countries every day for seven straight years?

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Wrong kiddo.

Putin was literally doing whatever he wanted during Obamas terms, up to and including invading neighboring countries.

Only share blue shills think "sanctions" are good punishment for literally invading another country lmao.

Oh Obama was "hard line" on Putin? Too bad that he continued doing EVERYTHING he wanted while Obama let him like the good little boy he was.

I criticize Obama for his drone program just like the rest of them, but he has talked about past evils our country has done.

Nothing of what are you saying is ever happened

Congratulations you are a puppet of Kiki's

Because I'm not a neocon shill, unlike you

>brainwashes his people with government controlled media

Want to explain how it's "evil brainwashing propaganda" as opposed to any other state or corporate media?

>kills journalists and dissenters who disagree with him

Literally zero evidence for this

>total control over Russia

I don't see Putin as all that powerful in Russia actually. He certainly has far less power than your average Soviet premier did. Russia isn't a communist country anymore, it's a mixed market system with regulations, but it's by no means a command economy anymore.