Why is nobody talking about the Libertarian resurgence in the US?

Johnson is far more successful than Ron Paul ever was. He is pulling more independants and dissilusioned republicans away from Trump and he will likely wind up as the third candidate in the debates.

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Because he could literally triple his support and still not win.

That's why.

God only the truly retarded would got Johnson

>He could literally triple his support and still not win

American education?

your typical anti-Johnson posters:

>has no knowledge of the electoral college
>thinks you spell vote with a "G"
>mumbles about a flintlock pistol in a trash can
>thinks the president can dissolve the national border by himself
>thinks that's what Johnson wants to do
>bought into the duopoly propaganda regarding third parties

hes pulling nothing no votes cast bruh

>muh spoilers
Best way to trigger both pol and CTR

Johnson could win with a single state, because GOP hates Trump and Democrats would be forced to vote for Johnson to prevent a Trump presidency

I used to be a trump hump but now I'm a johnson jacker.

Nothing but a protest vote. No one actually takes libertarians seriously.

>Libertarian resurgence

Practical libertarians are voting Trump, and the only reason Gary's numbers are so high is because of retards who see a 3rd option they've never heard off

fuck right off

Johnson will hand Clinton the election.
He'll be the second one to hang.

>the only time libertarians ever have a political surge is when they're being propped up as controlled opposition to split the right's vote
Has there ever been a more cucked political ideology?

>the third candidate in the debates.

HA HA HA HA HA

you think they will let someone outside of the two parties into the debates

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>Libertarian "resurgence"

Get back to me with Johnson's actual vote percentage on November 8. I guarantee you he won't get 2% nationally. Jill Stein, who's polling 6% right now, won't get 1%.

How many elections must we go through for people to finally understand that third party candidates always poll higher than what they actually get when people go into the voting booth and cast their ballots?

If he tripled his support he would be pulling massive amounts away from Clinton/Trump retard

Wait, you're saying that the president in the US doesn't need a majority vote?

>voting libertarian
Yeah guys, do it. You aren't throwing away your vote. Dude, weed. Open boarders man. 3rd party.

Trump shills keep sliding all the threads.

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>thinks the president can dissolve the national border by himself
Oh yeah that makes me feel better about supporting an open borders globalist

>Supports gun control
>VP is an Obama supporting gun grabber
>Sides with a socialist on 75% of the issues
>Calls Hillary a "wonderful public servant"
>Against religious freedom, calling it a "black hole that can lead to discrimination"
>Proudly supports TPP/NAFTA that only benefits the globalist elite
Fuck him

Someone post that guy that stripped on stage at the last Libertarian event, think it was James Weeks. That is why. Libertarians are autistic extremist political theorists for ideas that amount to anarchy on paper.

Third party votes and game theory, any vote not for the top two runners is worse than wasted in potential value. You didn't just forget or stay home, you voted against your only real options to make a "political statement" that amounts to voting Micky Mouse.

Vote Trump or don't vote at all.

>He is pulling more independants and dissilusioned republicans
If that guy is a libertarian i am a sjw. Had Mcafee won the nomination, different story.

lol made me chuckle

Okay, let's be realistic.

>Vote Johnson
>he tries for open borders
>probably won't be able to but will let illegals in easily by droves by not giving a shit
>tries to get good policies in
>Maybe able to do one or two good things in
>time for new election
>we never get another President but democrat thanks to Gary Johnson's policy on borders
>illegals voting democrat in droves
>they take his 1 or 2 policies out in no time
>add 100x of their shitty policies
>Diversity Utopa (Canada 2.0) USA
>And that's how the fall of the greatest super power was defeated in the history books

Please add glowing eyes with "I'm growing stronger" caption

Thank you for Correcting the Record™

Nah senpai.

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>implying these retards are going to bother to show up to throw away their votes in November

He said he agreed with a socialist (Bernie) on 75% of things.

Doesn't sound like a win for libertarians to me.

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Which is why anyone who wants to remove the electoral college is a tard.

Yeah, a system where someone with

It's not a pure libertarian push going on right now. Johnson is a fraud and I'm disappointed in him. The only reason the media is even mentioning third parties is because they know Trump will win and they want votes to be bled from the conservative voter base.

As much as I'd like a true libertarian president, Trump is the perfect one to set that stage right now. We need some serious work done to fix this country, and none of the libertarian candidates were that strong this time around in their policies. All of them were for open borders, which was ridiculous, especially now. That whole argument is basically just challenging the legitimacy of government as an institution, it's not a practical thing to be applied because other countries do have borders. MacAfee seemed the best imo, but even he had this issue wrong.

After Trump cleans up the out of control immigration, stops the economic disaster of globalist policies, rebuilds infrastructure, and steers us away from foreign interventionism, the time will be ripe for a libertarian to come in and focus on scaling back the police state and working on a freedom-based platform. What I'm seeing currently from the libertarian party is a more passive and lazy approach. They're better served being the clean up crew after Trump sweeps up the heavy mess. Right now, they're a mess as a party and need better organization. We need practical solutions BADLY, and they're stuck with too many idealist what ifs still.

Trump is already changing the discourse massively.

It seems that people really like open gates. Inviting strangers to your home does not seem reasonable to me.

Is this Johnson guy only gaining this much attention to steal Trump voters away? There has been nearly zero news coverage on him till after all the Clinton stuff started coming to light.

Why do you fucks always go by the CNN poll?

I'm pretty sure like the past debates it's an aggregation of all their polls, unless they pull some bullshit to put him in.

What can we do to make sure Johnson is in the debates?

Then why are third parties relevant if "trump will win"? He can't even beat the Johnson?

I honestly don't understand how anybody can still defend Trump
He's a disaster.

He's plummeting in the polls.

He sabotages his own campaign on a daily basis.

He needs to be replaced with somebody who actually has a chance of beating Hillary.

NOW.

It doesn't matter who: Carson, Rubio, Cruz, Bush, anybody would be doing a better job.

I would even look into calling Gary Johson and asking him to be the Republican nominee.

But Trump just isn't going to cut it. He needs to go.

I can't speak for where his support in the polls comes from, but media attention on Johnson has traditionally surged whenever Never Trump sentiment surged. He first took "center stage" whenever Trump won a series of states showing that he was clearly the favorite moving forward, then was all the focus again when Rubio and Cruz dropped out. And again during the Judge Curiel thing. He's being marketed as "the conservative's alternative to Trump" even though it's doubtful that that's what he is.

Until we change election law there's no point to a third party. Without a path to 270 votes you are irrelevant at best and at worst you'll allow the House to pick the president.

If Trump wins all those swing states he sure as fuck won't lose utah. I don't give a fuck if King Mormon himself endorses Johnson.

Johnson is a fucking idiot.

I've been backing the LP since Rand got whooped in the primaries and I'm disappointed in how the party has handled everything since then. But, Trump is too far from some of the libertarian and original tea party voter base and that's why he's getting votes. At this point I'm only supporting the guy because it's time to move past the duopoly and I live in a red state. If I was in a swing state I'd vote for Trump.
I think a good number of people feel the same way.

Bush would lose. Cruz I thought was the best choice along with Paul. Carson, Rubio, Fiorina... all of these would win against Hillary. She is an easy opponent but right now Trump is attacking everyone but her.

SHE SHOULD BE IN PRISON FOR VIOLATING THE ESPIONAGE ACT! But Trump is instead dealing with minor targets while she constantly attacks him!

Also he is moving further LEFT! He is trying to pander to the Bernie crowd when he has only 60% of the republican/conservative base supporting him. HE NEEDS AT LEAST 80% OF THEM TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY! Even then he still needs to get all of the undecided people over. The democrats are a larger and more organized party so this is not an easy race to win. We need ALL republican votes and then some. They can win easily with a few extra votes and ALL democrats.

Between the RNC and DNC (all candiates) only 14% of eligible voters voted in the primary (or 9% of total US population). It was split about 50/50. In the RNC Trump won with less than 40% of the Republican vote. He really needs to FOCUS and get more concise. He needs to move more RIGHT and attack HILLARY more.

>at worst you'll allow the House to pick the president.

The President in a tie is picked by the house of representatives in the states. The majority of states are easily controlled by republicans in the house of representatives.

In the event of a tie. Trump would win the presidency. The VP is decided by the Senate. Which republicans also control so Pence would win the VP.

A tie would not be bad for Republicans. It would be a victory.

Because Johnson's brand of "libertarianism" is Hillary with a dick
Praises Hillary
Cries about racism
Supports TPP(and don't give me free trade bullshit, that's pure corporatism and should be heretical to anyone truly interested in competition)
VP wants a gun ban, Johnson himself repeats the Democrat talking point about having a "discussion" on guns which has always been code for unconstitutional restrictions

But dude weed, right?

God you guys are retarded and dont even look at polls, then spout shit.

He takes pretty much equal from both and more often then not third parties take more from clinton

forgot the pic

And then your state goes Yellow.

So why didn't this happen with McGovern running?

they have entirely different platforms but you want to meme about 3 issues that they have similar views on.
like 90% of the population wants more regulations to prevent guns from reaching criminals and the mentally ill.
He says the Tpp needs to be adjusted
running mates have different oppinions all the time

Do they pay you by the post or by the hour

Amen. Fuck Johnson

Most people in this country have no idea what gun control laws we even have. Liberals do a great job at misleading them.

(((CNN polls)))

Wtf i hate libs now

Don't forget that he's corrupt as shit

preach the truth, brother

Johnson is a pseudo-libertarian. He is not a true libertarian. Fuck Johnson.

He's gonna make Hillary a lock. Fuck him and fuck his supporters.

Artificial bubble created by MSM to leech votes away from Trump. Whitey is easy to dupe.

He's our best hope, leaf

They're kind of awful, i can go to a gunshow this weekend and buy an assault rifle without it ever being recorded in any format.

>shilling this myth despite it being debunked a million times
No, you can't. You WILL be background checked. There is no "gunshow loophole."

And it's not propaganda, retard. It's the natural procession of any democratic system. When there's only one winner it's better to consolidate your views and support the party closest to you for the highest chance of victory, instead of sticking to principles and losing everything. Which is guaranteed if you vote Johnson. He cannot beat Hillary, and you'll get a liberal Supreme Court for 30 years and mass amnesty to obligate left-wing Mexicans.

Even many multi-party parliaments lean strongly toward two major parties with others only representing a weak protest vote. Look how UKIP fared - millions of wasted votes.

The most important issues facing the country this election. Most Americans are against any increase in gun control, the media manipulates data by lying about current laws and phrasing questions in a vague manner that makes everyone feel they're getting what they personally want.

This is going to be the most significant election of the 21st century. It is a point of no return. And you retards want to blow it so your "libertarian" can get some more money next election cycle when he'll lose to a few million new hispanic voters.

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>Background checks required for private sales? No

Gun shows are not private sales. Private sales are between you and Johnny down the street. Gun shows are licensed vendors. TMYK.

There is private vendors at gun shows.

I like porn
Johnson > Clinton >>> Trump

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I lose if Trump or shillary wins retard, i hate them both. If Johnson doesnt get on the debate stage i might vote trump.

He's not going to any debates, he's a cuck without a party. Even his own party since he's not a libertarian just a cuckservative who likes weed

It's just stupid republicans showing how retarded they are
If you don't want to vote for trump, vote for hillary
voting for johnson is just for fags who refuse to make a choice

There are not. You think any swinging dick can set up a table at a gun show? Only FFLs get tables anymore. The "gun show loophole" was dead before it was even a reality.

You like cheap spic labor that much? Just vote Hillary

The thing is that they need 15% to gain drastically more visibility. Republicans are a mess due to Trump and DNC is a mess because of Wikileaks and Bernie Sanders. It's not impossible for Jill and / or Johnson to get to the 15% and actually provide and alternative to these two.

>i hate them
Meaningless trash
If you actually agree with his policies you might as well vote Hillary, because the end result will be identical once those illegals get voting rights.
If you're just protesting because Trump isn't a "true conservative" then you should pull your head out of your ass and accept the gritty truth of political conflict

Really? Child porn is gross dude. Why would anyone b4 that crap?

Ohhh you didn't read past the headline... Well let me inform you, trump took the pledge to Crack down on kiddie porn. Sounds reasonable right?

The more you ignorant Normies know

I #feelthejohnson

If you thought Hillary was a crony, you haven't met a libertarian.

How about that?

Obscenity is "offensive" porn without "serious value." Literally anything you can convince a jury to convict for.

I'll spell it out one last time before leaving:
If illegals aren't deported, they WILL get voting rights, and they WILL vote Democrat.
If illegals are deported, other political outcomes besides "Brazil" may become viable in the future.

Johnson is shit tier even by lolbertarian standards.

Libertarians who aren't starry-eyed, pie in the sky fucking college kids and are actually realistic are firmly on the Trump train.

Not likely. Texas still thinks our Republicans are "libertarian". We are headed in the right direction with Gov Abbott if he'd lose Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton.

Maybe i'm voting based off my non-intervention stance
Where Hillary and Johnson are entirely different.

>illegals voting democrat in droves
illegals can't vote...

It's over. Trump is finished. He's literally given up at this point dude.

I'll dine with the Stein.

If they become legal citizens they're more likely to go through schooling and will participate in competitive jobs it would only hurt in that regard a short amount of time.

I personally think pedophilia is a legitimate sexual orientation, but you can't support child porn without basically supporting rape.

You're literally voting for a degenerate communist

They're not checking voter ID apparently.

See the mentality that pedophilia is a sexual orientation gives more reasons for them to be executed desu, they dont belong in society.

Trump's sweeping the entire rustbelt, I hate to say something good about Michael Moore but in this area he knows his shit and he is in panic mode