Eddie Brock is still a disgraced journalist, but rather than the Sin Eater he was duped by Cleetus Kassady, and Kassady was brought down by Detective Jean DeWolff rather then Spider-Man himself. Kassady was also a killer-for-hire for mob boss Silvio Manfredi.
Brock finds out Kassady has been moved to the privately-funded Ravencroft Institute and breaks in to investigate, as he's obsessed with getting revenge on Kassady for ruining his life. As it turns out, Kassady is being used in experiments conducted by Dr. Miles Warren to weaponize an alien symbiote that has been recovered from a crash site by their benefactor (OsCorp). Shit goes wrong, and Brock bonds with the original symbiote while Warren's "clone" bonds with Kassady.
Kassady becomes Carnage and essentially goes on a rampage, hellbent on toppling Manfredi's empire after Manfredi betrayed him. Brock grappes with the changes in his organism and a telepathlic link that allows him to sense what Carnage is up to.
Warren's assistant Ashley Kafka finds out about the whole thing. They fall in love as Ashley helps Brock overcome his issues and become Venom in order to stop Carnage while both are being hunted by both Warren and DeWolff.
Mac Gargan is featured as the leader of OsCorp's private military unit, armed with sound-based weaponry, and we also get Robbie Robertson as Brock's old editor at the Daily Goble, and Robbie Farrell as Brock's street-wise informant and friend who dies. Frankie Barrison also appears as Kassady's psycho junkie girlfriend, while Patrick Mulligan is featured as DeWolff's partner.
Spider-Man is not involved in the plot at all, but there's a passing reference to him. Just the bare minimum to establish that he might exist in that universe.
Sounds pretty bad honestly. Why would a journalist break into Ravencroft? Why is Venom the good guy? Where is the horror
Jeremiah Perez
>Spider-Man spinoff >Spider-Man might not even exist
the fuck is sony on?
Michael Thomas
It doesn't really sound like he's the good guy, more like the lesser of 2 evils. I don't think it sounds too bad. I bet there's a lot of good action sequences.
Asher Rodriguez
i like
Jose Myers
So it's like any other capeshit origin story then? >bad things happen to man >man gets mutated >man wants to kill other mutant >gets forced love interest >man defeats other mutant
100/100 rotten tomatoes
Juan Williams
I was really hoping for Agent Vemom operatorkino.
Jeremiah Lewis
This is so retarded that it's probably true. T H A N K S A M Y ! H A N K S
A M Y !
Nathan Parker
GIVE ME SOME OF THAT WEB ACTION
Christian Walker
The Japanese have a proud tradition of killing themselves rather than allowing their enemies to defeat them. Sony's going to cling onto the Spiderman property until it's ripped from their cold, dead hands by Disney. They'll make a mediocre Venom movie if it A) keeps them afloat a while longer and B) makes it so no other studio can make the movie.
John Russell
>mfw
Christopher Sanders
This shit is mainly Sony US, you idiot. We've even got the damn emails showing that it's the execs in US coming up with all these ideas.
Carter Barnes
>sony into the trash it goes
Luis White
I love Venom, and kind of glad he has his own movie. Hopefully this will be a win for DC!
Kevin Perry
>Daily Goble too good for a simple typo
Jack Edwards
SOMEONE STOP HER
Ethan Reyes
The Japanese don't seem to be all that involved with Sony's movie production side of things in America. From what see in interviews and the leaked emails, the retarded ideas all seem to from Pascal and co.
Ayden Perez
Obviously fake, but thats really not bad at all. Good job, OP.
Ayden Davis
...
Aiden Green
this, Peter's highschool bully having joined the army and gone to Iraq and gotten his legs blown off and become an alcoholic like his abusive father was and given a second chance by being given the venom symbiote by the military that can turn into legs for him but he can't take all the horrible things they order him to do so he goes on the run with the only thing keeping him walking also trying to drive him to get black out drunk so it can take over and eat people is way more compelling than "I am le jealous of le spider-man" Eddie Brock who has been shitting up every media he's been in forever
although that's never happening even in the MCU since they made Flash some fat paki kid they'd never be able to pass as spec ops soldier
Benjamin Ortiz
This sounds okay desu, but a Venom movie without any sort of ties to Spider-Man is an inherently terrible idea.
Owen Lee
>Eddie Brock is still a disgraced journalist, but rather than the Sin Eater he was duped by Cleetus Kassady,
This is actually pretty smart and seems almost obvious in retrospect. Rather than having a throwaway character like the Sin-Eater, it's a good way to set up Kassady as an important figure while establishing Venom's origin. Sort of kill two birds with one stone.
>reads the rest of it
Nevermind this is fucking retarded
Landon Rogers
i would like to see spider man vs spider man
Charles Thomas
Sony congratulating themselves on their own professionalism gets me everytime
David Reyes
I can't believe half the stuff she is saying here
Isaac Baker
This is gonna be weird, since the reason Venom shoots webs and has a similar powerset to Spidey with some tech is because he originally bonded to Peter and learnt how to do it through him. That's why Carnage is the weird body mod weaponry, since he bonded with a serial killer and that's what he needed.
I don't mind a different retelling tho, especially if they do it well.
Nathan White
>Venom vs. Tobey Maguire Spider-Man vs. Amazing Spider-Man in 2020
Joseph Rogers
>2 billion on Sinister Six W E W E W
Christopher Miller
>Spider-Man is not involved in the plot at all, but there's a passing reference to him. Just the bare minimum to establish that he might exist in that universe.
Nigga how do you make a movie about a spidey villain without spiderman
Chase Flores
that's not eddy brock
Ethan Williams
>it's not topher grace Dropped before I even picked it up
Thomas Williams
>"WE'RE NOT SO DIFFERENT, YOU AND I." >it's the entire movie
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Joshua Price
she's fucking retarded. her numbers are fucking retarded. the ideas all sound awful. they're so attached to keep andrew even though his movies sucked and also really want to get tobey back which i really doubt they could.
just fucking nonsense, is she like that stupid boss everyone hates but just won't get fired?
Nathan White
She probably has dirt on everybody. She was less than subtle about threatening people in her emails.
Ryan Stewart
Is it The Thing with superheroes? If not, fuckoff
Brody Turner
even then how do they listen to her and not just say that's terrible, no. like okay they can't fire her but don't let her walk in with this bullshit.
Blake Lee
Because Hollywood is run by control freaks and the sycophants they surround themselves with. Check out Swimming With Sharks, supposedly the horrible, abusive shithead boss that Kevin Spacey plays was based on a real guy.
Jaxon Jenkins
>Sinister 6 will break the 2 billion mark >need 500 million on the next spider man to stay afloat >offering Marvel 1.5 billion to get the Spiderman licence back >we need to recast Toby Macguire! >"""""""""convince"""""""" Raimi to return and write/direct Jesus christ
Matthew Perez
>Sinister Six >2 billion dollars >achieved by more exciting and dramatic special "affects"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA
Brayden Phillips
>Check out Swimming With Sharks i will
Brody Wilson
>Jackal cloned the symbiote to make Carnage
I actually like it. I mean, I've got no idea how Warren would manage to clone the alien, but it's comics and it's his forte.
Lincoln Jackson
I don't understand, why would the Venom symbiote look like spider-Man's costume and emulate spider-man's powers if there's no connection to Spider-man?
side note, when I looked up "black spiderman" for pic related the first picture was of Miles Morales instead of this REEEE
Camden James
It really speaks volumes how popular Spider-Man is that he has managed to endure people like Amy having sabotaging his franchise for the last literal decade.
A post reboot Spider-Man flick hasn't even reached S1 Billion and she seriously expected Sinister Six to make more than double that?!
Bring back Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire after having just rebooted the franchise? What?!
And, for Spider-Man alone, charge Marvel more than it cost to buy Star Wars and Indiana Jones? Mind you that Marvel has always retained the merchandising rights to the character. How does this woman still have a job?
William Gutierrez
>Kassady becomes Carnage and essentially goes on a rampage, hellbent on toppling Manfredi's empire after Manfredi betrayed him
This is all I ever wanted to see: a hencheman acquiring superpowers and killing the mob boss thereby taking over the whole city. It's what I hoped Sandman would do in Spiderman 3
Jayden Nguyen
Isn't that kind of what Joker did in Batman '89?
Elijah Garcia
Haha holy shit they're retarded.
Tyler Fisher
>Not a horror movie in which a gang of hoodlums is stalked through the underbelly of Manhattan by Venom, each being killed off one by one
John Hill
A better movie would've been Flash Venom(Jensen Ackles) being sent on a mission by the US government to go after and destroy the Carnage symbiote(Michael C Hall or Aiden Gillen)
Eli Adams
Superpowers/ extraordinary abilities though, so the takeover is especially dramatic
Julian Perez
Jim Carrey gotta be Kletus bra
Xavier Jenkins
Jim can be Jonathan Ohm(The Spot), who Carnage kidnaps and uses to teleport around places making it easier to kill victims. Mark Pellegrino would also appear as The Sentry.
Julian Price
>Toby Macguire and Andrew together = 2 billions in profit How do these people end up in those positions?
Dominic Ross
>Andrew Garfield was practically days away from being set for life even with TASM2's failure If only he didn't stiff the CEO or whatever.
Nathan Hernandez
By playing the corporation game. It has nothing to do with making good product, it's everything to do with kissing the right asses and crushing your opposition.
Ian Reyes
what did he do?
though i think marvel wanted him replaced no matter what. only his chick seems to wanted to keep him even if she lost emma stone.
also who in their right mind thought marvel would give them thor?
Nathaniel Phillips
>How does this woman still have a job?
You even have to ask at this point?
Thomas Jenkins
journalists are literally caught lying these days. Brian Williams lied about some CRAZY ass shit and he is still on TV. The plot is not believable.
Anthony Jackson
christ i want to kill myself after reading that.
Benjamin Edwards
as someone who has done super spartans and tough mudders, I don't know anyone that has thought it was "no big deal" as they cross the finish line and know for the next week their body will have aches they didn't realize they could have. such bullshit. the entire thing is bullshit. It's no wonder movies are so bland.
Levi Butler
>84097933
>bad things happen to man >man gets mutated >uncle ben dies >man wants to kill other mutant >gets forced love interest >man defeats other mutant
the perfect formula
Grayson Morgan
Someone please explain me how retards like these get high paying positions and direct input on creative control.
Surely something else than nepotism is to blame for retarded shit like this.
Henry Gonzalez
They want a fucking $500 million dollar profit before making another Spider-man movie? Fucking kikes
Luke Gonzalez
Oh did they backtrack on Carnage being a woman good would've been fuckin' dumb.
Ethan Flores
The only way for Venom vs. Carnage movie to work is a straight R-rating with horror elements, otherwise what's the point?
Ryder Reed
Dude... how does the symbiote gets spider powers if it never bonded with Spider-Man?
Or are they scrapping the spider side of Venom and he's just a symbiote like the other ones?
Anthony Anderson
spidey snap is fucking cool
Jackson Williams
That's the kind of person Sony wants. Reminder that they immediately hired Tom Rothman as soon as he was fired from FOX for being the actual fucking devil and running the company into the dirt. He immediately replaced Pascall.
Adam Thomas
check the (((last names))), pal
Ian Fisher
What are you? 12 years old or something?
Caleb Hughes
Try again, Pascall is european.
Xavier Fisher
I love Topher, but he was a bad choice for Eddie.
He would have made a great Scorpion or Hobgoblin though.
Nicholas Hall
what. the. fuck.
Dominic Cook
Nah, but I mean that those characters are like the epitomes of edginess, that's why they are popular. If you water this shit down, they'll lose all of their appeal to their audience
Eli Sanchez
First time seeing the hacked sony emails?
Alexander Stewart
Fucking hell she is bonkers. The ideas at 9AM are ridiculous, the astronomical numbers, jesus christ. Does anyone in their inner circle not read that and think "jesus what is this bitch on?"
Blake Evans
That kid is right.
Carnage is basically: if you tell me to do something, I will do the opposite EDGY!!! If I tell myself to d something, I will also do the opposite because I'm a speshial snowflake of SUPEREDGINESS!!!
Wyatt Cox
she even looks like a crazy cat lady
Juan Wright
Are you an idiot, Carnage literally exists to be edgy venom.
Anthony Young
>just a couple of rando thoughts from 35,000 LAX-JFK
Hudson Phillips
>sound-based weaponry, when will this meme die?
Ian Green
When your mom finally accepts that she can't sing for shit.
Adrian Russell
Carnage is a serial killer who makes his arms into sharp objects to kill people. Rated R is the only way this character works properly, faggor.
Josiah Butler
wow how did you know? I always beg her to shut fuck up, but she never does.
Nathan Sanders
>2 billion dollars
Sheeeet :D Wtf were they thinking?
Cameron Fisher
anyone???
Henry Morales
Carnage is R-Rated character. Venom with PG-13 could work, but Carnage is too violent for PG-13.
Nathaniel Torres
Yet he became popular in a book meant for children.
>Pascal was born on March 25, 1958 in Los Angeles, California.[1] Her father, Anthony H. Pascal, was an economic researcher at the RAND Corporation who wrote about African American social inequality and the cost of AIDS.[1][2] Her mother, Barbara Pascal, was a librarian and owner of an art bookstore, Artworks.[1][2][3][4] Pascal attended Crossroads School in Santa Monica.[1][5] She then worked as a bookkeeper at Crossroads School while getting her international relations degree at UCLA.[1][5][3][6] She is Jewish
Grayson White
not children, it's literally meant for angsty teens It's basically the same fanbase as ICP
Jason Smith
The name, retard.
Juan Garcia
>a woman being depicted as having any character flaws >in the current year clearly you aren't a fan of modern media you problematic, sexist asshole.
Jose Williams
You expect them to know that?
Be realistic. They have retards do their research for them and they chose what they want out of it.
Xavier Price
Sony just doesn't understand or care. They'll do anything to shit out this movie without knowing the entire history of the symbiote, peter, brock etc.
David Bailey
Topher would have made a way better Spiderman than Tobey
That was the original idea for the movie, not a female Carnage. That came later. They wanted to build the movies up to Maximum Clonage by introducing characters. Carnage would have been introduced in the end of the movie that came before MM (but Cletus would have been in the movies before as a serial killer and Venom would have "killed" him as a fuck you to Spidey who let him live. That "death" would have made him become Carnage because a piece of the symbiote would have been stuck in him)
It was too ambitious an idea though.
Daniel Myers
*Maximum CARNAGE*
Fuck Maximum Clonage. That was the end of Spider-Man comics for me. It's such a sore spot that I made a Freudian.
Jayden Evans
This is actually a much more reasonable motivation for Brock. It NEVER made any sense to me that Brock would blame Spider-Man for his career being ruined instead of the Sin-Eater or the compulsive confessor that gave him the fake story in the first place. It also didn't make much sense to me that he was fired, since in the real world reporters have done bigger screw-ups without getting fired.
Parker Sanders
Sony should just go full "Fuck It" and just adapt Spiderverse.
Leo Torres
Not going to happen. They made Flash Thompson into a fat nerdy paki.
Gavin Baker
That was before army. The whole point of army is that ideally you stopped being a fatty after the training.