Why can't Looney Tunes recover? Is there just no place in today's cartoon climate for them? Will Space Jam 2 do it?

Why can't Looney Tunes recover? Is there just no place in today's cartoon climate for them? Will Space Jam 2 do it?

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It was always toons.

Space Jam 2 might kill them faster

Warner sat on them for god knows how long and kids just forgot about them.

I genuinely thought they had something going with The Looney Tunes Show, it wasn't everyone's cup of tea but it was trying something new, but NOT MUH LOONEY TUNESfags had to bitch and moan and now we have Wabbit, a mediocre show trying to emulate the old shorts without any of the charm or comedic timing (holy fuck comedic timing) that made the old shorts good.

>Why can't Looney Tunes recover?

Because it will never air on several major networks simultaneously, while having a shortage of options regarding other quality cartoons.

Also every new show they do is crippled by executive meddling forcing them to try to be exactly the same as (a fake idea of) the old looney tunes shorts.

Because it became shit after the 70's

It's at its best when they reran old 40s shorts on CN, and everything that was new was only for marketing and merchandising

>Because it became shit after the 70's

More like after the 50s
Or mid 60s if you're really feeling generous.

Seems like the case with a lot of the classic cartoons.
Popeye went downhill when the war started and just became unwatchable as the years went on too.

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Why would a cartoon series be called Looney Tunes and not Toons

How fucked up is this Bearstain universe?

...

It called Looney Tunes because WB's biggest asset when it got into animation against the other studios was it's huge library of licensed music. While Disney had to use public domain shit like nursery rhymes.

honestly, why do people even want new looney tunes when

>everyone who made the old ones great is dead
>shitty Mel Blanc soundalikes
>attempts at rejuvenating the brand flop
>attempts at doing something new with it are taken down a notch by fans

they can just rerun the old shorts and never do anything new ever again

Was Space Jam the last great hurrah of LT?

>they can just rerun the old shorts and never do anything new ever again

They really, really can't.

>shitty Mel Blanc soundalikes

This is the WORST for me, the impersonators they get are just not up to snuff one bit. It really is a son of a bitch when you have a character with such an immediately recognizable voice but after the guy behind the magic dies you're fucked.

Leading to that last awful Popeye SMC show in the early 80s where they wouldn't let them show Popeye beating people up and every episode had to end with a lesson on staying in school and not using drugs.

Considering that was also the last time Jack Mercer voiced the character before his death, he deserved a better finale than that.

that's honestly what Tartakovsky's animation test reminded me of, not a single punch thrown, no gruff mumbling take no shit Popeye, no pipe or tattoos, it was all moronic cutsey gag shit.

Space Jam wasn't even very funny, the entertainment value comes from how dumb it is.

Looney Tunes died with theatrical animation.

It was supposed to be popeye's origin story, that's also why he looked an sounded so much younger

i'm sorry but there are some characters who don't need an origin story, especially considering every Popeye short was in it's own continuity and/or portrayed as Popeye being an actor in the movies

"The first time I met Mel was when he was in the studio recording lines for Tweety Bird. So I go in there and he's sitting in the booth with a cigarette in one hand and an oxygen mask in the other. And he'd take a puff of his cigarette and a gulp of oxygen and then read his line off. So I notice he sounds absolutely nothing like Tweety Bird and I'm all like 'Oh no, he's lost it. He can't do the voice anymore.' Then I go in the back room afterwards and the sound engineer does something with the tape and when he plays it back, perfect Tweety Bird. So I said to him 'What did you do?' and he says 'Oh, we speed the tape recording up.' Then I say 'How long have you been doing this?' and he says 'Ever since Mel first got the job in the '30s.' So a bit later, I come out and greet Mel and I'm all confused and stammering and say to him 'Oh gee, I guess you're not as good as I thought you were.' And I remember my mother's standing there and she looks totally embarrassed. And then Mel reaches into his pocket, takes out a piece of yellow notepad paper and a pen, scribbles his autograph on it, and hands it to me. Then he says 'Quit while you're ahead, kid.' and walks out of the room."

-- Bob Bergen

You know how all Flintstones after the original series bombed?

Yeah...

I know many of us are just tired of Looney Tunes having seen them all a million times, but they really are masterpieces. They are the best slapstick gag-based cartoons.

Just let it die with dignity. The formulas are all played out, we don't need new Looney Tunes cartoons, just go back and watch the old ones again.

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Do """"""""urban youth"""""""" still wear these bizarre ghetto Looney Tune shirts?

>Warner sat on them for god knows how long and kids just forgot about them.

You guys know they still air both Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry on Cartoon Network, right? And no, I don't mean Boomerang.

Easy--John K didn't direct them. Remember that the ghost of Tex Avery himself appeared to him in a dream and told him he was chosen to carry on the torch of animation.

No and those things were the ultimate 90s nigger/white trash symbol.

>Why would a cartoon series be called Looney Tunes and not Toons?

merrie melodies
silly symphonies
happy harmonies

I'd hate to even think about the disaster that would result from John K direction a LT short.

yeah really, last time I saw them was back in middle school in the early 2000's and as a big Looney Tunes fan I was so baffled why Tweety bird was being worn by droopy pants niggers

definitely

I saw somebody wearing one last year.

he was way ahead of his time.
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>never get done because he'd spend three months redoing 5 frames of animation
>would have nothing but bad middle school-tier grossout/sex jokes

Why do I suddenly have this urge to listen to Pantera right now?

I don't understand the logic of it. For lack of a better word it epitomizes random.
What the FUCK does Looney Tunes have to do with ghetto "culture".

>Is there just no place in today's cartoon climate for them?
Works fine for Mickey.

Is it better or worse than the Mickey Mouse bodybuilding shirt trend

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also spengbab the weed lmao

Yeah but I doubt that is official Nickelodeon merchandise like the Disney one is.

Even then, Disney has had periods where their characters were irrelevant, especially the late 80s when they became worried that more kids knew who Nintendo characters were than Mickey and Donald.

And even then, the Disney stable has never been as big in the US as it is in Europe and Japan.

>spark it up Bob
lol

That kind of slapstick and witty humor isn't what is popular now

don't forget about lunatics unleashed

please stop making new series abouts looney tunes, scooby doo, transformers, etc.

Does anything scream 'late 90's early 2000's' more than this bullshit?

>Ace Bunny
>Slam Tasmanian

They'll probably keep doing new Scooby Doo stuff until Frank Welker dies.

It was this exact shirt actually

He was going to be named Buzz Bunny but they had to change it last minute because that's already the name of a line of vibrators

I agree with this statement. My little sister, nieces and nephews all prefer Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Harvey Beaks, Star Vs, etc. Things that are more down to earth.

When I put on Looney Tunes, Animaniacs and Tom and Jerry, they loose interest real quick, which is a shame since I legitimately find those funny. I mean I still enjoy SU for comfy and story if I need a good laugh, I'll put on some Hannah-Barbera or Warner Bros.

>Does anything scream 'late 90's early 2000's' more than this bullshit?

That's a prime example of stupid executive meddling.

Buzz Bunny is a fine name, literally doesn't matter at all that the name is shared with some obscure sex product - after the show airs a bunch of gross fetish porn of the characters will show up in google image search anyway!

I'm surprised Loonatics Unleashed was so good for all it's executive meddling.

honestly I blame the infighting between the Warner and CN portions of Time-Warner that led to Looney Tunes not being aired on television for the better part of a decade, caused an entire generation of children to lose their connection with them, while other franchises crept in

LT were cool in the 90s because grossout/x-treme humor was in style then. Of course now it is not and instead the in-thing is characters who have no clearly defined sexuality and spout unfunny 9gag memes from 5 years ago.

Note also they packed it in with the Flintstones once Jean Vander Pyle was dead.

Looney Tunes Show was good. It was a proper modernization of the franchise- the old shorts were based on the jokes and references of the time, and the show was based on current themes.

Plus it was actually funny and made people like the characters

>transformers

m8 the last decade has given us some of the best Transformers stuff we've ever had

I think the Flintstones had less potential than LT because it was literally based on a 50s sitcom. Not much headroom there.

More fair. If the old shorts were based around making fun of 1940s pop culture, then who says we can't do same with today's pop culture.

>hating on mystery inc

Absolute shit tier taste

It's certainly an improvement on the old 1986 Transformers movie which nostalgic manchildren aside was just a typical phoned in 80s toy advertisement.

>the younger generation has been pacified by cuck media

boy they're really banking on turning as many kids gay as possible huh

The shows you mentioned are different from stuff like Looney Tunes in that the direction of modern shows, the plotline is more grounded in the show's specific lore and not the easily observable/adaptable situations of the Looney Tunes. One character wants to eat another character, the other has to survive. This character doesn't know how to do his newfound job right. That character is trying some crazy get-rich-quick scheme. The sources of conflict don't easily grab kids' attention like modern shows, but they hit much more closely to home for adults, making the cartoonish slapstick and unrealistic scenarios even more hilarious in those types of situations. Old cartoons were about mimicking real world and bringing out its most grotesque form possible; new cartoons are about creating obviously-fantasy worlds where the grotesque is commonplace.

But I'm sure someone is just going to dismiss it all as "tumblr's fault" and that will be the accepted answer.

You should really know more about animation if you're going to be posting on a board about it senpai

>Old cartoons were about mimicking real world and bringing out its most grotesque form possible

That could even apply to classic Simpsons.

Then again, Mel in the later years sounded just like the 70-something chain smoker he was. I mean, he sounded so slow, gravelly, and listless compared to his 1947 self. They actually started looking for replacements for him in the early 80s because they knew he wasn't going to be around much longer.

That's too bad because Masako Nozawa is like 79 in this video and still sounds great and has lots of energy.

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She hasn't smoked 10 packs of cigarettes every day since she was like 11 years old though.

Also I mean, Mel Blanc was born a quarter century earlier. He was from an earlier generation and lived in a time when health care wasn't as good.

And Japanese diet vs American diet.

ESPECIALLY classic Simpsons.

Lucky Obama will be gone soon.

Hillary will either make it 10 times worse or simply ban cartoons outright.

Because they lost the formula that made them good.

Although I don't see how she can ban cartoons from a prison cell.

What was Mel's last Looney Tunes performance?

Who Framed Roger Rabbit

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Still not as bad as Clarence Nash at the end.

Now I saw a video from the mid-2000s of June Foray at almost 90 and she was still able to do her voices great.

>YFW SJ2 manages to revert the LT back into their 90s "radical" shit.

Again, she didn't chain smoke for 60 years. As noted earlier in the thread, Mel Blanc actually needed an oxygen tank in his last years.

>hating TLTS
>hating What's New
>hating Mystery Inc
>hating Transformers Animated
>hating Transformers Prime

I just found TLTS really boring, personally. Like I dug the concept, the animation was nice and the artstyle was perfect, but the humor just fell flat. It didn't click with me at all, no matter how much I wanted to like it. The beach episode was the only episode I really liked.

>mfw a HillShill near me

It doesn't and that's why people like it. It's all about the contrast, which makes the whole thing bizarrely interesting. It's like buying a t-shirt with Darth Vader enjoying a tea party with Hello Kitty.

I still haven't been able to find a more cringeworthy cover for a music album to this very day.

>sparkitupbob

Batman Beyond is xtremely 90's

>implying le god wont win one for da tunes

Will Space Jam 2 be canon?