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What was Hussies biggest mistake and why was it Dave forgoing pounding Jade's delicious brown snatch?

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>Homebuck is a story in a alternate timeline where hussie explained everything and it became the best comic ever. ACT 7 won a nobel peace prize. everyone is gay now

>brown

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Good.
Do you want shitposters crawling in?

You have to stop thinking of them as 'offscreen retcons' and see them more as 'Time-travel with some extra allowances.'

Didn't we see Dave time travel for weeks around his kids session? Wait we also didn't, there was so much time travel done offscreen, and yet it it's still accepted.
It's equally acceptable that even Doomed-Timeline Dave's did a lot of time travel.
Why is so hard to swallow that John's Time Travel steps could've happened off screen or in another timeline? Especially when we see a John suddenly popping up in Caliborn's land, despite the lead-up being completely off screen.

John doesn't erase or replace other timelines.
All you need to understand about the way 'retcons' work is it allows him to jump between different timelines and make his count for him.

For instance he didn't affect the furthest ring at all. Both the pre and post-retcon Meteor journey happened in Paradox space independently of one another even before we saw the second instance. But John changed the events in the Troll Sburb session so that the latter would become of importance to the reader and that John. The other one either became, or always 'was' a Doomed timeline.

>he didn't affect the furthest ring at all.
then explain Dave and Rose, who were retconned while they were in the furthest ring

For fuck's sake I put "Homestuck" in my filter for a reason and it's not so that it'd get circumvented by silly wacky misspellings.

dont forgot homosuck and hamsteak

whyd you open the thread? just add homebuck to your filter and get on with your life, no need to tell everyone.

I just explained it. Both pre-retcon and post-retcon meteor trips happened independently of each other, neither was replaced or removed by John's actions. However affecting the Troll session made the latter prominent in John's journey so it could lead up to the point where John zaps back into his canon reality.

It's just your perception of the term 'Retcon' which is causing the confusion.

>Both pre-retcon and post-retcon meteor trips happened independently of each other,
And both trips had a Dave and a Rose. So where did the second pair of Dave and Rose come from?

A sburb session, obviously?
Abit a session in a different timeline started from a different timeline Earth.
Paradox, unlike Skaia houses the infinite potential of reality, but doesn't have the ability to separate them into their neat little lines apart and distinct from each other.

That's why when traveling beyond the furthest ring, you can meet your past or future self by accident without intending to.

the green sun must be affected by retcons just like stuff in sessions. so there is one green sun that was always there but its removed by the retcon to make space for another green sun that was always there. homestuck ladies n gents

probably to get people to stop coming up with homestuck corruptions so he doesn't have to keep adding things to his filter

these threads shouldn't even exist anymore

So Dave and Rose were duplicated from within an SBURB session. Which means they made separate journeys to the furthest ring (like the meteor), and made two different Green Suns?

No there's only one green sun nitwit.
Retcons are just glorified time travel, they don't affect paradox space at all except from the vantage of the user of them.

well they do, and theyve stayed mostly on topic for the last two and a half months as well as had a lot of new oc so they deserve to stick around as long as thats true

Do Homestuck characters even have a race?

Yes and No, it's likely made separate journeys with the same result, abit without creating separate suns.

This is where it'll get really confusing, the Green sun doesn't have a true origin point, as in a beginning or an end. So it's, within the realm of Paradox Space capable of being created in two instances despite their only being one singular instance of it. It has the same omniscient time-excluding properties of the 'Void' but with a physical presence.

go and think about the implications of the other rules that appear to apply to retcons again and youll see that working out whether there are two green suns or not is a legitimate consideration.

They're canon Íæûë€Å

>Its that guy who visits threads just to complain about them existing

>tfw still no new CANWC

Yes they're all black or have vitiligo and are muscular.

They're aracial. Hussie pretends that means they are Schrödinger's omnirace, but in reality trying to give them any race at all is the noncanonical thing.

>'retcons arent glitchy' - some guy
>retcons add like 99 plot holes and imply two green suns
sure sounds fuckin glitchy to me. sounds like they broke the fucking story.

>why was it Dave forgoing pounding Jade's delicious brown snatch?

There's still the epilogue

I don't think there can be two green suns, since it's a carte blank against the timeline keeping as a whole. It's like there being two "Voids", there's only one void, and yet paradoxically an infinite amount of it.

In the same essence there's an infinite number of Green Suns and yet only One. So rather than being two, or ten or a billion, the possibility just reaches infinity, until the Green Sun is absolute. Alternatively, Dave and Rose split off from the moment their bombs go off and they leave the Meteor Journey endless amounts of times but without the timelines as neatly kept.

Your theory doesn't make any sense. We see BOTH the Green Sun's origin and its end.

Face it, the simplest explanation is that John's retcons affect the furthest ring. Only the dream bubbles are unaffected.

Guys, let's be honest here. The ending isn't that bad and you would have been disappointed no matter what we got regardless of quality

They're ajjliums just like superman or goku

>very first page of the epilogue confirms davejade
>website explodes
>reddit goes ballistic
>tipsy commits suicide
>MSPAF comes back
>homestuck readership numbers go back to the millions
>hussie releases hiveswap and it's actually good
>shelby starts only charging ten dollars for drawings
>you wake up from this dream

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why would the green sun count as part of the furthest ring? its as much its own special area as any sburb session. retcons could affect the green sun just fine while not affecting the rest of the furthest ring.

Why not apply the same logic to the dream bubbles?

It's really bad though.

Fucking reddit can't even defend it.

They're any race. Except black. Which is very racist of Hussie.

>We see BOTH the Green Sun's origin and its end.
Yes, this is the paradox of the Green sun and it's significance. Paradoxes don't make sense. It has an origin and destruction, and yet 'always was', somehow as the story makes clear.

My Over-Theory that I posted last thread, was that this paradox was breached and ripped even further by the fact that,
1)In the new Retconned reality John creates, Calliope rips apart the sun giving it an ending point
2)The Sun itself will be destroyed within the cycle of universes so this time Doc Scratch and Bec doesn't have an power source thus LE doesn't have an entry point
The paradox created here, is that the GS has a destruction, a clear end point but no origin or creation in this new reality. It has like a negative existence.
A paradox so powerful, that it was able to weaken LE at the precise moment the Juju was used. Whereas usually paradoxes manifest in doomed timelines, this one was significant enough that it depowered him completely.

he's working on a flash

you think dave basically just turned prison gay?

The ending tied up no ends, and didn't even feature anything from Huss, neither art nor words.

Small reminder that Hussie stated he really liked the ending of LOST.

I think it both counts as part of the furthest ring, but has it's own temporal/spacial properties within it's domain as well just like the VOID.

>bad writing is a glitch

no wait

it kind of is

fuck

The ending sucked

So soon after the last one?

That doesn't solve the Dave/Rose problem anyway. The retcon timeline, the timeline including Vriska, starts before the meteor reaches the Green Sun. Dave and Rose originally boarded the meteor without Vriska. A retcon at the Green Sun's locality would just result in another meteor with Dave and Rose but not Vriska.

Oh! And
3)In the new reality neither universe was destroyed making LE's existence all together completely negated, thus the 8's. He became an unperson in one section of paradox space
Of course because of his immortality and indestructibility he wasn't erased, but it opened up a weakness, a glitch for others to exploit.

>these threads shouldn't even exist anymore
If they shouldn't exist then mods would delete them. But they always stay up so clearly you're in the wrong here.

well how is dad gonna ascend otherwise????

Well you know once Jade came back he instantly started acting less gay, so probably

I think he became "My Daddy/Brother abused me and raped my ass with gay puppets for 12 years so I went homo" gay.

>Paradoxes don't make sense.
if this is the basis for your theory you could use it to justify literally anything
everything is provable in a system of logic that accepts contradictory axioms

I don't give a damn about the ending. I'm angry about nearly the full second half of the comic completely sidelining most of the protagonists and the wondrous sense of ridiculous video game adventure in favor of ever-increasing amounts of teen drama and inanity.

I mostly enjoyed the ending for what it was, since I'd long since given up.

Dave and Jade's gentle lovemaking because dave is afraid of going more hardcore

You can't rape someone into a particular sexuality.

They have been Caucasian since the beginning, but then Tumblr got mad so Hussie backpedaled in order to pander to them.

Somebody post the pic of all the logs where the kids are referred to as pink/white by the trolls on multiple occasions.

>starts before the meteor reaches the Green Sun
>before
Timelines don't exist in the Furthest Ring.
There is no 'before/after'.
Retcon timeline Rose/Dave exist in the same span of narrative space Pre-retcon do, even before they were introduced to us.

>A retcon at the Green Sun's locality
This isn't possible because there's no time, space, or agency within the furthest ring itself, outside it being localized to the players. Any retcons have to be done within a sburb session or things would go haywire and get really weird.

Is it possible Hussie just didn't think the retcons through?

Not specifically, and not all at once
But it does still affect your development
I'm not one of those people who believes "Your sex is determined hardcore at babbydom"

Pretty much this.

Try to keep up. I was responding to the question "what if the Green Sun itself is like a session?"

Anyway, retcons affect the furthest ring. It's the only way to explain how Dave and Rose, who created the only Green Sun in existence, were duplicated.

People who get molested by their parents are more likely to like incest porn.

Bullshit

yeah. im tied 100% to the idea that the juju is the comic and the retcons are metafictional and ill unironically ignore small things that dont fit with that because too much does, and the theory ties together too many themes and explains caliborns character and the nature of lord english as the demiurge too well. if something doesnt fit, its just a fucking plot hole in my eyes.

its like how i dont try and do mental gymnastics about how time must apply differently to help someone turn the frog switch. no, its a plot hole. ive accepted it.

yes

List of other things he didn't think through:
-The trolls living and being major characters past act 5
-Adding more trolls in act 6
-Reviving both serkets
-The Game Over session
-Time management
-The kickstarter/its timing
-commissioning the ending animation 4 years before finishing the comic which had already become extremely volatile

there are too many to list

He should've just made it into a joke about how are all the characters are literally white like paper

Nope.

That's also a possibility, but it's way less fun to just say that than it is try to figure out the logical trajectory behind them.

Sorry, I didn't read who you were replying to.
And they do but they don't. It's important to differentiate how differing time works in Sessions as opposed to the 'All-At-Once' nature of the furthest ring, so anything out there was already accounted for. They've retconned and 'affected' it before we're aware of it or the changes being natured in.

So you could say the retcons affect the furthest ring..paradoxically. They only offer a tautological repetition, not a real change.

>-Adding more trolls in act 6
C'mon they show up for like 3 whole flash pages. He could've done worse with that.
They're like the equivalent of Bleach's Vizards.

then the characters could never be black and then we're right back in square one with tumblr screaming and kicking while going "muh diversity tho"

>mfw

>ill unironically ignore small things that dont fit with that because too much does
homestuck is a puzzle user
if you can only come up with answers that create contradictions then you're just not smart enough
there's no chance that Hussie stopped giving a shit and didn't verify his own logic

The problem there is that it doesn't really explain some things, like the implication of what Caliborn's Juju did to the Beta Kids.

What, did they retroactively become the protagonists of the story? Because it's too fucking late for Jade.

Maybe, but did you know that poor people prefer large breasts, while rich people prefer smaller breasts?
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>They've retconned and 'affected' it before we're aware of it or the changes being natured in. So you could say the retcons affect the furthest ring..paradoxically. They only offer a tautological repetition, not a real change.
Walk me through it. Explain it to me like I'm five. How did both meteors have a Dave and a Rose, each with the experience of creating the Green Sun, without retconning the creation of the Green Sun itself? One Dave and Rose met Vriska immediately after creating the Green Sun. The other Dave and Rose did not.

>aranea and meenah don't count

Doubt he'll confirm any ships now, he's too much of a pussy to do it.

>if something doesnt fit, its just a fucking plot hole in my eyes.
The nature of the Juju and retcons are a literal plot intended in
See:mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007978
>Wait, shouldn't Casey have reached adulthood in that timeframe, or at least gotten somewhat bigger? You seem to recall from earlier somewhere that salamanders have short lifespans, and grow up quickly. Oh well, you decide to graciously disregard the one and only plothole in this elaborate tale. In fact you think you will use your dark sorcery to make it - POOF - disappear! Ha ha, what problem?
See Hussies older Problem Sleuth Donation pages to understand this better.

Rose isn't 100% lesbian, right? RIGHT?

>responding to stale pasta

He's so fucking stupid it hurts. Giving nobody ANYTHING because giving one person something makes the rest feel bad is not a correct solution. They all feel bad because they got nothing! If I was a teacher I would mark Act 7's soccerfield epilogue scene wrong with a big red X and write "see me after class" on it.

i think theyre probably sposed to be the gnostic 'divine spark'. the little part of gods true world that is trapped in certain people within the demiurges false reality. setting the divine spark free is the basic goal of gnostic teachings, its how we end the shit world and go back to the real one.

Entirely possible. I'm sure that a fair part of the problem was Hussie simply wanting to be done so he can move on to finishing the nightmare of Hiveswap, and then other projects. He's very obviously burnt out on Homestuck, undoubtedly thanks in no small part to the Kickstarter turning Homestuck from a fun creative outlet into a grueling legal nightmare.
>homestuck readership numbers go back to the millions

>wanting the mouthbreathers to come back

Right.

She isn't a lesbian at all. She just goes for the person with the largest phallic...thing between their legs.

She will only have heterosexual relations while in grimdark mode.

she pegs Kocknaya so yes 100% lesbian

If I was a teacher I would politely ask Hussie to leave the class and pass on to the relevant authorities that a strange man has been hanging around the school

That seems like a bad argument.

Alright anons, against my better judgment should I give it read? What am I in for?

Stop after act 5 and pretend they all died. Trust me.

Okay dokay

Paradox is a magical space land where things don't make sense

In the center is a huge lime flavored snowcone! It's super-big

In this magical land things made can be remade for fun!

It doesn't make 2 things, since that thing is magical too

In fact there could be like infinity Snowcones made and there'd only be one snowcone, this really doesn't make much sense but it's magic remember?

Try to think of a magical time when it was snowing squirt. There was lots of snowy fields and white blankets, brrr! Lots of snow flakes fell... but even if a bajillion fell there was still only ONE snowy blanket!!!

How does that happen? It's just part of the magical nature of snow!

And in this magical land there are so many other yous! You might not meet them... even if they're right where you are!

This is confusing but the place is magic and doesn't make sense! A you can arrive after you leave and still stand where you are but before you even got there , you just have to accept it, like Santa claus! Cause we know he can visit every Chimney in the world right?

So when or who visits this magical land and adds more limey flashy bomby things to the Snowcone doesn't matter- it'll still be one pretty one for you to look at. Shouldn't there be more? Remember the snow field thingy, an infinite number of snowflakes still only makes on pretty white blanket.

red herrings, plot holes, and anticlimax

Rose is gayer than a pride parade made out of all Australians passing under a rainbow and getting shot at by muslims in front of an HIV research lab.

Better than the straggler fujoshits we're stuck with now who think Hussie can do no wrong and Davekat made the Supreme Court legalize gay marriage

She loves Kanaya and shows no interest in men so yes I'd say she meets the classification of a lesbian.
>Inb4 hurr durr she wanted Dave's Dick

something unlike anything else youve read. fucking excellent music. Loads Of Laughs. Loads Of bad decisions. some absolute genius. its definitely worth reading.