Most illigals are from central america and not mexicans.
Colton Sanchez
When they say that illegals are less incarcerated than the "native-born", what they really is mean is they're less incarcerated than blacks, which is technically true, but not the image most people have in their mind (whites).
Mexican Americans holding US citizenship are a little over 36 million, around 12% of the population.
No, they're counting everyone in "native born" including hispanics themselves, OP is not accounting for "what they really mean" and is disngenous for you to try and make that point for him without any data, particularly as his remains unsourced.
This is without even going into the issue of systemic racism in American law enforcement.
Justin Murphy
>It's the Finnish Sup Forumstard that posts fake shit without sources.
Really makes me think.
Samuel Jones
This is a whole new level of dishonest, OP talked about illegals and you brought up immigrants in general. Trust me, if I went to the US I would not want to be associated with Juan the crack-dealer
Nolan Hall
No, the article I posted specifically discusses unauthorized migrants, talk about dishonesty jackass
Oliver Wilson
I saw a statistic a few years ago that pointed out that white Americans have the same murder rate as Belgians.
Butthurt much?
Adam Diaz
meh, just setting the record straight
John Thomas
No Pedro, the article is a complete bait-and-switch. It starts off talking about BLUMPFS remarks about illegals then changes subject to immigrants in general and then talks about how crime dropped while illegal entry rose (which does not equal any kind of causation).
Ryan Ross
American whites are disproportionately violent too. Their whitest and safest state, Maine, still has a homicide rate of 1.7 per 100k
Jeremiah Moore
So? Thats not much when compared to more multi-ethnic areas
Joshua White
Yes, the study quoted by the article refers to immigrants in general, that does not disqualify it or make the data irrelevant unless you yourself are jumping to make assumptions, as for the correlation it is indicative, and presented as such.
You're dishonest as fuck, the numbers in your OP are just plain ridiculous.
Here's an article that walks you through debunking this tripe as if you were an 11 year old idiot, take a close look at steps 4. 5 and 6.
Wow you are so racist. How can people say this in 2018
Adam Taylor
Compare it to their Canadian neighbors in New Brunswick. Maine and New Brunswick have similar culture, populations, lifestyle, demographics, climate and ecology, rural/urban populations, average age, history, and economic industries. Maine actually has more money and a lower unemployment rate. Despite this Maine's homicide rate is 1.7 and New Brunswick's is 46% lower at 0.79 There is no real way to explain this other than to say that Americans are inherently more violent, despite race.
Carson Miller
you havent shit posted Muslims or Pakis yet was suspecting that shit in your thread you right though but, same subset, less oppurtunities, more suffering
Probably around same because Slovenia and niggers barely make up their population.
James Reed
Does New Brunswick have an urban area close to size as Portland, Maine? Urban life style shows very positive correlation with higher rates of crime.
Ian Bailey
>Yes, the study quoted by the article refers to immigrants in general, that does not disqualify it or make the data irrelevant unless you yourself are jumping to make assumptions, as for the correlation it is indicative, and presented as such.
The issue was illegals and it did not refer to them, yet you drew conclusions from the article so you were in the wrong there. The data is completely irrelevant to the thing you brought up.
>You're dishonest as fuck, the numbers in your OP are just plain ridiculous S e e t h i n g. Not OP btw.
> Here's an article that walks you through debunking this tripe as if you were an 11 year old idiot, take a close look at steps 4. 5 and 6. ayy lmao, Literally the same bait-and-switch again. Take a good look a step 4, Jorge. Notice how the dropped the "illegal"?
Oliver Wright
You're literally directing people to an FBI link? Is this some kind of troll? Anyway here's the compiled data already anlyzed without my having to play police office flunkie.
You've just proven yourself wrong dumbass, did you think posting a random link was going to do the trick?
Jayden Jenkins
Damn i butchered the post, hope no one can notice i phoneposted....
Blake Jackson
>Despite race Haha, american whites may be more violent but introduce hispanics or blacks and youll wish you were in shartland
Mason Nelson
Population of Maine's 3 biggest cities: >Portland 66k >Lewiston 36k >Bangor 32k
Population of New Brunswick's biggest cities >Moncton 72k >St. John 69k >Fredericton 58k
Like urbanisation, poverty also generally shows a correlation with crime. Maine >Per capita household income $46,933 ($5,000 below national average) >Unemployment rate 3.5%
New Brunswick >Per capita household income $42,941 ($14,000 below national average) >Unemployment rate 6.5%
Maybe it's age, most crimes are committed by people in the 18-35 age range, maybe Maine is much younger? Nope, average age in Maine is 43.5 and in New Brunswick it's 43.4, so really the same but NB is actually a hair younger.
There is absolutely no way to reconcile it except to say that Americans are inherently more violent by a substantial margin. Judging by age, poverty, and urbanisation NB should be more violent, not 46% less
Cooper Gray
That's also not true though, the data just doesn't support it.
Ayden Carter
Lets send them to the land of opportunities then, Pakistan suuperpooper 2030!
Angel Perry
>le_negative_argumentum_man.jpg
Anthony Carter
Did you actually see the abstract for the study? Look I'm not going to go through the motions of fact checking every single reference there, that second generation migrants (born and or raised in the US) have signifficantly higher crinme rates than first generation (which even going by an all migrants definition should be significantly impacted by unauthorized) should be significant in and of itself, unless you want to argue documented migrants greatly outnumber undocumented.
Here's politifact "Specifically for Mexican men ages 18 to 39, the incarceration rate in 2010 was 2.8 percent, compared to 10.7 percent for native-born men in the same age group"
>whooah youre refering to the most relevant federal agency to deal with crime as a source? Fake news. >listen to this random magazine instead that talks about crime in metro areas instead
Joseph Perez
Let's just look at the 10 Canadian provinces to your white America then. We will keep all of our blacks, hispanics, Indians, etc. In the 10 provinces the homicide rate is .59 According to you in your all white America it's 1.26 If it is just race and has nothing to do with Americans in general how is 80% white Canada that much safer (47%) than your 100% white America?
You don't seem to get it, yes whites are drastically safer than blacks and Hispanics, but American whites are still disproportionately more violent than other places. Also, aboriginals in Canada are 3 times more likely to commit a crime than African-Americans. So the idea that lacks are the most dangerous is also erroneous.
Connor James
>Did you actually see the abstract for the study? Look I'm not going to go through the motions of fact checking every single reference there, that second generation migrants (born and or raised in the US) have signifficantly higher crinme rates than first generation (which even going by an all migrants definition should be significantly impacted by unauthorized) should be significant in and of itself, unless you want to argue documented migrants greatly outnumber undocumented. Literally cant figure out what youre trying to argue in this spaghetti-statement
also >fbi is not a legit source >but fucking politihack is brainlet of the centuary
Ryan Adams
Chinks have lower crime rates than whites, not sure about poos but theyre probably not that criminal and dont aboriginals make up fuck all of the total population? That doenst really dispute what i said, try importing blacks as a social experiment and tell me what happends
Matthew Smith
Anyone else love serious discussion?
Matthew Reyes
Now compare the population representation of CEOs responsible for fucking over the world economy and planetary ecosystem. How many blacks were responsible for the 2008 economic crisis? White collar crime has greater devastation to far more lives than the number of murders in any nation combined. Stay a dumb Sup Forumsnigger, though.
Austin Reed
I never said the FBI isn't a legit source, I'm saying I don't need extra reasons to have my IP address flagged idiot. Also you didn't link to numbers but to a downloadable data set that's work to comb through, you might as well ask people to use google to prove your right moron, usually sourcing doesn't mean I want to actually waste my time going through raw fucking data and looking into methodology, that's why I provided a link of it's already done for you by a resource for American government officials.
And the politifact data stands. You're just trolling here and doing propaganda on lies piece of shit racist. Your original claimdebunks itself on your being too stupid to make up plausible numbers. You're saying over one fifth of murders in the US are done by illegals when the prepoderance of evidence clearly points otherwise.
Dylan Gomez
95% of blacks wouldnt be alive if it werent for the white mans technology and they would live in mud huts, so you gain some you lose some.
Jaxon Jenkins
>A wh*Te ((person)) is responsible for the stupid post
Also the thing you linked either once again conflated immigrants or tok prison population as indictive of crime level which might not make sense since some illegals just get deported instead of serving a sentence
Lucas Edwards
>illegals just get deported instead of serving a sentence You're grasping at straws here, that wouldn't e the case for murder. Once again according to you 1 in 5 murders in the US is an illegal. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
You have to be disconnected deep inside your alt right bubble if you think those numbers are in any way plausible.
Henry Gonzalez
If non-murdering illegals got deported and murdering once stayed in prison it could easily cause and underrepresentation in prison and overrepresentation in murder. >alt-right Did you just assume my political leaning? I'll have you know im a classical liberalist.
Doesnt refute OP, if the white majority in the UK is more peaceful than in the US it doesnt mean the pakis and blacks and what not are more violent