How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #292

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Previous thread Dead for 6 hours edition.

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myscriptfont.com/
artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
quickposes.com/pages/timed
senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
shutterstock.com/
pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
tumblr.com/theme/39018
pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
blambot.com/
cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
makingcomics.com/composition/
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>*-We also got a DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A

>Invisible Ink:
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

Trying out a new brush, what do you guys think? Use it in the comic or just use it for doodles outside of the comic?

Friend just started the artwork yesterday. I'm super excited, although feel kinda useless since I cannot draw.

Whoops! forgot pic!

It doesn't matter how many brushes you change or how many coloring techniques you try if you never bother to fix the underlying structure of the characters and learn the craft of making comics.

makingcomics.com/composition/

>Replying
Arguing with a rock would be more productive.

What's your comic going to be about?

Fantasy setting where a freedom fighter and an Angel team up to stop machine abominations from starting a world war.


If you want some more detail just let me know.

>Angels
>Freedom Fighters
>Machine Abominations

you just hit all three of my soft spots

I feel like we have to say it every few threads just so new people don't think we're letting his shit slide.

Even if it doesn't penetrate his skull (that would mean he'd actually have to bother reading anything) maybe someone else can get some use out of it.

Truth. The tripfag is definitely brain damaged in some regard though. Over 2 years and he draws nearly the same as he did at the start. Though I do get some schadenfreude from knowing that no matter how stupid I am, I will never be that stupid. Being so retarded that you not only can't learn, but can't process the fact that the fault is with you, is a special kind of inescapable hell. Feels good knowing that a couple years from now, he'll still be just as retarded.

Why are people trying to convince dewd to switch his art style when it looks fine by cartoon standards??? It's the mans drawing style , fuck off and leave him be ??????

t. dewd

you have no opinion here until you post your work buddy

at least is better than the ones posting about their incredible stories while they can't even draw a proper face

Coldfusion, everybody.

It looks garbage by any standard. "Cartoon" is not the same as "garbage." There's a reason Dustin doesn't get the same shit as dewd.

>Over 2 years and he draws nearly the same as he did at the start
I'm sick of this meme.

Dewd is shit, and stubborn, and retarded, and oblivious, and he will never be *good* but his current work is MILES ahead of when he first started West Tree.

Let's see your work, Coldfusion. Oh wait - you're no better than Dewd!

will you show me? or is it that you can't even do a porportioned figure? :^)

Because it's a huge detriment to his comic. 9 out of 10 people who see a page will go "ew, ugly" and not read it.

...Dewd CAN'T draw a proper face, that's part of the problem.

> you're no better than Dewd!
That's a bit harsh. CF's composition is miles ahead of Dewd, and he can actually draw a decent looking character on the rare occasion that he bothers to go outside of his terrible self-imposed no-detail chibi style.

Look. Art style isn't the only thing in making comics. Did you even notice that the page I linked isn't about the art but composition?

I don't know if you actually believe this or if you're just trying to bait more people into attacking Dewd to throw off the thread. It's not cute.

part of the problem here is that no one will listen to strangers on the internet unless they show their work, show us how you know your shit enough to criticize dewd

You fucking disgust me.

You wouldn't change your tune if user was Jean God Damn Giraud, but you still have the gall to hide behind the fallacy that spectators cannot inform artists. You're resorting to a momentary "victory" with the backup of being able to ignore them if they challenge credibility.

In short, go fuck yourself.

But you know what? I'll humor you FOR user. This pic is something I sketched up a week or two back. It's shit, but the reason I wouldn't be pelted with constant shitposts like Dewd is that actual effort was applied.

The limbs are extended beyond normal lengths to help confirm the impression of a frog, and the hips and forearms are wide to bring balance, keeping it from looking lanky. There's consistence in three dimensional space with the exception of the eyes, which are deliberately kept simple and appealing regardless of the angle.

Dewd doesn't try to have a consistent base for his characters or understand how or why the elements of his designs exist and coordinate. That's why he gets shit.

Everyone else takes anonymous crits. Being as petulant as you are is the exception, not the rule.

THICK

Don't humor coldfusion.

I'm not even comment your drawings, which are convenitently named as "last minute sketches" to show how fast and without effort you made them!
Don't get me wrong I'm not praising dewd's art, I'm just sick the way you nonchalantly insult other's artwork without proper advice, and if he doesn't take the advide, just ignore him why even bother?

>and he can actually draw a decent looking character on the rare occasion that he bothers to go outside of his terrible self-imposed no-detail chibi style
Pretty sure he just traces poses for those.

And copies the faces.

>tfw you wake up to a nice roast of coffee and dewd

What makes you say that?
Besides, even if he was making them by summoning demons into the material realm and making dark contracts with them, I don't care about the process, just the end result.

Stop getting butthurt when people tell you to learn to draw, Zach.

Hey, Dewd, would it help if one of us gave you an example of how your work could look a little better or less cluttered, that way you can have a visual reference or example of what we're talking about when we say shit about line weights and tangents and what not?

You don't need to be a chef to know when food tastes like shit, faggot.

No, it wouldn't because he doesn't WANT to learn. He believes he deserves praise for how it already is. And now he'll pretend to take the advice graciously, then take off his trip and continue to shitpost. Fuck him.

I think this energy would be better directed at other artists who are willing to put in the effort. There are plenty of new webcomic artists here who would benefit from such hands on advice, and seeing THEIR improvement would be more helpful for dewd. His problem is his attitude

I'd love to do redlines/redraws/etc of anyone's work here. I just picked Dewd because his stuff is so consistently "off" in ways that could be easily fixed with some tweaks

Does the fact that the link was directed at Dewd stop you from reading it?

of course not, I'm not saying a casual reader can't identify bad art, in fact bad art that lacks of structure always shows off, I've never seen any attempt from any of the posters here to deliver a somewhat decent drawing, from the carrion girls to undead uneducated to miss melee to racoon girl, every comic here has mediocre art,and dewd is definitely the most hideous one but I won't bitch every thread expecting things to change because everyone should be conscious enough not to deliver shit drawings, my problem though is with everyones attitude.

He was talking to someone who specifically said they'd give custom advice to him, not someone who gave a link to Dewd

>I've never seen any attempt from any of the posters here to deliver a somewhat decent drawing
wew
>every comic here has mediocre art
WEW

i am loving this

>carrion girls
I'd love to hear you go into detail, user.
Always looking to improve!

>I'm not even comment your drawings
Thank you for proving what I said.
Since I obliged you, now you'll ignore my art and my point because it might make you feel like you are not "winning" an internet argument.

>convenitently named as "last minute sketches"
Fun Fact: I uploaded this exact same sketch a week ago when the thread was talking about frogs. Same filename and everything.

But please, attack my character based on filenames. I'm clearly conspiring against you.

>I'm just sick the way you nonchalantly insult other's artwork without proper advice
First of all, that's bullshit.
I never insulted Dewd. I said he doesn't put in the effort to understand his own character designs and explained elements of one of my own as an example. He does not understand his character's anatomy at all, and before you insist that "YEAH HE DOES", someone who understands anatomy would not accidentally draw a character's elbow in their forearm.

Second, I didn't say a damn thing until you started acting like a cunt and told that user some fresh bullshit. I complied and you refuse to even humor my opinion. so again, go fuck yourself.

>If he doesn't take the advide, just ignore him why even bother?

Because he actively pesters the thread by asking for advice. This is why people get annoyed.

But none of this matters. No matter what I say you will convince yourself that you and Dewd are victims. Nothing could ever possibly deter you, so this is completely pointless.

wow fucking garbage, you're even worse than Dewd lol

[1/3]

Looking for feedback and improvements as well as just general reactions to what I've got so far for this chapter - especially with the new hatchings-based shadow technique I'm trying out.

Spoiler'd images are for mild artistic nudity. Nothing's showing but they are still naked. Also, gonna fix the face in page 2 panel 2 so it's blank and push up the hairline - it'll look a little weird for the moment.

[2/3]

t. dewd

...

[3/3] This one's still WiP.

love the smell of bait in the morning

already i like your values. unsure what's happening with her face on panel 2 page 2 though

very productive critique. good work

Not him, but you used to have really weak values and contrast and your face/head structure is still pretty hit or miss. Wouldn't kill you to work through some Bridgeman or life drawing.

Everything you listed is leagues beyond dewd.

Dewd's art looks like he still draws holding the pen vertically in his palm.

Like you want me to draw a picture with less lines? or you want me to give you a picture so you can help me out?

Either way, I'm happy to oblige!

>This is the best critique I'm gonna get.
It's pretty much what I deserve, though.

Thanks for looking it over, user. Think I should tone down the hips? It's supposed to be exaggerated, but maybe it's too much.

I'm just slapping out a redraw for you to help illustrate some of my own personal critiques with your work, like line weight, line quality, sillhouette, etc

What's wrong with the proportions, exactly?

>face/head structure
Are you referring to the proportions of the face in relation to the head here, or just the head area in general?

PLS MAKE MORE GAY COMICS

The combination of tones and greyscale isn't working together. The large text boxes are ugly in a way I can't place. Maybe it's the font.

Trying to decipher the reading order here is unnatural. I know I should go to the left middle panel but I want to go to the right first. Changing the size of the font also changes the voice. Don't do that. Don't cramp the words.

Do you even know what Undead and Underdeveloped is? Methinks they named dropped themselves in that post.

Your coloring is really dull but I'm not sure if that's intentional because they're dead or something.

Try starting over after you actually learn to draw.

>I'm not sure if that's intentional
Eh, this latest scene is overcast so the colors are pretty dead, but it's not supposed to be a constant thing.
Is this page better?

Umm, I got a trap mini comic and a male/male/female comic with male on male action but we haven't gotten there yet.

And it's porn.

How's this?

General structure. It's like they don't have front/side/top/bottom planes even in the most general sense.

A lot of people don't use a bottom plane for who the hell knows what reason, but they cheat by only showing the face from three quarters with the viewer at the same level or above. Gunnerkrigg Court has done a lot of this if you want an example. Carrion Girls has all these interesting angles that the drawing (especially in the faces) frequently doesn't carry well yet.

A teacher with a boxier style, like Bridgman, would probably be more helpful than somebody who's all about tubes and balls and shit.

No. Push saturation. Did you use white in the grass?

> I know I should go to the left middle panel but I want to go to the right first.
I was wondering if it was just me. Hm. Having trouble figuring out why that is and how to fix it. Is that just because that panel's higher contrast due to all the black and white?

take the porn out and you've got a reader

No deal.

>Is that just because that panel's higher contrast due to all the black and white?

the text being so close in the first and third panels.

I should add that when I said hit or miss, I meant it as such. Sometimes there's structure, sometimes there's like nothing. I'm not sure of the cause.

Ah, that would make sense yeah. Well, at least it's easy to fix.

I don't deliver good art cause I draw it in my spare time, and I've never been given proper art classes. who cares, not like you guys pay to read it.
>Undead and Underdeveloped
I'm renaming my comic, I find this hilarious

>I draw it in my spare time, and I've never been given proper art classes.

Weak excuses kid. If you don't care if you suck don't make excuses for it. Embrace your failure head on.

Thiccer

This. If you want to make a comic, you need to improve your art. If you don't want to improve, then understand you can only go so far with it...

likely not that far.

Sorry.

That's actually a nice drawing, Dewd!

Here's my crit, bear in mind that these are all my personal visual preferences at play. I also didn't include it in the image but I think you ought to be a little more deliberate with your lines, they seem a little haphazard sometimes

>6
July is the 7th month.

OH... I'm sorry. I am a fool

Wow! Thank you very much! This will be very helpful for me!

Usually I try to make my edges as sharp as I can but That brush wouldn't let me for some reason, but again, thank you very much, I will try my hardest to aply this into my art.

>Push saturation
In the highlights, you mean?
If you mean in general, that seems like a really extreme level of saturation. Could you show me something that does this?

>Did you use white in the grass?
Well yeah, I was trying to replicate the specular reflection you get on vegetation. Now that you mention it, I guess I should have saved the white for hard-edged highlights and used a more yellowish color for blending purposes.

When you say "lower planes" do you mean the plane on the underside of the jaw or just ones that face more down than up?

I'm giving shit excuses so you guys don't waste time complaining about it. I'm starting art classes to help me improve, til then Ill make trash.

i think your "try your hardest" means "reply to a crit post saying you'll try your hardest"

repostan because end of thread

Try this! Instead of stopping your brush right at the end of the point, let your stroke go a little longer then use a hard-edged eraser to clean yourself up

Ya welcome, Dewd!

sarah when did you get so fuckin pale?

anyway no, i don't think this brush suits your comic. the nice clean lines you already had are the way to go, and you're having enough struggle keeping them from wobbling as it is.

>let's see your work, guy-who-i-already-know-who-you-are
that isn't even how that works.

Oh! I never thought of just erasing the lines, mainly because there's a pen setting in clip studio calle "sharpen edges" but It only works 50 percent of the time, so I'll just do that when it doesn't work.

Space between the chin/jawbone and neck.

I don't think that's what that tool does. What you want is to definitely use a brush that gets narrower as you let up pressure. That way MOST of the time, you can make points without trying.
then every so often you'll have to use this technique to get your points right, if they fail (and if they're really important, like on hair and claws and such)

someone who didn't bitch about the art and gave actual fucking input.

How do you make sure not to erase more than you should and ending with a corner that looks like somebody took a bite ouf of it?

My OCD is bad enough as it is.

in fairness some of that input is input he's been given before (by me) but some of it is also things he WAS trying to do, and simply couldn't using this new brush he's experimenting with.
I actually know how he feels, constantly realizing there are SO MANY different tools you could use in art, and wanting to use ALL of them... but you just can't if you don't want things to be a mess. you have to slowly learn tools one at a time, and keep things consistent-per-product

It's as if no ones perfect, and expecting all of us to be god tier artists in a single day is fucking stupid.

No one's expecting that at all.
People heap praise on "okay" art here all the time.

I dunno, I'm not sure I know anyone who can make perfect points without using the eraser technique.

shitto i don't know man. I think your best bet would be to try and keep an eye on the direction your curves would be going? It takes practice

Oh actually wait hold on, you are aboslutely right about getting a brush with thickness dependent on pen pressure. I'm an idiot. I don't know how to read

I had an /hyw/ crossover dream last night.

This is in the present day. The Sisters, the fat one and the skinny one whose names I don't remember, are traveling through somewhere desolate in North America. It felt to me like one of the Dakotas. Anyway, they kill a guy who they don't like, who nobody liked, for a definitely magic-related reason but it's never explained, and wind up at a boarding house where the Carrion Girls are living (it makes sense that it would be North Dakota here which has the highest population of people with direct Nordic ancestry in the USA). So they're staying there (the interior of which is my grandparent's old house) and at that point the viewpoint shifts from it's a movie to I'm the viewpoint character and somehow I'm sharing a room with them at night, them sharing one bed and me alone in a bed next to them, since I'm a light sleeper (which is true IRL) I'm awoken by them talking about their plans to leave (at some point during that convo a psychedelic experience that the fat one wasn't prepared for is mentioned (that I mention as being caused by synthetic psilocin, I was almost definitely referring to one of many synthetic psilocin analogues that are available on the designer drug market) and they use magic to make their escape, either by turning into ants or making themselves so small they ride ants to escape. I try squishing ants in the room but they get away, even though I never saw them get away. I run off to get Skalmöld, who is looking in the fridge for something, and after a profanity-laced conversation where we're both freaking out that they got away (despite not having a reason for not wanting them to escape - there was no indication that either of us knew they killed that guy) she agrees to use magic to help locate them, only we have to kill somebody who has at least 50 years of natural life left to be able to pull the spell off.

>continued in next post

I suggest an infant but Skalmöld has a heart and suggests a 30-year old prostitute, somewhere in the conversation there I praise modern science for allowing people to live so long that even that drug-addled whore has 50 years of life left in her (edgy as fuck, I swear I'm not usually like this). [scene missing] (not that I don't remember, it literally just "cut" in the dream to later) and we find out The Sisters are in Utah and we set out to get them, then it cuts to The Sisters trekking across desolate badlands/plains where they come across a village and they're talking about killing another guy, Lowlife Louie (whose name is directly stolen from a pro wrestler) and then the dream kind of goes off the rails, segueing into other topics, and then it segues to me in bed, recounting the dream of the crossover to my dad who's writing it down and at one point he shows his progress and his progress is "Four Chapter Long Novel" and then I woke up.

Probably one of my best dreams ever, definitely top 10, maybe even top 5.

Maybe you should stop posting your stats then.

For not caring you care enough to try to show off.

Ok froggy dude, here's the drawing I did applying your advice, how did I do?