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>how come almost every girl I see is into lesbian porn and many are interested in doing things with women in real life?
You are just so repulsive they would prefer another girl.

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Because sexuality isn't one or the other for most people, it's a spectrum.

There are somewhere between %2-10 outwardly gay people in the world, but it's a spectrum and probably some 20-40% have some (but not exclusive) sexual attraction to the same sex.

faggot

I have met a shitton of gay dudes, but in my whole life haven't met a single lesbian, except for some old 50yr+ hags.

no, its like this:

2% are bisexual
1% are homosexual

this is of both genders

i'm guessing less than .5% would be trans

The media tries to promote it around the clock, and has since the late 90's. When people hear so much about it, they think it's common, even though in reality, it's not. It's theater.

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I'm exclusively attracted to the opposite sex myself. But I'm not so insecure that I deny what the science says.

The media has been shilling LGBT shit for so many years as if it's the #1 issue in the world, so it's not surprising that the average American thinks the comprise 25% of the population

Trans is estimated to be about 0.2%. (or about 700,000 people).

Very, very rare. The only reason you see them more on the internet is because society rejects them almost entirely, while the internet lets communities grow for things that wouldn't be socially acceptable (...like Sup Forums).

When I was younger I was at a buddy's trailer, about to smoke a big joint, I use to sell weed. Anyways, there were his friends there, two lesbians. The one I was cool with and had no issues, she was pretty cool as a dyke but when I walked by the spare room and saw her laying there with her girlfriend making out through the slightly cracked door. I was truly disgusted. After that fact, when she came into the room we were blazing in, I didn't say much to her. It really bothered me. I hate homosexuals.

Why did it bother you?

Best sexual experience I ever had was a threesome with two "lesbians."

>psychology
>science
lol

>leaf
>story starts with dude weed lmao
>transitions into fags

Probably because it was a girl I knew and thought was a pretty decent person. Not that she was a lesbian, it was always know. I don't care honestly but keep that shit private. I don't give a shit what you do in your bedroom, you'll never hear about what I do. That is it, seeing it was what bothered me and that I knew them personally. Plus the penis goes in the vagina. You don't smash two taco's together or swing to bats at each other.

If you want to ignore what the longitudinal studies say about sexuality that's your right. Meanwhile the rest of us aren't going to close our eyes because the information conflicts with our personal worldview.

>Probably because it was a girl I knew and thought was a pretty decent person

Why does loving someone and kissing that person make her not a decent person?

>these people are gay even though they don't identify as it

How's that liberal logic treating you, faglord?

Maybe it's cause i live in Vegas but i see a ton of lesbians everywhere i look.

>I have met a shitton of gay dudes
that's what they call white men in germany?

Because I saw it, something I believe that should be kept private. If I didn't see it, I would not have cared. Again, I do not promote my sexuality to the public, why should you. Keep it private and out of sight and mind. Don't ask, don't tell.

All women are to some extend bisexual.

Nobody is saying they are gay. Where did I say that?

What I said was that sexuality is, for most people, a spectrum. There are people like me who are exclusively hetero, but there are also plenty of people who range from having a tiny bit of attraction to the same sex to being full blown homosexuals. That's what the current state of the science is. You're free to reject it, but it doesn't make it untrue insofar as there are mountains of evidence to support this position.

Sexuality isn't so simple as straight or not. History itself bears that out.

>but when I walked by the spare room and saw her laying there with her girlfriend making out through the slightly cracked door.

>I don't give a shit what you do in your bedroom

You totally peeped on them in their room though.

So it's an issue of modesty. That's fine, so long as you place the same standards on other expressions of affection in public. Does the act in this image, given that it was a public sexual act, make them bad people?

Also weren't those two girls behind a door that was mostly closed and you eavesdropped, no?

Women say that shit to attention whore. Ignore lesbian/bi bullshit, it's a way girls compensate for being absolutely shit awful in every other aspect of their lives.

You don't hear from real lesbians, because they're usually grungy, damaged dykes who dislike communicating with men period.

>how come almost every girl I see is into lesbian porn
because females aren't as godtard-conditioned and cuckolded to treat fucking like it's some sacred sacrament bestowed upon animals by a magical cock-skin collector

Homosexuality can be revolting to people just like eating fetuses would probably be revolting to most people even though it's just like any other protein. Embrace the arbitrary in life if you want to truely understand anything.

>is into lesbian porn
Female sexuality is confusing I know

Mostly closed is more or less an exaggeration. What, 1/3rd closed? Enough to see inside the room and onto a bed by walking past it. So it's not like it was open a notch and I had to physically look inside with my head.

As for that picture, that is a loaded question in my eyes because its a staged photo for publicity more than anything. Just like the modern pictures of the soldier asking his boyfriend to marry him in public, when there is a camera present. Or those two women, where one jumps up on the other cause the one girl returned from her tour of duty, again because a camera is present. Honestly, if I was walking down the street and saw a couple making out on the bench, homosexual or not, it wouldn't be something I would be found of and I would be bias towards it because again, modesty. Keep that out of public view.

Lesbians aren't real.

Lesbians has never been considered real until recently.

Throughout history, females having "special relationships" and close personal friendships with other women was very common.

>Taking a womans word
>Not attention whoring
It's like hard-wired into their brains that females want to be edgy and always superior to males in sentimental issues. more "open minded" or accepting, etc, not taking in the issue from all the different angles.

Most females are just stupid. A random hobo can be a better companion than a college girl. Sex objects, that's their only importance in life.

Nothing is ever arbitrary. Everything has a proximate cause, even if there's no ultimate cause because of the logic of infinite regress.

People revolt to things because either it's something in our lizard brains or it's a learned behavior (either culture, or some other medium.)

The data shows there are less than 2% fags out there and less than 10% of the population has ever had a non-straight sexual experience. You somehow morph that into
>There are somewhere between %2-10 outwardly gay people in the world, but it's a spectrum and probably some 20-40% have some (but not exclusive) sexual attraction to the same sex.

ie at best you're a proponent of the 'one drop' theory of sexuality

I see. Modesty has its virtues I suppose. I understand, though personally I'm not bothered by it -- though I suppose if I saw a pair of people (any sex) fucking in public I'd look down on it.

That said, why does this tenet of modesty extend towards hate of all homosexuals? Not all homosexuals are immodest. Many in fact are private and shy. Or is that not really the crux of the issue?

Yes sure but someday soon having a normal human brain is going to seem arbitrary in comparison to artificial intelligence. A human body with its highly arbitrary inputs, evolved to support our organic chemistry, will seem arbitrary. Eventually everything that isn't grey goo will seem arbitrary. We must learn to embrace the arbitrary nature of man if we are to remain human.

Just because you might have a passing light attraction to the same sex doesn't mean you will act on it. Notice how I said 20-40 have some degree of sexual attraction to the same sex, but not 20-40% have homosexual experiences whereas I said 2-10% are outwardly homosexual, meaning they have experienced some homosexual experiences after childhood/adolescence (where the number is higher -- sex play happens fairly commonly between same sex children, but it's not "sexual".)

In the good old days the stronk victorious men had harems of women who were selected over the ages for bisexuality since it mitigates the frustration inherent in one or two petite mortes per harem per night. 100% of females are therefore bisexual.

"Homosexuality" doesn't even exist, it's just a social construct. To be a homosexual is equivalent to bring a foot fetishist who is so into feet that they cannot get off to procreative sex. Homosexuals fetishize men to the point that they cannot get off to procreative sex. Anyone who cannot get off to procreative sex is fundamentally a degenerate.

Tell me more of this bisexual eugenics.

the article is from 2012

younger girls are more flexible. this will increase to almost 100% of females within a generation

I might turn gay for Trump. Maybe it's the same for girls and Hilliary.

This

People confuse arousal and actual attraction that one would act on. Many women (including some "bisexuals") are aroused by lesbian porn but wouldn't go down on another woman given the chance.

>how come almost every girl I see is into lesbian porn

Most girls are into kissing and cuddling with other girls, to impress men. Most don't actually want to date women though, but its socially acceptable for them to flex a little.

Need some women's perspective on this, but I doubt girls would be impressed to see their boyfriends fondling each others dicks.

What you've got there is a pile of stuff you believe, because it makes sense to you, but nothing to support it .

In any case you're playing a semantic game, and one still that is dealing with this idea that sex is not a spectrum (which so far as the state of knowledge says, is fact.)

Homosexuality is not a social construct. Homosexuality, as an act, is a fact of nature. It occurs in, as far as I am aware, every mammal including the more intelligent ones such as dolphins, apes, and monkeys. Homosexuality as an identity, rather than an act, is surely a social construct as much as heterosexuality, as an identity, is a social construct. But Heterosexuality, as an act, is not.

Frankly, degeneration is a social construct given that it's in reference to some social standard that is not in fact inherently the whole nature but merely a part of it.

>t. a not gay person.
I like men in the same way a straight woman likes men and in the same way you like women. Stop pretending you have homosexuality all figured out; if scientists don't understand it, then a simpleton like you certainly doesn't.

Half of everyone I meet under 30 is gay or lesbian here. I hate it.

Probably unlikely. If you're going to University or something like an arts program you're bound to see more homosexuals/bi though. They flee to those areas because they experience less discrimination and have more room to be themselves rather than hide it. That's actually something that's been true for thousands of years.

brainwashing
you can turn a child into anything

monkey see, monkey do
whats in the media all the time?

Whats the deal with proper dykes?

Why are they always so fat and ugly, they seem to go out of their way to look like men.

Because women are degenerates.

Imagine being a real, exclusive, lesbian in a world where it's the norm of the species (and it's likely to never change) for males to be sexually aggressive (i.e. the initators of sexual contact, dates, hitting on, etc.). It's like being a straight guy and constantly having gay guys mac on you 24/7.

They get all bitter as fuck and start hating men. Then there's probably some small number of them who were abused by men which ratchets up that hate 2000x. Then there's the even smaller % that aren't actually dykes, just really abused/mentally unstable women who reject men for that reason.

>wasting this much time and effort on less than 2% of the population just for pandering

I hate this country sometimes

Yes sexuality is a spectrum, this is known. Many men are capable of being attracted to other men, as seen in many cultures throughout the world. There are many potential natural reasons people could be attracted to the same sex, see Bonobos. However being attracted to the same sex exclusively is almost certainly degenerate ( which simply is a term for that which goes against procreation, especially in the long term ). There are a few scenarios in which it wouldn't be biologically but I think those are unproven in humans.

Makes sense, but don't lesbians find womenly shapes and femininity attractive? Why do some lesbians like butchy mannish dykes? Are they lesbians but still kinda prefer masculine features?

What's to understand? I'm simply categorizing, not making scientific statements. If I learned of any other fetishist that couldn't get off to procreative sex I would be just as disgusted and ashamed for them.

Also
>Not an argument

It wouldn't be such a big deal if the discrimination wasn't real. The only reason it's a big deal is because there's a lot of push back. Of course, since about 2005 the pendulum has swung so far towards pro-gay that we're dealing with waves of virtue signaling. It will end eventually.

We're better off not discriminating against gays, anyway.

sauce on this shit

Well not all lesbians are butch. You just notice the butch ones because they're the most flamboyant ones. They're the equivalent of effeminate gays (not all gays are effeminate.)

Anyway, as far as I know the butch lesbians end up acting like straight males and start hitting on chicks like guys hit on chicks. They defo like womanly curves.

The issue isn't what we refer to as the"gays", the issue is the other >20 percent of the male population that would probably fuck other dudes if it becomes mainstream in our culture. This change in behavior has the potential to bring about vast social changes and who knows which will be harmful. Just gas the"gay" outliers and outlaw homosexual acts.

>which simply is a term for that which goes against procreation, especially in the long term

That's where I disagree. I think that full on gays can serve a social and evolutionary purpose. Think about it. They're otherwise normal physical males that will never have children. That means they increase the odds of survival for the group without ever producing kids which are massive resource drains. It's the "gay uncle" hypothesis. Though I agree it's a little "just so."

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>but it's a spectrum and probably some 20-40%

This is what deviant homosexuals actually believe.

It's simple, judging by your post we can conclude that Americans tend to be faggots

Solid banter cunt

I don't have to believe it. It's what the science says. Keep in mind that I didn't say those people would ever act on that attraction.

And for the record I'm strictly heterosexual.

Please include me in the screenshot.

I try not to get caught up on the term "degenerate", it's vague at best but I try do my part and use it correctly by actually relating it to procreation.

The gay uncle theory could work (see ants, which funnily enough exhibit gay aunt behavior) but the generic payoff for that strategy is so low it's suspect from what I understand. It's unproven at this point. Oh well.

How can men even compete?

Think about it this way.

If homosexuality wasn't evolutionarily useful it wouldn't exist in all mammals (especially humans), especially our closer evolutionary relatives like the great apes.

You can imagine (this is pure speculation) that a population that contains genes homosexual genes [A] would have a higher survival rate than one without homosexual genes [B], and so the [A] group would survive and reproduce while [B] doesn't because of the edge that the homosexual genes give.

Given a purely utilitarian view, it's hard to argue for killing or excluding gays. It's in all mammals for a reason -- it's evolutionarily useful in some way, even if we don't know why (yet.)

Didn't expect to read such a deep comment in a gay thread.

Source?

That's not necessarily the case
For instance autism is probably not evolutionarily beneficial but it does manifest naturally.

I woke up in the middle of the night over here in burger land and can't get back to sleep. Sup Forums is so much more quiet during these hours it reminds me of 4-5 years ago when you could actually have a discussion.

Autism as a whole seems to be beneficial, given that autism is a spectrum and high functioning autistic are high contributors to science, knowledge, and engineering.

In any case, the point is it's present in (AFAIK) all mammals. If it was evolutionarily a net negative it probably would have disappeared by now.

Autism may be beneficial to the species is a few cases but selection doesn't work on the species level. Genes associated with autism may be beneficial in some other way true, but probably not when the result in full blown autism.

I tend to agree with this. I think you should also take in consideration that a lot of males did not get to mate in past ages, that could also be a hypothetical reason why gays were positive.

watching gay porn does not make you gay

they are talking about wanting to date and fall in love with the same sex which very few girls want to do

The vast majority of lesbians are in a phase and will grow out of it eventually. Bisexuals are more common but dating one is asking to be cucked. Lesbians that stay lesbians are a rarity AND most of them don't act like a flaming faggot so people forget they exist.

Porn isn't a good example of lesbian in real life because porn isn't a good example of anything.

Less than 2% are bi
Nuh huh, it's like 40%.

And fuck your spectrum.

There is 2 sexes, 2 genders.

You can either be attracted to the opposite sex, or the same, or both.

3 sexualities. 3 that cover all possible situations.

bi means people who act on and maybe identify that way.

20-40% refers to people who might have some light attraction but they might never ever actually act on it, or even want to if given the chance.

M8, that's the 3rd time you've reiterated your heterosexuality.

Op is a faggot

Over the line.

Well, we paid those girls to lick each other's tongues. Seems like competing to me.

>come almost every girl I see is into lesbian porn and many are interested in doing things with women in real life?
Lipstick lesbians, aka attention whores.

This. There's a reason why gay men are called gay (aka happy) and dykes aren't. It's because happy dykes don't exist. Most "real" dykes are not dykes by choice. They are dykes because they are too ugly and too repulsive to attract the kind of men they want. It's similar to a guy who goes gay in prison because he literally has no females to fuck. This is also the reason that "lesbian bed death" exists. These so called real dykes never even fuck each other whereas gay fags can't get enough dick. Most lesbians are faking it and are not lesbians by choice and this is why they are all ugly and angry.

Pic related is average dykes. And i guarantee they would disavow their made up lesbianism in an instant if you had the ability to transplant their brains into the body of a hot woman.

Whereas most fags are actually attractive and could get women if they wanted to.

tldr - most dykes are faking it, most fags are not.

because girls are bisexual by default

>Lipstick lesbians
>Implying butch lesbians aren't attention whore too

>science
What? Oh my god. Science has literally become a new religion or meme. Is statistics science? Also, that only applies for females probably because most are so narcissistic.

>studies
>psychology
AHAHAHA. Feeding you political propaganda from their bullshit appeal to authority is now "studies". Dude get real. Science and studies require objective evidence to deductively prove something. Speculation and statistics are not science.

1. Women crave attention
2. A lot of guys get sucked into the "bisexual women are better" meme
3. Women pretend to be bi to get attention

Shit, it ain't hard to work out. Stop hanging around with trashy women, and you'll find that you stop hearing faux lesbian tales.

>homos actually believe half of the earth's population are homos
die faggot

There are gay men that prefer twinks and femme boys. And besides its just hard to find feminine lipstick dykes. They are usually butch or tomboyish. So that's just what is available. Gay men also have problem finding masculine men because most are effeminate to a degree.

>how come almost every girl I see is into lesbian porn and many are interested in doing things with women in real life?
Girls are into every pron doesn't mean they want to turn it into their lifestyle.
bernard.pitzer.edu/~dmoore/2005_Chivers&Bailey_sex diff to bonobo films.pdf

Sexuality is only a spectrum for women. Guys either like dick or don't.