What is wrong with Degeneracy?

Shouldn't the purpose of a finite life be happiness and enjoyment? Why waste time with politics and judging other people?

Why can't we live our short lives for all the pleasure we can get? If the world ended tomorrow, would you be on this Sup Forums complaining about muslims or would you be trying to get as much pleasure as you can?

Life is FINITE. Let live.

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End yourself

>life is finite

t. satanist

Because degeneracy only works if only one person is a degenerate. If everyone is a degenerate, society crumbles and we return to living as cave men.

I want to move to Brazil. Is it hard to immigrate there as a Canadian?

Pretty much this.

Society requires a lot of work to uphold. If everyone is a lazy hedonist, nothing works.

if the world were ending tomorrow, i'd get right with God and make sure my family were too.

Man is a synthesis of the finite and the infinite. Without God, you miss out on the infinite and you're incomplete, and living in some form of despair.

The purpose of life is not merely happiness and enjoyment. You have a God-given purpose which is infinitely more important.

This ^once the whole society becomes degenerate it crumbles

It starts to resemble african and amazon tribes
No technology just people naked living in shit huts having orgys covered in paint

I like the pic op. Thx.

How about you look at your own country for the answer to your question

If our ancestors would have given in into degeneracy we wouldn't be here. like everything its easy to give in and take the easy road, but it will have no future. its what seperates humans from animals.

It is the biggest humiliation a human can possibly do to himself and others. the jews are making it acceptable through media and just laughing at us.

If you need degeneracy to achieve pleasure you are basically mentally ill.

>Shouldn't the purpose of a finite life be happiness and enjoyment?

Just be sure that you find happines and enjoyment in work, studying and exersice.

There is no such there is something being inherently "wrong". It's just that we don't like it.
As for WHY we don't like it, there are many reasons. Just for aesthetic reasons alone, degeneracy is unpalatable.

If we all thought like you we wouldn't be able to communicate to each other across the fucking planet you stupid nigger

I'll give you one better: If life is finite, then the duration of your pleasures mean nothing, as all memories of them die with you. Promoters of degeneracy can be hooked up to a heroin dispenser and blissfully drift off into death from an overdose for all I care, but their ideology needs be wiped out for the sake of all others.

>What's wrong with degeneracy?

It's in the name itself, really.

>degeneracy = degeneration: the state or process of being or becoming degenerate; decline or deterioration.

Degeneracy is a weakness of any society, and if it takes it over and implants itself into a society's fiber, the society is on a short-diseased route to eventually succumbing to the disease and crumbling, or being taken over and replaced by a stronger, non-degenerate culture.

There's also the obvious part of degeneracy, especially sexual degeneracy, being sinful, and thus if a society becomes degenerate, it has strayed from God.

shut the fuck up OP, the American government and jews need to be taken down

Your life is finite. Your race's life could be infinite. If not infinite, at least it could extend on for millions or billions of years.

After enough time, you join the millions and billions of faceless, nameless ancestors who serve as the foundation for future society. You can either be a strong foundation or a weak one.

Humanity is the only known species in this entire universe that is poised to extend beyond it's home planet, and potentially expand beyond it's own star system.

Yes, enjoy your life, but your ancestors sacrificed so much for your current way of life. Consider sacrificing for your children, grandchildren, and the many people who will inherit this burden from us.

I can't believe we, as a race, are on the verge of giving up the progress we've made, and handing the reins of civilization over to savages who will ruin everything. Yet here we are, giving in to hedonism, short-sightedness, and distraction because doing the right thing is too hard and too inconvenient.

We can push our race further than ever before. We have the knowledge to make our world into a garden of eden for human development. Instead we want to get lost in trivial pleasures that only enrich jews, empower niggers, and encourage the brown horde to take over for us.

At the very least, try to become a man your children can be proud of. That's the bare minimum goal we must reach if we're going to stop this planet from going out in a mocha colored flash before it goes completely dark.

I'd like living like god doesn't exist, that way I can enjoy my life to the max. If he does exist and is mercyful as you say, he will understand why I doubted religion and allow into heaven.

Degeneracy destroys families and nationalism.

Degeneracy also spreads disease.

Disease destroys society.

No families, no civilization, no culture.

Just a bunch of literally sick fucks trying to get off a few more times before they rot to death of their vile afflictions.

That is how the USA and Europe got to where they are now, as the sand peoples just march their way into the broken husks of the former great nations.

I hope you're 16 because that's an immature view of the world. As a society, we move forward with betterment and hard work. Leave the world a better place than we found it. Go read a book, youngun.

You have a moral duty to ensure the prosperity of your fellow human beings. This is why when you say "live and let live", you are not including things like murder and rape.
But I guess I shouldn't expect a brazilian to understand morality.

oh please, all it takes is a couple of nukes or several decades of cultural marxism to return to cave man status.
you faggots are so fucking fragile it's not even funny

How degeneracy affect your country? Is it few, mild, or severe?

This is impossible for some people, including me. It doesn't matter what the work or study is, it always makes me miserable doing it. I still do it, but to say "just enjoy it!" is fucking retarded.

I'm a degenerate but I still work and function as a member of society, since it's the only way I can support my degeneracy. Very few degenerates are useless NEETs like you guys are. We just play twice as hard as we work.

I agree, only people who complain about sexual liberation are those who don't get laid.

Same thing with people who complain about money, its usually because they don't have any.

t. Brazilian Intellectual

>If the world ended tomorrow, would you be on this Sup Forums complaining about muslims or would you be trying to get as much pleasure as you can?

This exactly what is wrong with you. Most of you autists spouting this "it hurts nobody" are libertarians, yet all your pro-social behaviors or thoughts are entirely dependent on your own benefit. Remove that benefit, and pro-sociality disappears.

a good man plants a tree whose shade he will never enjoy

dude like

haha

like you only live once right

haha

woahh

how many children do you have? are you raising them well?

Not surprising that you feel this way, Brazil. Your shit country is proof that people with no sense of preserving society and law and order should not be listened to.

degeneracy is just hard wired in humans, we all seek pleasure without effort, which inevitably ends up being a downward spiral

you can't just stop degeneracy by shouting DEGENERATES

we just need a society where people need to do meaningful shit to survive, to have responsibilities. what responsibilities have we got today? get a new iphone? we're all just bored to death.

Because the founding fathers of our country believed in liberty. They didn't want communism or Christofascism ruling our country.

You need to have the ability to do whatever you want so long as it doesn't injure anyone else.

we need a greater purpose

i think space travel/colonization is a good goal but of course the saurians dont want that

A degenerate person is easier to control. Now you can guess, why media does nothing but propagating it.

The trick is to put all of it in the right context. Sex parties? Sure, just make sure everyone is tested and clean. Bloodsport? sure, just make sure that the waivers are signed and the payouts honest. We are wrestling with out animal natures and these won't die. We must be able to live out our fantasies in finely controlled environments and make sure it doesn't bleed into regular productive society.

That's right. Traditionalists and religious people are all hypocrites. Every complaint they have with you is somehow due to some inadequacy. If this seems reasonable to you, then I'll take it that you are projecting and that whenever you are complaining about something, it's about some inadequacy of yours, not because some things are right and others wrong.

Most salient post I've seen on Sup Forums in a long time. Thanks, user

I don't know what the laws are like in your country, but I'm sure you know how fucked up the marriage laws are in USA. I'm not getting married or having kids here, it's a death sentence. I don't want to get cucked out of my money and children, I already saw my mom do that to my dad.

I don't really know what that has to do with my original post though.

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So you want to give people freedom, then overregulate those freedoms. Typical left wing bullshit.

You were probably all for mandatory condoms in porn.

People like this who say "you can have some freedom, but we must regulate the rest" are hypocrites as well.

Monkey doesn't know what is degeneracy or what's wrong with it, only MUH DICK OOO AH AH AH!

That's perfectly fine for you, we Huwhites have a different vision.

wew lad

I would say moderate at this point.

So many Dominicans sell their souls to make it to the USA, and then they get deported and come back with American libertinistic values.

The rage among white Dominican women in NYC is to marry American blacks, and they come back here with their half-american negro children that just don't understand a damn thing about our culture here.

We have always had blacks here, true Dominican blacks are some of the whitest behaving people you will ever see, of good intelligence too.

There is also a plague among the young women here to marry Haitian men, which never turns out well.

Young Dominican males that were born or raised in the USA have fully taken to American homosexual culture, most are a lost cause.

I am not sure if we are going to survive the subversion of American culture that we have suffered in the last 20 years.

Degeneracy and ill's are not "freedom" freedom serves the well being of the people not chaining them to filth, degenerates will always be degenerate filth.

it's good that a degenerate like you is a genetic dead-end

I know people who are the "just live love life haha partyyyy " types and they are productive members of society , even though their mentality comes off as not really giving a shit

Thw ones who come from rougher backgrounds tend to be fucked up though

I don't give a fuck about your founding fathers.

Just because one person's action does not harm other people, it doesn't mean that everyone (or a large proportion of people) doing it is harmless as well.

Also, this use of the concept of harm, not just definition-wise. You seem to be assuming that each person is somehow an isolated system. We are not. Every crap we do affects other people in a way or another. We are social animals in everything we do and think.

It hurts my feelings.

Where is my freedom to a degenerate free society?

Just as degeneracy is hardwired, so is moral behavior. There clearly is a conflict within our own minds.

Which god user? :^)

>Canada is too white. I can't stand this!

I tried degeneracy... it didn't make me feel any better in the long run. Life still doesn't make sense and I would trade all the whores and drugs for someone who will never.

Degeneracy doesn't make things better, it just feels good while you're doimg it and then it's back to feeling like shit.

I'm sure I've knocked up a few whores in my lifetime friend, my offspring are out there. I'm just not raising them.

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>Dude, you should totally delude yourself to the incoveinces in life and total drown yourself in shit to forget that there's a ever present threat of you getting pinned down under layers of metal in a car crash, because I'm so fragile and bitch-like!

Fucking idiot. Realizing reality for what it is, then actually putting VALUE in it is why we've got all these things we want to protect. You're doing the metaphorical comparative of life if it was a mcdonalds meal while I'm eating a fine resturant meal.

I'm not a neet. also thats where they get most degenerates into legitimizing their behaviour. OH YES GOYIM YOU CAN BE HUMAN DISGRACE IN PRIVATE BUT IT MAKES IT ALL EQUAL IF YOU ARE NORMAL IN SOCIETY.
U are a being who values short term satisfaction over building something meaningful, and that also will reflect in other aspects/relations of your life.

>Very few degenerates are useless NEETs
yes sure keep believing that. If anything its Neets who are degenerate.

End yourself

True just look at Rome

You cannot define harm for other people, as they may not believe the behavior is harmful. And it's their choice.

Let's say a woman goes into the sex trade. You might say that is harmful to her psyche, but if she is ok with the behavior, then I think it needs to be allowed.

>we should be like dogs and animals!
>just fuck and consume until everything falls apart
>shitskin logic
That's fine just keep it to yourselves you fucking monkeys. Stay out of our countries or we will start shooting to defend ourselves when you murdering hedonistic rapists spread.

(((Degeneracy)))

>What is wrong with Degeneracy?
It inproductive.
>imb4 people should not work all life like as slaves fro society doing only userfull and productive things
Well they don't. But there is thing called natural selection. Societies that organize their life in such way that their citizens do mostly productive things will outgrow and eventually replace Societies doing unproductive degenerative things.

>stay out of our countries
The United States was founded on the principles of liberty. Being able to make your own decisions regardless of what other people think is the essence of our nation.

Is having the ability to chain you to a dumpster freedom?

Honorless subhuman

Degeneracy doesn't lead to happiness and enjoyment though. True happiness is only found in obedience to Christ.

>U are a being who values short term satisfaction over building something meaningful
you're saying that like "meaningful" is an objective term. what makes you eligible to decide what is and is not meaningful?

The USA was founded on the principle of power to the people.

So you're setting up kids into this world who are guaranteed to have a shitty life.

I don't blame you for thinking that way seeing how the average Brazilian lifespan is 15 years old.

Because degeneracy usually brings pain either to you or other later in life, sure its fun to be a drunkard or a whore partying every day and night but eventually as you age and this really effects women more you will have more emotional problems and sicknesses that will begin to effect your body, this is the judgment for sin a slow painful death.

Non-argument. You have a duty to no one but yourself.

The founders of America believed this, otherwise they would've stayed loyal to Britain right? Nope, they said fuck the antiquated system of our British ancestors, let's build something new.

Saying you can't change the country you inherited for the better is stupid because if our people believed that we'd still be living in caves.

>im a degenerate but functional memeber of society

>i have no children

>oh but i do have children im just no raising them


You're not functional at all you fucking dumb retard. You are actively fucking up society. Fuck you.

I see degeneracy like people's vices, some want to drink 6 cups of coffee, some have a high sex drive , some want drugs

There are tons of things people can be addicted on from food to bath salts , to exercise to cocaine

And everyone has a different sense of humour and what makes them happy.

I feel Sup Forums starts getting mad when they see people who they don't like , like a tattooed chick , but a lot of people like this have jobs , even in higher white collar positions . I've met tattooed chicks who like to hike , and one who is surveying trails in a provincial park so people know where all the backcountry camping and fishing spots are

People need a hobby that makes them happy. Some people think about space exploration and advancing the human race, but others are just SUPPORT troops that work and keep society running , and play rap music and hockey on their spare time . What's so bad about that?

Nice jew tactic applying your version of (((liberty))) to whatever you need in order to push an agenda

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>IF GETTING BUTTFUCKED BY A HORSE ISNT LEGAL AND I CANT EAT UNBORN CHILDREN THEN THERE IS NO FREEDOM

Without responsibility, FUCK FREEDOM. Responsibility is a REQUIREMENT for freedom.

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I demand the freedom from degeneracy.

Competition is part of life and if you get addicted to degeneracy it will make you weak, just craving the next fix.

Also, if you get hooked, there's a chance you might end up doing pretty f*cked up things.

Its like a hug machine. Right up the pussy

Is having the ability to destroy, murder and rape freedom?

>Fuck you.
mmm thats it

The purpose of life is not infinite pleasure, as that in itself is impossible. You can never have enough plesasure, and that's the point of it. There is much more to life than sensual pleasures, there are spritual pleasures are far more difficult to achieve, but far more powerful when mastered. It's about finding the right balance between them, think of the difference in experience you get from reading a Playboy magazine to diving into one of the great literary masterpieces for example.

You can use psychoactive drugs to open you up to these worlds, but you compromise your body as a result. Meditation and studying spiritual texts can get you there without abusing your body.

I don't believe there is just one correct doctrine that is absolute truth, but there is a good reason for the wide number of religions around there world, and it's about finding the one that is right for you and brings you in harmony with your soul.

Not happiness. Satisfaction with life.

Prisoner's dilemma. Uncooperative behaviour is only advantageous if you can be sure that the other will display cooperative behaviour. Otherwise, it's disastrous.

I don't begrudge anybody their degeneracy. All I'm saying (personally, I don't know about the faux-Nazis on here) is that unless you're clinically retarded, this type of fun is _temporary_

YOUR interest in degeneracy has an expiration date. After that, there is still a looooong life left over for you to live, that you need to be prepared for. Mark my words, once you're there, life won't be feeling so short anymore. If you don't kill yourself, you'll be deeply regretting your choices.

Really, only teenagers don't see this. That's because they can't see it. Because the degenerate lifestyle is all they have ever known. They can't imagine themselves ever changing. They don't anticipate that _their own_ preferences and desires could evolve. So they firmly believe that they will not.

People like you would still be living in caves

>Shouldn't the purpose of a finite life be happiness and enjoyment?
GOD, FAMILY and COUNTRY

this (was) the rallying cry of our civilization. unfortunately I don't think anyone outside of America has felt nationalism since 1918/1945

Oh will you spoil us with a good old just pretending to be a retard? Nobody is buying it at this point.

small mistake in this post
it should be read "this use of the concept of harm is problematic, not just definition-wise."

Preferences are not unchangeable and you can have preferences for your own preferences. People may actually hold preferences about their own preferences and are not able to change them.
Also, this kind of thinking promotes social collapse because it assumes people can properly strive for their own goals. Mandatory savings for (public or private) pensions started because there was a large chunk of the elderly who had no means to live. These people did not save and screwed themselves. This happens because our own preferences across time are not consistent. We have evolved this way because of there is a non-linearity on the low end of all fitness functions - low values mean death no matter how negative they are. Individuals do not stay constant across time. Instead, you should think of them as a series of multiple selves with conflicting interests.

What is actually happening in that pic?

It's a balance like yin and yang. Too much preservation is bad but too much change is bad.

We are currently rapidly changing towards a degenerate collapse right now and we should go back to preserving the core values of society before it is irreversible.

Uh, people can be responsible with their freedoms. Most people here are. You don't see conservative gun owners firing on random civilians in the streets right?

And if they are not responsible, then they pay for it, whether it be death or injury to themselves. But self-injury is not as important, you can freely injure yourself without injuring others.

negroid "culture"

>isn't the purpose of life to be a hedonist

It's not fulfilling and a very shallow reason to live that wears off quickly.

But hey, if you want to beat off your entire life and jizz in various receptacles, go right ahead. Just don't cry to me when the high wears off and you realize you've wasted your life chasing a superficial and unreachable high.

Why is he with ppsh but his friends all with german guns

Some people are shallow , some people are very short sighted , and some reach their highs

Ive witnessed it

Degeneracy isn't just about decadent hedonism, it's also about destroying the traditions that maintained society, such as marriage. Cultural marxists and feminists who eroded the nuclear family by making marriage favor women so much are just as degenerate as drug users and casual sex participants. All of them are destroying society.

You must only live for yourself and get as much pleasure out of life as possible, exploit and abuse everyone on your path to get what you want. Sharing and caring/showing empathy for others is something people in privileged positions do.