Communism doesn't work

>communism doesn't work
>le based capitalism
>I'd much rather be exploited by the rich oligarchists and banks who own all of our money then be communist
>I'd rather have an african tier divide between rich and poor than equality between everyone

although i do agree, you in particular have to go back

Capitalists BTFO.

Make me capitalist DOG slave of the banks. The glorious Soviets crushed the facist shithole and made it GREAT

Agreed

Any "country" that doesn't last at least a lifetime doesn't deserve to be called a country.

>there's only capitalism and communism

>exploited by the rich oligarchists and banks who own all of our money then be communist

well, in that situation you will be exploited by communist politicians, which is even worse

a fucking dictatorship, there's no justification for a dictatorship.

the ussr lasted "at least a lifetime" though if we were to take the avg worldwide life expectancy at that time

>materialist ideologies
>not picking the third way

back to lefty/pol/ you idiot

>the third way
*tips fedora*

exactly this

and what's the other option that didn't lose a world war?

I genuinely can't think of another mode of production. Don't say socialism, fascism, social democracy, or anything else stupid, I can't handle the stress today.

Fascism is capitalist. It's just authoritarian undemocratic capitalism instead of the liberal capitalism we're used to.

Corporatism?

Do they produce goods as commodities for trade, or as needed for their use-value?

Just because you thought of a new word doesn't mean it isn't fascism.
xDDd

and what could be an alternative option to capitalism and communism that it's not authoritarian?

I didn't invent syndicalism though

Communism is a utopia that makes the lazy unskilled peasant equal to the hard working man. Then it collapses and leaves behind a generation of cucked socialist welfare slaves millenials.

That's not what syndicalism is, Jose.

I'm saying there is no third option. If you can think of one feel free to publish a book.

>childlike meme understandings of the world
I thought we were done with this?

How is corporatism different from national syndicalism, Jamar?

I'd rather live in an unequal society where I have at least a degree of prosperity than in an equal society where we all starve (except the commie politicians ofc).

National """""syndicalism""""" is just what retarded neo-falangist fedoras like (You) use so you don't have to say fascism.

Wow what a constructive post. Do you actually have anything to contribute or are you only going to use insults? Hope you're not the guy calling others out for "childish meme understandings" of topics.

>REEEEEEEE ITS DIFFERNT DIS TIME STOP CALLING ME FASCIST GOD DAMNIT REEEEEEEEEE THEY CANT FIND OUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEAS DONT CALL ME FASCIST PLEASE!!!!!

USSR had a pretty bad famine in the winter of 1932-33, in part due to kulaks burning their own farms.

And for eternity afterwards little boys who watch Ben Shapiro videos meme about starving commies.

Capitalism = Bread waits in lines on you

Communism = You wait in line for bread

>be slave to the oligarchs and banks and other rich people
>get money in return
>your value is determined by the amount of money you get
>you can allocate said money however you want
>freedom to buy what you want
>freedom to own your own car
>freedom to go wherever you want

>be slave to communist party
>not enough money to buy western products when the local food market has run out of food
>your value is determined by the position you have in the communist party
>wait seven years to be allowed to borrow car from centralized car administrationaya to share with the rest of your block
>the car is made from papier-maché and broken dreams
>the engine is a low quality replica of an antiquated engine from a capitalist country
>you try to take the car for a ride out of town
>Ivan stops you at the internal border crossing
>you do not have enough social points for travel privileges
>drown your sorrows in vodka

I love how these meme comparisons always assume the person in the capitalist country has enough money.

when are you faggots going to go back to Red.dit or /his/? Nobody gives a fuck.

>calls others childish for saying communism is a utopia
>then proceeds to ignore your question and insult you with a Sup Forums-tier meme
Americans, ladies and gentlemen.

Capitalism = You wait in line for bread

When did I call others "childish", you illiterate nigger?

janitors do your job and delete these shit threads you faggot pieces of shit

Technically, USSR was using a model called state capitalism with socialist traits. Not even socialism in strict Marxist definition.

Capitalism=you get to look at all the pretty groceries you want but you can only afford to eat the dried beans and rice

Let's face it, any socioeconomical system requires checks and boundaries to function well for all people. Only complete brainlets would defend unconditional communism or capitalism, and in fact even defending American corporatism indicates a slight mental deficiency.

I asked you how corporatism was different from national syndicalism and you began calling me a fedora and now a nigger.

Don't even try to talk to them about NEP or developing material preconditions or Dengism/Xi Jinping Thought. They'll just >NAWT REEL GOMMONISM

Yeah, letting weak people freeload off of my work because ''muh need muh ability''
fuck off and die in the gutter you lowlife fucking roach

Because you are. You're desperately trying to skirt around the word "fascism" because you know that if someone correctly calls you out for what you are, you're retarded opinions will be immediately discarded.

This is the honest thought anticoms are thinking when they cook up some bullshit about why capitalism is de wae

Literal sociopaths.

What are you talking about? Communism have never been reached. Just open Das Kapital, plz.

So are you just trying to have a circlejerk about communism? What is even the point of beginning this thread by asking about alternatives?

Don't try to argue with Americans, many of them think maintaining public utilities with taxes is communism.

Dumb faggot, I didn't make this thread.

being a communist doesn't absolve you of ever being retarded

I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying if you even try to get into that nuance you'll get memed.

I unironically uphold Xi Jinping Thought, he has a plausible vision for ending Deng Xiaoping's (brutal, interminable) New Economic Plan.

No, reread. I was unclear.

Oh okay then

>he posts the same thread on int about communism everyday

>I unironically uphold Xi Jinping Thought, he has a plausible vision for ending Deng Xiaoping's (brutal, interminable) New Economic Plan.

Well, let's see what he's up to. But chink state is corrupted almost as much as our, and there are no attempts of fixing it or giving the people education and understanding of even basic civil rights. So I'm very sveprical about China.

*sceptical

>i pretend im a communist for dat sweeeeeeet karma and epic upvotes/gilds!

Not completely true, the human rights situation has improved lightyears over the last 10 years. I'm skeptical, but I think he has a real shot to do it.

nah, you were right the first time.

Go on...

Oh look another thread about communism where no one actually discusses anything, just posts brainlets.

Can you idiots fuck off to Sup Forums or /leftypol/ please?

>China and Russia are still communist

Communism is cancer. kys

He looks like typical spoiled child, and his party wing called "the princes". So there are very many chances that he's just another kim-like dictator.

The thread is pretty full of discussion to be honest. You might just be feeling angry.

China is communist, the politburo commanding a state-sapitalist economy to amass capital and develop the means is literally orthodox marxism.

Russia is liberal, yes.

That's honestly not a very high-level analysis user. You probably can't understand these things just by looking at pictures.

hmmmm intradesting

There is no discussion in this thread and it doesn't belong on this board. It LITERALLY says politics does not belong here, there's a reason mods delete it everytime it's posted.

So many commies on Sup Forums lately
Hello comrades. Now please kys

You sound like you're insane. How does your second point relate to whether or not there is discussion going on in here?

Never

Yep, that's my personal opinion. But nobody can deny that China is corrupted as fuck, and so called "communist" party do nothing to prevent it.

>the sky is yellow and cows go moo. Cows obviously go moo, idiot, everyone knows that. woooow how do you not know these things

hmmmmm...

We were not starving because commies wanted us to work hard. So they gave us enough food to not starve. They were smart.
>twf family would travel 400km to moscow every weekend and stand in long lines to buy some food

What?

They actually are on a hardcore anti-corruption campaign right now for a few years already. Not just some "anti-corruption" purges like Saudi, but actual prosecution of corrupt officials for their crimes. The people demanded it and the gov actually listened. It's the main thing Xi's popularity comes from.

It's just a purge of now lost pro-Jintao wing, lol.

It also assumes that the person in the communist country isn't being flogged to death in a gulag.

Everytime in these threads the communists just call the capitalists and fascists brainlets and viceversa occurs.

Yeah yeah we had those exemplary "anti corruption" campaigns too. That doesn't mean shit.

no man with a real drive to succeed in life wants communism. the sheep masses want it though, even if we indoctrinate them to think they hate it.

That's a poltard and I don't know what the fuck he is doing here since they have a regular gommie thread on Sup Forums

Norwegian gentleman of jewish origin prefers oven?

the sheep masses also want socialism in europe. that's there are welfare states. no wonder they hate americans because it is like the exact opposite (which is admittedly not ideal either)

Slander

Hey, you said they were doing nothing about corruption. In fact they are.

Because that's a reasonable assumption. Gulag rate was way less than the US prison system.

>the sheep masses want it though, even if we indoctrinate them to think they hate it.

Do you fucking hear yourself?

Why do people keep rediscovering communism at different times and locations?

Wtf I love communism now.

Communism was just a Jewish beta uprising against the Normies, in return the Aryan betas staged their own counter-uprising in Fascism.

Communism is for Jews only though, if you're not a Jew and you support Communism you are a huge tool.

yeah fuck you btw

Explain picrelated
You get fucked either way but you are richer in capitalism.

But the Jews control key institutions in capitalist societies. Who were they rising against?

Not even a capitalist but underrated post

The US is a pretty massive outlier in that regard, though. No other country has your incarceration rate.
And unless you do something idiotic like having children, you will have enough money to live a decent life in western Europe. The governments pretty much guarantee it.
There's also free education and opportunities for social mobility. Being born into poverty does not doom you to a life of poverty in most developed countries.

The world isn't black and white. Communism isn't the solution to any problems. Capitalism works alright, but not having a social safety net and providing basic services for your country's population is heartless.

>le venezuela disproves socialism meme
Plenty of counter-examples if you're gonna start like that. How about Chile under Salvador Allende vs Chile under Pinochet?

jews only control the west since the mid 1900s. before that they were outcasts. communism was established by eastern jews who were disenfranchised and discriminated against in eastern europe to topple the monarchist regimes ant the middeclass in europe, especially in russia.

Agreed that he should stop this, but you can hardly blame him since there's no decent politics board on this site either

>if you're not a Jew and you support Communism you are a huge tool

Monarchy

>an alternative to two economic systems is a political system
huh?

US needs some "communism" to be honest.
picrelated is disgusting.

Ew

What exactly is wrong with that? Do neets really get triggered by a poster that encourages working hard?