Why do people younger than 50 vote Republican? are you an idiot, do you not care about your interests at all?

Why do people younger than 50 vote Republican? are you an idiot, do you not care about your interests at all?

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I have a job so currently Republican interests mirror my own.

Sage
you are the one who talks abour Reagan

Not really.

Reagan cut taxes 30% for all income groups. And created more revenue with it.

Trump isn't like most GOP really

and lower taxes for me is a good thing

and also a better economy

Great argument. I'm completely convinced.

My greatest hope is that they eradicate social security.

No he didnt

>People can care more about the values and cultural identity of their country than immediately getting money? What the fuck? That confuses my materialistic marxist brain!

Will never ever happen.

Because I'm taxed at 30%. The prospect of cutting my tax liability in half is very alluring to me.

guns
the constitution
inflation
immigration
regulation

Actually I'm not gonna lie, I care entirely about immediately getting money and that's why I vote Republican. Less taxes and less money spent on economic leeches means more money in my pocket.

I know ;_;

No actually revenue dropped and never recovered to pre-Reagan levels until the Clintonian tax rise.

Bush cut taxes again, practicing voodoo economics and once again revenue dropped.

Tax cuts without spending cuts is about as idiotic as it gets.

What are my interests then, Australia? Why don't you go ahead and tell me what I should be interested in?

>as a % of GDP

> Doesn't understand economics
> Doesn't understand equality of opportunity
> Doesn't understand basic principles of business
> Doesn't understand the history of the Democratic party
> Doesn't understand the TPP or NAFTA
> Doesn't understand why we had a recession in 08
> Doesn't understand why the economy isn't growing as much as St. Obama convinced him it was
> Doesn't understand anything

Tell me more of your enlightened wisdom.

.. yes of course? how else would you measure it, dumbass?

The Democrat party in 2016 wants people to be poor forever.

This

>Wealth gap was at it lowest during the Ray Gun era
>30 years of "tax the rich free shit lmao" has widened it considerably
>Does wealth "trickle down"? probably, does cost? absolutely

Man these stupid uneducated white males, why do they object to having the burden of funding a bloated out of control state trickle down onto them?

I'm going by this chart

Source: usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_history

The argument is tax cuts increase total GDP
Not revenue as a % of GDP

Republicans = jobs
Democrats = welfare
A job helps a poor person out in the long run far more than welfare. Welfare is like a drug, it achieves nothing in the long run other than making you more dependent on the state. It's how the left gets people addicted to voting for them.

During Reagan's presidency, the national debt grew from $997 billion to $2.85 trillion

This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.

Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.

Reaganomics is voodoo economics.

Because i base a President on the last 4 years and the first 2 or 4 years of the next or laws signed in and the effects they caused. Obama has more or less destroyed my job opportunities caused the company to downsize and cut hours and then to top it off taxes have gone up so ya i rather vote republican.

You can even see the Reagan dip there kek

>this thread again

you should vote for what you believe is fair not what benefits you personally

saged

Shillary actually said she will raise taxes for the middle class. Trump wont.

Debt in the 70s was only kept in check by hyper inflation

see

Nope. It just means less revenue which you then borrow to fill the gap because cutting spending is not politically viable.

i vote democrat because Obama's printing money for banks will make cost of living go down for the middle class any minute now. I'm very patient man!

That was due to military spending though. As we have already shown his economic policies worked. And he campaigned on the premise that if he had to choose between a balanced budget and national security he'd choose the later

shut up shill, the liberals are the ones killing jobs for young people and breaking us with taxes to pay for millions of useless immigrants from 3rd world shitholes

They don't.

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/poll-trump-9-percent-young-voters.html

>voters ages 18-29: 9%

Trump's paid shills on Sup Forums try to paint a picture that simply does not exist.

Yeah.

>doesn't know what "recession means"

and what do the democrats offer me, a FWM?

>As we have already shown his economic policies worked

Proof?

What I believe is fair is that the wealth I create goes entirely to me and is not used to support people who do nothing productive. This doesn't mean I'm an anarchist or anything, I'm perfectly ok with taxes being used for things that directly benefit me such as military defense, emergency services, roads, etc. I just hate poor people.

>voting for gibs
I'm interested in this nation surviving the next 100 years as an independent state.

I'm going to assume it doesn't mean 'cut taxes'

Taxes actually have gone up for some brackets - who aren't rich, of course. The rich, however, have experienced nearly a flat tax. Fancy that. Boy libertarians sure do love libertarianism for everyone but the rich: they get a pure injection of socialism. Neat how that works!

shill, millenials don't have landline phones, nor do they answer phone calls from numbers they don't recognize

Welfare immigrants and no guns

who is that guy?

Because some people tune in to reality sooner than others.

Not really true. Trump has but a handful of actual businesses. The rest are shelf companies or tiny holding companies. He has/had maybe a few dozen actual companies.

I wonder if you'd be OK with the US going bankrupt once or twice?

>australia

no-one recognizes the flags anymore. this board has gone to shit.

>muh anecdotes

Larger tax revenue and substantially lower tax rate. Unemployment sank, growth rate grew

>Polls are wrong! Polls are wrong!
Yeah no. When the boomers are dead, the republishit party dies with them.

I vote republican because I understand the long term interests of the nation. Only selfish evil people vote for a candidate like Bernie Sanders who promises free shit taken from wealthy people. Tax cuts allow small people like us to start modest businesses, democrats don't discriminate against small or big businesses. And in fact income inequality goes WAY up under their leadership. Look at Obama and bill clintons presidency's.

>trillions of dollars in debt
>AA credit rating
You haven't paid much attention.

We're not as selfish as you.

The only reason we aren't bankrupt right now is because the dollar is the world reserve currency. We are basically cucking the rest of the world in this way and using you to subsidize our debt, you should probably be mad about it.

IDGAF if billionaries are paying taxes, they're rich enough to evade most of the bite. Meanwhile democrats want to raise MY taxes and I can't afford to hire all those lawyers and accountants.

So it really comes down to you, the lefty, wanting me, the middle class joe, to pay for Niggers, Spics, and Muslims who have no job and exist to breed and support lefties. That's just not happening.

If the left wants working class voters back, they're going to have to seal up the borders and kick out all these shitskin welfare voters they were hoping to replace us with.

I have no interest.
Jokes on you.

why do we always have to debate socialism vs economics over and over. socialism is unfair to actual workers and government doesn't create wealth, outside of maintaining law and order.

More like
>Why do american people vote
There is no american government that has or ever will served the people's interests!

Supreme Court vacancies.

What is that chart supposed to show? Neither I nor Reagan are libertarian so Idk what you are aiming at

So bankrupt means what exactly? anyone in debt? or anyone without AAA rating? kek, you are a spastic m8.

You're not using me, you're mostly using developing nations who have to issue bonds in US dollars. We issue in AUD as we have a stable sovereign currency.

Other countries are not so fortunate and their companies and country must issue bonds in USD which makes them vulnerable to US cucking and sanctions cucking their currency (see Russia)

Yes he was. You're a moron. Libertarianism is nothing but a marketing campaign for corporate and wealthy welfare at the expense of everyone else. Anything else is delusion or lies.

Is this what Liberals think Republicans believe?

A good explanation I've heard is Republicans want to get rich and make an effort, unlike Liberals who want the government to give them money or jobs.

lol, self-serving nonsense.

I work for a private organization, I have kids who will be going to public school and I have family in the military and law enforcement.
Fuck democrats. Fucking soulless shills

Funded wholly and solely by the Koch brothers since the early days.

Because I pay taxes and I'd prefer if those taxes were lower. I really, really don't want to pay for niggers and spics.

Okay.

Yep.

See: The true believer libertarians are just moron potheads who unironically believe the wealth will trickle down. The rest are literally paid shills of the Kochs to destroy the prosperity of the West so they can have even more billions. Because to a rich man, there is never enough wealth. If you have to pack your planet full of explosives and obliterate it to squeeze out another nickel a rich bastard will ask how many explosives he can order at a time.

Only reason we're not bankrupt is because the debt ceiling keeps getting increased.

Do people not remember everyone whining about Republicans trying to shut down the government? Or non-essential employees being sent home for a few weeks?

lower taxes is welfare?

you're confusing free market for trickle down

free market is supply and demand setting prices if you are unfamiliar

The debt "ceiling" is whatever we say it is.

Interesting. But Reagan still cut taxes 23% for all income levels iirc. Idk but poor people need these 23%

>not old people and the military-industrial complex

Young people turn 50 when they are 50. Voting republican is a long term investment.

We do have to vote on it.

you are next level retarded

You are literally saying

>the only reason we are not bankrupt is because we can afford to pay

kek, literally the opposite of bankrupt. Just so you know, a bankrupt is someone who cannot service their debt. The US currently services its debt perfectly fine.

Joke's on you, I'm part of the military-industrial complex.

Raising tax revenue isn't an accomplishment, dingofucker. It's theft.

What I mean is, we won't really go bankrupt until people stop lending to us. And right now people are basically paying us for the privilege of lending us money because everyone wants the dollar. That's great for now but it may not last forever.

If we could pay for it, we would have debt.

It's not fine when we have to keep bumping the limit and don't even try to pay it off.

lol, you actually think fed debt works like household debt and should be "paid off" as a matter of priority

kek

No I'm not. Like I said, you're using the moron true believer memes. What happens in a "true" free market? Well, every fucking time what happens is consolidation. Those who have more, begin with more. They then buy up as many other companies as they can and merge. Eventually they have a monopoly and then buy government. If they can't buy government because "it's too small" they just become government. Actually, they just become government eventually either way. The rich will always become more powerful than any government if allowed to get out of control. Kind of like they're doing now.

Yes, and then suppressed wages while the cost of goods and services continued to rise. I remember when minimum wage was $5.15 an hour for a decade. You simply could not live on that.

>But hurr durr minimum wage is not meant to be lived on!
YES IT FUCKING IS. That is LITERALLY what it is for. And libertarishills need to stop repeating this fucking lie. The choices are not between accepting lower wages and allowing third world immigration. The choices are between allowing the rich to continue to fuck up the West and dragging them out of their towers and burning them at the stake.

>No I'm not. Like I said, you're using the moron true believer memes. What happens in a "true" free market? Well, every fucking time what happens is consolidation. Those who have more, begin with more. They then buy up as many other companies as they can and merge. Eventually they have a monopoly and then buy government. If they can't buy government because "it's too small" they just become government. Actually, they just become government eventually either way. The rich will always become more powerful than any government if allowed to get out of control. Kind of like they're doing now.
so you agree the government is too powerful but you want to pay higher taxes

It's not an unfair comparison. Someday in the distant future, if things keep going the direction they're going, all the other nations will realize that we can't actually pay them back.

And then we become a giant Brazil.

Thanks for Correcting The Record on Reagan, dingofucker.

Well, we shouldn't have to shut down the government when we don't increase the ceiling

youtube.com/watch?v=VDxJpPHQxNM

FPBP

I know you're not going to believe me but you really ought to educate yourself on the topic. It would not only make you not sound like such a dumbass but also would make you less frightened about something that wont happen kek.

Pretty much this. We have a republican controlled house and senate and they have gone along with all the globalist policies that have wrecked jobs for american. There is very little meaningful difference between establishment GOP and Democrats.

I use to be liberal like you when I was 12.
You guys still use the same talking points too.
What you overlook is personal responsibility.
Also you guys get too emotional and resort to personal attacks like you've done this entire time.
The right is calmer and more civilized than the left.
Now continue screaming like a harpy.

>Hey guys! Why don't republikeks like us?

>Hmm, I know! Let's keep calling them idiots! Yeah that'll get them to agree with us!

You fags are full of shit and the reason I'm voting for Trump.

Because demoshits are even more statist and anti white and will take my guns.

>so you agree the government is too powerful
Point to that in my statement. Burn the Kochs and their shills!

What does the minimum wage have to do with the government stealing my money and giving it to niggers and whisky tangos? I honestly don't give a rat's ass about the minimum wage. I don't expect it will even raise mcdonalds prices considerably. All that will happen is greater automation and the loss of minimum wage jobs.

>hurr durr you're just uneducated and a dumbass
A very compelling argument. I'm completely convinced.

are you in favour of lower taxes or not?

To think in a country of 300 million people that immediate tax hikes or cuts have an immediate impact on the economics.