On gun control: “If you are too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America.” - that is a reasonable proposition, no?
On Syria and Iraq: "To support troops from Iraq and around the region, the U.S. should immediately deploy the special operations force President Obama has already authorized and be prepared to deploy more as more Syrians get into the fight,” Clinton said. - nobody wants 50,000 troops on the ground, special forces are fine, right?
"The wealthiest pay too little in taxes while the middle class needs more relief. I'm going to fix that. I’ll close corporate tax loopholes and make sure millionaires and billionaires can’t pay lower rates than middle-class families." - isn't that reasonable? Isn't that good?
"On my first day as President, I'll set two big goals. I want the U.S. to have half a billion solar panels by 2020. And I want us to generate enough renewable electricity to power every home in America in the next 10 years." - wouldn't that be awesome?
she has a record of lying for the past 30+ years. she has countless scandals behind her. she's about as trustworthy as a chinaman selling you something in chinatown. fuck off kraut, don't merkel me
Blake Brooks
>On gun control: “If you are too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America.” - that is a reasonable proposition, no? What if I'm wrongly on the no-fly list? Why am I not allowed to appeal?
Juan Garcia
I'll bite...
1. Who decides who is too dangerous to get on a plane?
2. The best way to stop the Syrian Civil War would be to stop funding rebel groups. But you'll never hear Clinton or Obama suggest that, thougb I bet Americans overwhelmingly support that option.
3. MUH TAXES. Every politician seems to think the middle class gets fucked while the rich don't pay enough. Yet nothing ever seems to get done. Truly, it does give one reason to contemplate
4. Sure, it'd be sweet to not buy oil from dunecoons but is the technology there? Is our infrastructure? Its one thing to set a goal, its another to actually know how to reach it
Cameron Perez
So? She still has the better policies. Shouldn't you vote for the person who has the better policies?
Or are you saying that instead of renewables she will be all about coal and oil after the election? Trump is all about coal and oil right now, will he be all about renewables when in office?
John Ross
>What if I'm wrongly on the no-fly list? Why am I not allowed to appeal? You are allowed to appeal being on the no-fly list. What are you talking about?
Jayden Parker
>not listening to what i just said
just like hitler wouldn't listen... really makes you think
Leo Campbell
>Shouldn't you vote for the person who has the better policies?
Apparetnly Trump has better immigration policies and these semm to be far more more important for his supporters.
Jonathan Clark
Green Energy? Like Obama gave one of his political donors a nice corporate crony contract to make solar panels, and then the factory went kaput within a year while Mr. Green Energy CEO Man went off on his merry way with his sacks full of shekels?
Green energy = I'll steal taxpayer money to give it to some thieving jew running a "green energy" scam business.
Modern, safe, nuclear power plants is what we should have been investing in for the last 10-20 years. I forget it if was the French or Germans who were suspending use of their nuclear power plants and forcing themselves to start buying from neighboring countries to meet their energy demands.
Jacob Nguyen
Yeah, and wait years and years to finally be taken off the list. The list has tons of innocent people on it that mean no harm just because they share a name with someone who might mean harm. It's not a terrible policy but it won't work very well at all, just like the no fly list currently.
Evan Williams
>On gun control: “If you are too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America.” - that is a reasonable proposition, no? the no fly list is horribly managed and applying it to buying guns eliminates due process >On Syria and Iraq: "To support troops from Iraq and around the region, the U.S. should immediately deploy the special operations force President Obama has already authorized and be prepared to deploy more as more Syrians get into the fight,” Clinton said. - nobody wants 50,000 troops on the ground, special forces are fine, right? or we could just stop stirring shit up in the Middle East, period >"The wealthiest pay too little in taxes while the middle class needs more relief. I'm going to fix that. I’ll close corporate tax loopholes and make sure millionaires and billionaires can’t pay lower rates than middle-class families." - isn't that reasonable? Isn't that good? why not tax the middle class less instead of the rich more? >"On my first day as President, I'll set two big goals. I want the U.S. to have half a billion solar panels by 2020. And I want us to generate enough renewable electricity to power every home in America in the next 10 years." - wouldn't that be awesome? renewable energy is either shit or not as environmentally friendly as people want
Ayden Howard
>1. Who decides who is too dangerous to get on a plane? The government. And if you have a no-gun list of terrorist suspects or criminals or illegals etc., then of course you would have a process to appeal being on the list.
>2. The best way to stop the Syrian Civil War would be to stop funding rebel groups. But you'll never hear Clinton or Obama suggest that, thougb I bet Americans overwhelmingly support that option. Funding the Kurds and the Arab alliance working with the Kurds which fight ISIS is a good thing. Funding other groups in the South which fight ISIS, also makes sense. For the last 15 months, supplies have not been handed to anyone who even remotely comes close to collaborte with Al Nusra or ISIS. Actually, allies of Assad have been supported (Kurds and the Arab alliance in the North).
>3. MUH TAXES. Every politician seems to think the middle class gets fucked while the rich don't pay enough. Yet nothing ever seems to get done. Truly, it does give one reason to contemplate Trump wants to considerably lower taxes for the rich and the middle class. Clinton wants to increase taxes for the rich and lower them for the middle class. When having a budget deficit, you can figure out which policy can work even if you are just 5 years old.
>4. Sure, it'd be sweet to not buy oil from dunecoons but is the technology there? Is our infrastructure? Its one thing to set a goal, its another to actually know how to reach it The technology is there, absolutely. Look at the cost curve for solar and wind and biomass and biofuel and geothermal etc. Germany set goals and fucking reached them. It is just a question of wanting to reach goals with renewables.
Jonathan Jackson
>Apparetnly Trump has better immigration policies How so? Trump says "built the wall" and get everyone "out out out" - Clinton says "we need to protect our Southern border" and "let's introduce e-verify" and "let's legitimize the hard working people who have been here for many years and are not criminals".
Which policy is better?
Julian Nelson
No.
No.
No.
No.
Ian Edwards
Trump's ofc. Amnesty is a terrible idea.
Wyatt Cooper
According to the current air travel regulation,you are too dangerous to get on a plane if you have more than a 100 ml of shampoo. Completely reasonable.
Sending American troops into Syria would only mean more conflict there. I challenge you to bring up one example of an American military intervention in the Middle East ending well.
Sure,she'll close all the loopholes for the people who funded her campaign,I believe that.
And I'm not even gonna go into the whole solar panel bullshit,you can do 5 minutes of research into solar energy to find out exactly why that shit is unfeasible in massive quantities.
Xavier Sanders
She's also said she didn't lie to anyone. Being related to sir Edmund Hillary Taking sniper fire Emails Benghazi
All filled with her lies. It's like taking back the woman who fucked your friends behind your back. She has a long history of lies. Statically speaking, what you outlined has a bigger chance of being lies than truth, based on her past statements.
Jack Bennett
>Green Energy? Like Obama gave one of his political donors a nice corporate crony contract to make solar panels, and then the factory went kaput within a year while Mr. Green Energy CEO Man went off on his merry way with his sacks full of shekels?
"Oh, look here, I got one unsourced anecdotal story, so renewables must be baaaaad!" Jesus.
>Green energy = I'll steal taxpayer money to give it to some thieving jew running a "green energy" scam business. "Oh no, government investment is so bad, we can't invest in energy... unless it is coal, pipelines for oil and nuclear, then we can spend billions and billions!" Jesus!
>Modern, safe, nuclear power plants is what we should have been investing in for the last 10-20 years. "But but but, safe Uranium or even the magical Thorium nuclear plants are soooo great" Jesus - dude, do you even hear yourself? Read up on cost curves for nuclear power plants - Hinkley Point C in the UK is a financial disaster costing massively and is 300% over budget... with renewables, costs for the same capacity would have been 1/2.
>I forget it if was the French or Germans who were suspending use of their nuclear power plants and forcing themselves to start buying from neighboring countries to meet their energy demands. Germany is suspending nuclear and we have actually already replaced it with renewables and are not importing electricity at all.
Christian Parker
>he list has tons of innocent people on it that mean no harm just because they share a name with someone who might mean harm.
better be safe than sorry. Then America just needs a faster and more streamlined system to get off the list if you are innocent and not connected to terrorists.s But if you are connected to terrorists, why the hell should you get a gun or be allowed on a plane?
Caleb Brown
You know shills get paid by the number of responses?
Here's your .40 cents.
Henry Nguyen
>Amnesty is a terrible idea. Why? It would boost American GDP by a shitton and solve a problem that is a decades old problem. If you introduce e-verify alongside the amnesty and protect the Southern border, then it is a perfect policy.
Seriously thinking that you can deport 12 million illegals and NOT hurt the economy massively, is the worst idea ever.
Nathaniel Russell
you ignore the very foundation of your arguments, which is if hillary is trustworthy or not
she isn't. this makes your opinions on why her policies better irrelevant. it doesn't matter - she won't fulfill her promises.
Brody James
>On gun control: “If you are too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America.” - that is a reasonable proposition, no? >too dangerous to get on a plane >Hey, everyone! These friendly Islamic refugees need our help! The irony..
Nathan Clark
>you can do 5 minutes of research into solar energy to find out exactly why that shit is unfeasible in massive quantities.
Please enlighten me. Because solar energy works and storage systems (e.g. hydro storage plants etc.) are available.
Evan Moore
Schnitzel, nobody fucking asked you.
Caleb Martinez
>All filled with her lies. Are you saying Trump has never lied? Seriously?
Trump is a big liar just as Hillary. Hillary's policies are still better by far.
Asher Kelly
>Why? Becasue it's rewarding people for breaking the law.
William Gutierrez
>you ignore the very foundation of your arguments, which is if hillary is trustworthy or not >she isn't.
She isn't trustworthy. True. But you can still bet that she will foster most of her policies when in office.
Same with Trump - which means you should not vote for Trump, because his policies are a lot worse for America than Hillary's which are actually great.
Lucas Anderson
some people would rather face a period of economic instability than be slowly erased.
Jacob Foster
>Becasue it's rewarding people for breaking the law. It's a solution to a decades long problem. Hurting the American economy just because "we don't want to reward people for doing what people did who founded the US and built it up for hundreds of years - coming to the country" is just a big BS.
Jace Gonzalez
>destroy massive areas of desert and riverlands, while digging up millions of tons of toxic heavy metals to build solar panels and hydro plants >at least we aren't burning things anymore :^)
Alexander Long
>some people would rather face a period of economic instability than be slowly erased. Erased by white Christians coming in from Latin America? What???
Do you know how much we in Germany would appreciate the influx of millions of hard working Christian Latin Americans ... instead of Muslim gibmees sandpeople?
Nathaniel Hernandez
Every reply with you is about pricing. How about the fragility of solar panels,natural decay of a hugely complex system of interconnected panels and accumulators,creating a whole new system specifically for this type of electrical supply,never mind the fucking fact the stupid things are only worth a damn if it's sunny most of the year,which would fuck up half the country during the colder seasons,and even in the spring/summer you are at complete mercy of the weather gods.There's more to an incredibly complex electricity supply system than the price per watt,fuckface. And nigga,I really hope when you say hydro storage plants you don't mean hydro as in hydrogen,because even a first-year in physics will explain to you how storing anything bigger than fuck-all in hydro plants is way more hazardous than a regular electricity-producing dam. t. electrical supply graduate,5 years worth of managment of power grids.
Luis Fisher
There are people on the no-fly list that have never commited a violent crime in their life. They've put radio show hosts with anti-government rhetoric on no fly lists, even though that's not an indicator of terroristic action.
And with anti-gun democrats further in office, you'll just be giving them more power to put whoever they want on this magical "no fly no buy list."
Xavier Morales
>It's a solution to a decades long problem. Hurting the American economy just because "we don't want to reward people for doing what people did who founded the US and built it up for hundreds of years - coming to the country" is just a big BS. I'm sick of hearing that argument. Our ancestors didn't emigrate and settle on this continent under modern circumstances; they conquered the land through persistence and war. There wasn't a "country" here before whites arrived, there were tribes. Now there is a country, and now there are rules. Don't act like illegals here are the same as settlers hundreds of years ago.
Nolan Mitchell
>She isn't trustworthy. True. But you can still bet that she will foster most of her policies when in office.
foster what? more contempt for politics in the US? people want results, not rhetoric. people believe trump, not hillary.
>you should not vote for Trump
dont tell me what to do cucky boy
Juan Long
There is literally no remedy for getting off no-fly list. Even Senator Ted Kennedy, JFK's brother, had to call in favors for 3 weeks to get off it because a "terrorist" used "T. Kennedy" as an alias.
The list is absurd. If they are a terrorist, investigate them. If they aren't, then they shouldn't be on some extra-judicial hit list.
It doesn't even make us safer. If a terrorist is on the no-fly list, they'd just send another person who wasn't on the list. Its literally an illusion of security.
Anthony Torres
>It's a solution to a decades long problem. So are the deportations.
>Hurting the American economy just because Pure conjecture.
>for doing what people did who founded the US and built it up for hundreds of years You do realize that people who founded US wouldn't allow non-whites to be citizens right?
Aaron White
Germany confirmed for cucks buying lelnuwable from le merchant to show the world they are no nazis anymore
Sebastian Sanchez
Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw, Merkel.
Isaac Lewis
Oh look, it's a German with an opinion -- I'll be sure to add this to the list of worthless things I don't give a shit about.
Ayden Bailey
Mate she said she would RAISE taxes for the middle class.
>On gun control: “If you are too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America.” - that is a reasonable proposition, no? no. i wouldnt expect a eurocuck to understand the concept of due process, though.
>"On my first day as President, I'll set two big goals. I want the U.S. to have half a billion solar panels by 2020. And I want us to generate enough renewable electricity to power every home in America in the next 10 years." - wouldn't that be awesome? fairy-tale levels of delusion
Jose Green
>>destroy massive areas of desert and riverlands, while digging up millions of tons of toxic heavy metals to build solar panels and hydro plants
Solar panels are mostly build from sand. But then there are alternative solar panel designs which are researched right now and may be applied as thin film panels, such as perovskite solar cells - those are titanium calcium cells, both non-toxic materials which are only required in small quantities for massive numbers of solar cells. indianexpress.com/article/technology/science/new-material-may-lead-to-cheaper-solar-cells-2933015/
As to "destroy deserts and riverlands" - what?
David Perry
She's a liar. She flipflopped more than any US politician in history on almost everything. She cannot be allowed to become president because her word is as good as that of a Jew. >Untrustworthy
Carson Hill
Trump's "lies" never resulted in the deaths of innocent Americans and jeopardized national security, you dipshit
Joshua Johnson
>europe is a fucking mess >brink of civil war >unruly muslim population setting shit on fire and attacking people with sharp objects daily >borders still wide open >governments arresting people who express the slightest displeasure with the current situation
>has the gall to tell americans what good policies are and are not
Wewest of lads.
Samuel Clark
>They've put radio show hosts with anti-government rhetoric on no fly lists, even though that's not an indicator of terroristic action. Source. Again, with an appeals system, that is a great system and has kept America safe.
>you'll just be giving them more power to put whoever they want on this magical "no fly no buy list." There are checks and balances for government action. You can't just put people on the no fly list for no reason. And again, if there is an effective appeals system, where is the problem? If you are put by mistake on a list and are eliminated again after 14 days of an appeal, then why not use that list for gun control?
Nathaniel Sanchez
>Now there is a country, and now there are rules. So there was no country in 1890 or 1910 or 1925 or 1936 etc.? WTF?
Kayden Evans
>As to "destroy deserts and riverlands" - what? those panels and dams have to go somewhere m8
Xavier Bell
great deflection there user
Aaron Campbell
Flying on a aircraft is not a constitutional right.
Matthew Jackson
the government doesnt get to decide if you can exercise human rights, cuck. if they have probable cause that can stand up to court scrutiny, then they can temporarily suspend your rights and THEY have to prove YOUR guilt. we dont have to prove our innocence.
Jordan Perez
>There is literally no remedy for getting off no-fly list. >here is a "story" of a person who got off the list in 3 weeks You just destroyed your argument.
>If they are a terrorist, investigate them. They do. But sometimes terrorist suspects can't be jailed immediately. But better not to have them fly or get a gun, right? Wouldn't it have been great to have all the domestic terrorists who have been known to the authorities on the "no gun" list?
>If a terrorist is on the no-fly list, they'd just send another person who wasn't on the list. Yeah, because a lone gunman terrorist idiot like most shooters and domestic terrorists can just call up "terrorist buddies" to blow up planes.
Jayden Hall
I'm voting hillary because in a world full of pieces of shit, I want the biggest piece of at the helm fo this great nation to combat the other pieces of shit
Cameron Ross
>Mate she said she would RAISE taxes for the middle class. Her official policy is to lower taxes for the middle class and raise them for the rich. True story, m8.
Blake Barnes
we are registered voters. not you. stop wasting your time trying to tell us who to vote for if you can't even vote yourself, you fucking retard
Angel Nguyen
We weren't discussing trump, Ahmed. I thought you wished to discuss Hillary and her lies. I mean promises. But by all means, tell me about trumps lies to the American people. Then I can tell you more Hillary lies.
Kind of pointless seeing as how you can't vote, and I'd eat raw kittens before voting for Hillary. But by all means, continue in whatever direction you'd like.
Matthew Nguyen
>Trump's "lies" never resulted in the deaths of innocent Americans and jeopardized national security, you dipshit
So which "lies" of Hillary resulted in the deaths of innocent Americans? Come on, tell us.
Austin Williams
I think you're missing the point of mine, and your own argument. Whenever you use that "But whites were illegals once!" argument, what you're basically saying is the Native Americans had an established civilization here that we were trying to get in on. Because America was rich as all hell before we came along, right? They were totally a world power back then! I mean, come on! It's 1492!
Leo Phillips
>not importing electricity You import the resources to produce electricity,true.
Christopher Jackson
You never know, under the current paradigm, he might be able to register as a democrat and actually vote.
Jaxon Perez
>wants to have an argument about US politics >isn't informed enough to have an argument about US politics >ITT faggots
Jonathan Bennett
Oh, everyone look, CHINA is trying to tell us how to talk about politics.
Haven't you got some coal-power plant and oil induced smog to inhale and then DIE?
Matthew Bennett
So you're naive or willfully ignorant.
Do you roll your eyes whenever Libya is brought up?
Andrew Lopez
Because democrats usually follow up on their promises, right? ...Right?
Keep dreaming Michel.
Parker Sanders
Is this that famous German hospitality I'm experiencing right now?
It's okay, lads, we've made a bunch of duplicates of German towns you can come visit once Germany has burnt itself to the ground.
Daniel Evans
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Zachary Murphy
>Hillary has the better policies TOP FUKIN KEK You dont seem to understand what ramifications are. Do you take everything at face value? Do you let Mahmood fuck your woman because you are not multicultural enough?
Leo Rivera
>those panels and dams have to go somewhere m8 Yes, on land that is unused. Doesn't have to be sensible "riverlands". Where are we anyway, Middle Earth?
Pic related, I don't see a devastated desert anywhere. It's fucking beautiful!
Ethan Cruz
On gun control: The no fly list, as it currently operates, isn't good criteria for gun control. The reason is that no one is ever told that they are on the no fly list until they try to fly somewhere. Expanding this to take away someone's second amendment right without due notification of why violates the 6th amendment.
On Syria and Iraq: Given her absolute failure as Secretary of State, I'm hesitant to let her anywhere near the Middle East again. You also missed the part where she wants a hardline stance against Assad. She wants to remove another leader of a Middle Eastern country and leave open a power vacuum. Frankly, if we worked with Russia and fought ISIS at full strength, they should be gone within a year.
On Taxes: Given how bought off she is by Wall Street, I don't see this happening. If it does happen, then fine. Just note that Trump also wants to get rid of tax loopholes. His plan would reduce taxes for all, while Clinton's only raises taxes on the top bracket by closing loopholes. The main argument for Trump's plan is essentially trickle down economics in that lower taxes would give businesses more incentive to place jobs in the US and help stimulate the economy.
On Renewable Energy: How feasible is it to have all of America run on renewable energy? Have the dilute and intermittent problems for renewable energy been fixed in a manner where they can feasibly replace coal and natural gas?
You also neglected to mention some of her other policies, like renewing the assault weapons ban, allowing even more refugees without vetting them, possibly granting amnesty to several illegal immigrants, and taking an unnecessarily hardline stance against Russia.
Leo Gutierrez
>If you are too dangerous to get on a plane if a court of law made this determination in the public record I would find it a reasonable benchmark. we already disallow felons from their 4th A rights.
the no fly list isn't reached constitutionally, which is fine for flight, but not guns
stopped reading there
Jeremiah Diaz
>the government doesnt get to decide if you can exercise human rights, What? Of course the government does that. It is a human right to be free. But if you are a criminal, you are imprisoned by the fucking government, taking away one of the most basic human rights.
Adrian Watson
I'm embarrassed to be the same German, honestly. Trump for president. MAGA.
How were you even hired for CTR as a German?
Daniel Lopez
>It would boost American GDP by a shitton proofs?
Grayson Howard
you're arguing solar panels now? i bet you don't even known about a fraction of that industry or how it really works
>look at all this unused land!
you sure seem like you know what you're talking about
William Morris
>he believes the solar energy meme
You Germans are so fucking pathetic. Disgusting honestly. You deserve Everything that you are getting.
Evan Walker
>stop wasting your time trying to tell us who to vote for if you can't even vote yourself,
"Oh no, don't tell us about American politics, I don't wanna hear that Hillary has good policies, I don't want to discuss anything, Trump is God, Trump is life, he will build the wall, then everything will be great, Hillary is sooo bad, renewables are bad, coal is good, taxes are bad, ISIS is bad so we need to nuke them, etc."
WTF? Do you know how many Burgers have told Germans what to do with Merkel and the asylum seekers? If you just want to talk to Americans, go to some fucking American-only board.
Can someone from Germany calm this PoS down he is trying WAY to fucking hard to bait
Austin Turner
If the illegals were all deported, the economy would take a brief hit, then recover once citizens fill in those newly vacant jobs.
This, combined with Trump's policies to try and bring back more jobs to America, would theoretically lead to a surplus of jobs with a deficit of potential employees. This would force employers to offer higher wages as employees would then have more options for what job they want to do and who they would want to work for.
You idea to give the illegals amnesty would create the exact opposite effect, a surplus of workers and a deficit of jobs. This depresses wages and, given Hillary's idiotic minimum wage policy, would probably lead to a bigger push for automation, further ruining jobs.
Not to mention amnesty basically rewards a person for breaking the law.
Robert Mitchell
anyone hillary doesn't like for whatever reason.
>Do you think the government is spying on you? well looks like you can't own a gun!
