They were never ruled by Russians until Georgy Malenkov in the 1955. Throughout history they have been dominated by foreign rulers wheather it's the Mongols, the Rurik Dynasty, the Communists, or the Romanovs.
>Rurik Dynasty Not a single leader of Russia in the Rurik Dynasty was born in Russia. Not only were they ethnically Dutch but not a single Rurik ruler was even BORN in Russia,
>Mongols Self explanatory, ruled by foreign Asians
>Romanovs Ethnically German and didn't care about Russians at all.
>Communist Jews They were ruled by communist jews who didn't even consider themselves Russian and identified more as Jews than Russians
>Stalin From Georgia
And then FINALLY after like 1000 years you get a Russian leader, Georgy Malenkov
At least they got one. England hasnt had an anglo monarch for over a millenia and still wont forever
Jason Bennett
LOL that's true as well. And even if they did have an anglo-saxon monarch that wouldn't count since most English are ethnically CELTIC. But all monarchs since 1066 have been Norman or German.
Levi Carter
Russians are a subhuman slave race everyone knows this including the average normie. The fucking orcs in LOTR were based on Russians
Brayden Ramirez
>Not a single leader of Russia in the Rurik Dynasty was born in Russia. I don't even. >flag Oh.
Jaxon Brown
>Russians are a subhuman slave race everyone knows this including the average normie wow wow wow I think you're going a LITTLE too far now.
>The fucking orcs in LOTR were based on Russians Seriously? I'll have to read more into this.
Wyatt Wright
>i don't even I knew there would be a Russian denying this.
Blake Gonzalez
Well they didn't teach me that shit in public school.
Cameron Phillips
What are you trying to say?
Brandon Morgan
>Not a single monarch of Canada has ever been born in Canada, not only that but the Queen is also ethnically German.
Michael Flores
>not only that but the Queen is also ethnically German. Thats a good point. I agree with that but not this one
>Not a single monarch of Canada has ever been born in Canada Canadians are ethnically British so IF the Queen was ethnically British we wouldn't be cucks.
Jayden Miller
According to German historians.
If you believe the whole scandinavian myth, you're a turd.
Juan Cruz
Even after all this Russia is still a greater country the Canada could ever hope to be. But I suppose a leaf would be an expert on cucking so congrats on that.
Chase Gray
Alright just google Rurik, every source says his birthplace was the Netherlands. Also then search all his kids they were all born in Kievan Rus which is Ukraine. And their maternal side comes from Sweden.
How is Russia greater than Canada? I mean sure it has more influence but for the people in the country it's a nightmare.
Lucas Fisher
>He doesn't know that the Normans are originally from Denmark.
Juan James
>all his kids they were all born in Kievan Rus which is Ukraine So, all one of them (Igor)? Who was born when Kiev wasn't even ruled by his dynasty?
Are you aiming for a leaftread to end all leaftreands?
You mean Norway? And Anglo-Saxons don't come from Denmark they come from Germany
Kiev was ruled by the Rurik dynasty WTF are you talking about And are you saying Igor was born in Russia?
Michael King
Rurik was born in Netherlands so I was just guessing he was Dutch
Gabriel Young
we wuz dutch merchants
Owen Hernandez
UK cucked by the Danes as always.
Jackson Murphy
>Kiev was ruled by the Rurik dynasty WTF Kiev was conquered by Oleg of Novgorod after Rurik's death. Oleg was ruling while Igor was still a kid. So Igor was born either in Novgorod or earlier in Scandinavia. Why are you such a fucking leaf?
Leo Stewart
Haha true
What? I'm not claiming to be anyone I'm just pointing out this fact.
Jason Lopez
Thank you for correcting the record
Ryan Thomas
>Rurik was born in Netherlands so I was just guessing he was Dutch
That's like saying a Muslim born in Germany is just German. Are you a liberal?
Blake Martinez
>Kiev was conquered by Oleg of Novgorod after Rurik's death Rurik died in 988 and Kiev was created in 983 so no that's not true.
>So Igor was born either in Novgorod or earlier in Scandinavia He was born a year before Ruriks death when Novgored was already formed so if anything Novgored according to you. I still say Keivan Rus considering it was formed 6 years before he was born
Juan James
Normans were vikings that went west, mainly danes then norwegians and southern sweden. Anglo-Saxons were from Angeln (part of Jutland, the danish land on the european mainland) however most brits are celtic and not germanic.
Bentley Smith
>According to the FamilyTreeDNA Rurikid Dynasty DNA Project, Rurik appears to have belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup N1c1, based on testing of his modern purported male line descendants. N1c1 is not widely found in Scandinavian countries, but is overwhelmingly found among Baltic and Finnish ethnicities. The N1c1 haplotype possess the distinctive value DYS390=23, also rarely found in Scandinavia. The closest relatives of the Rurikid haplotype are found in coastal Finland.
kek Russians were ruled by Finns
Christian Martin
No but back then that was before a lot of travel went on. So 99% of the time someone born in that country is that country ethnically.
Jonathan Parker
But in all seriousness, with a name like Rurik, how could he not be Scandinavian?
Wyatt Rivera
Thats very true. Brits are 70% Celtic.
LOL goes even more toward my point.
Jason Price
Just Russia having greater influence makes it a greater country but things like them defeating the Nazis even after the millions of lives lost is quite an achievement. Then there's them overcoming communism and the other few million lives lost during that ordeal. Becoming a superpower in such a short amount of time and just being more relevant in today's world makes Russia greater then Canada
Evan Jackson
POO
Lucas White
Because modern ((historians)) don't want him to be.
Chase Wright
>Rurik died in 988 and Kiev was created in 983 Okay, so it's a troll thread.
Jeremiah Butler
>Just Russia having greater influence makes it a greater country but things like them defeating the Nazis even after the millions of lives lost is quite an achievement. Then there's them overcoming communism and the other few million lives lost during that ordeal. Becoming a superpower in such a short amount of time and just being more relevant in today's world makes Russia greater then Canada IDK they are kind of a pussy country with Putin. He has really strict hate speech laws and anti-holocaust denial stuff.
Tyler Parker
I meant 883 and you're obviously a troll.
Michael Roberts
That's nothing compared to your leader and what he has done.
Andrew Gonzalez
My leader says a lot of stupid stuff but he doesn't take away others rights like Putin. Not to mention Putin is basically selling out Russia to his buddies.
Andrew Torres
Your dates are wrong anyway.
Landon Cooper
The connection with the Netherlands was raiding of the Netherlands (if it was really Rurik of Dorestad). Rurik was of Scandinavian stock.
The Rurik dynasty kept close contact with Scandinavia and they all had names of norse origin. Olav the Holy spent time with his relatives in Novgorod before he returned to rule Norway.
I was right about his death. And are you saying that Ruriks son Igor was born in Novgored? Just asking because I could be wrong about this whole thread
Xavier Sullivan
>romanov didn't care about russians it was the last time someone did >has a problem with them being germanized you know very little about european monarchies system do you dont need to exaggerate, you can push this narrative without that
still more relevant than canada tho
Jeremiah Perry
Russians BTFO
Isaiah Reyes
Rurik died in 879, so both of your dates were wrong. You do know you can check Wikipedia?
Igor was most likely born in Novgorod. That doesn't really matter, because dozens on rulers after him were born in Russia, even if you exclude Kievan Rus for whatever reason.
Anthony Perez
>it was the last time someone did then why did he exploit them for money? He was the richest man on earth off their wealth
>you know very little about european monarchies I know a lot
Adrian Sullivan
Could you list some of the rulers in the Rurik dynasty who were not born in Kievan Rus/Russia? The dynasty lasted until Ivan the Terrible btw.
Levi Miller
Trudeau has probably done a lot on restricting hate speech which I feel is taking away someone's rights to. Who is Putin selling Russia to and why? He loves russia. Where do you hear these things leaf?
Oliver Gray
I can't at all. It either says their birthplace is unknown or they are born in modern Ukraine.
Sebastian Martin
>Trudeau has probably done a lot on restricting hate speech which I feel is taking away someone's rights to Nope laws in Canada go you can't promote genocide against a certain ethnic group.
>Who is Putin selling Russia to and why His friends and it's because he wants to run Russia like an Oligarchy.
>He loves russia. Where do you hear these things leaf? Wikileaks.
Camden Powell
Kievan Rus was the origin of the Russia empire and the Rus people, who according to most historians were Scandinavians who eventually blended with the slavic tribes. Doesn't matter if it's in modern Ukraine.
Oliver Cox
Norman aren't danes, they are french both culturally and genetically.
Here is a pic of the average dark haired norman.
Landon Johnson
Saged because serial troll.
Eli Robinson
T. Communist Leaf
Jason James
says the cucknadian
Jack Edwards
You're a bad troll, like a really bad one
It's not like Kievan Rus was considered Russian at the time tho.
Ayden Stewart
>Rus' >Dutch
OK :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Jayden Martin
Russian means slavs baptized in Christianity under the rule of Rurik, Russian today means people under the rule of the regime seen encompassing Eastern Europe and North Asia, Russian Federation is not a nation.
Evan Rogers
under the rule of Vladimir* When the Jews killed the Tsar they brought Russia to a pre Russian state, barbarous tribes.
Mason Walker
>Rus >Finish suuuuurreee buddy
So was Igor a Russian?
Gabriel Gutierrez
A non Christian does not belong to any Christian nation.
Isaiah Ortiz
Wait are you literally defending the Tsars? They exploited the Russian people to no end.
Michael Mitchell
Norman comes from norseman (nordmann is how Norwegians refer to themselves).
Rollo cucked the French and was given Normandie in return for preventing further raids. It's up in the air whether Rollo was Danish or Norwegian. They have recently opened his tomb recently to determine if he was the same Rollo of west Norway.
This is mainstream, undisputed history, who cares if they have blended with the French since then.
Anyway, you do know about the existence of Vladimir-Suzdal Rus, Grand Duchy of Moscow, etc?
Wyatt Green
> Rurik Dynasty Scandinavs from Rus tribe. Origin of us. >Mongols Where unable to live in frozen hell and unable to occupy the castles (because had no food preservation tech). >Romanovs Assimilated by us culturally and ethnically. Good, truly Russian dynasty. >Communist Jews>Stalin>other minority shit, that infested Russian lands during korenization Killed many of us, but did not manage to change us.
>He was Scandinavian I know but where was he physically born. Just wondering
>existence of Vladimir-Suzdal Rus, Grand Duchy of Moscow, etc? never heard of it
>Scandinavs from Rus tribe. Origin of us. Russians are Slavs, Rus tribe was not
>Where unable to live in frozen hell and unable to occupy the castles (because had no food preservation tech). They didn't want castles they lived in huts
>Assimilated by us culturally and ethnically. Good, truly Russian dynasty. They were all pure German
>Killed many of us, but did not manage to change us. Exactly.
Dominic Peterson
DNA is a Jewish science.
Charles Price
I hate all you filthy Bolshevik leafs, I can smell Bolshevism from a single sentence.
Owen Allen
You know the Tsar was worse than the communists right?
Bentley Sanchez
All Kikes MUST be rounded up and deported to the middle east, every single last one.
Failure to do so must require war.
Wyatt Turner
>Not a single leader of Russia in the Rurik Dynasty was born in Russia
didn't care about russians, but made it the biggest country on Earth.
Ayden Price
>Russike education everyone!!!!!
>didn't care about russians, but made it the biggest country on Earth. Idiot they made it big for themselves! You know what life was like for a Russian peasant? You had no chance of getting anywhere in life, the rich aristocracy held all the wealth. All you did was work and pay taxes to the Tsar.
Leo Davis
"Kievan Rus'" is a meme.
Had anyone ever bothered to read an actual historical book, or Trump/God/Putin/Baal forbid it, actual primary historical sources, it would soon have come to light that there is NOT A SINGLE mention of this term, identity, entity whatsoever. Ros (Greek) = Rus = Ruthen (Latin). Rossiya = Rus'(sia) = Ruthenia. Rosskaya zemlaya is the term used for all those medieval Russian principalities. Your "Kievan Rus'" culture and entity started before even Kiev was a thing or under Rus rule, and lasted far longer than only the time Kiev was the center or capital.
Go. Read a fucking book. Discard softback and popular, wikipedia history and other abominations.
Levi Bennett
>Mongols never ruled over Russia, they collected taxes and from a part of Rus, not all of it. >Rurik Rurik Dynasty was initially Scandinavian, so are Russians, they are Norse and Balto-Finnic mix. >Romanovs They were of mixed European ancestry althogh heavily German and most of them loved Russia and worked for the betterment of it.
Michael Sanders
>didn't care about Russians at all.
Nolan Fisher
What the fuck are you talking about, people were paid what they produced, land was given to the people and many got rich, drug addicts, criminal scums and shit still existed.
Cameron Peterson
>Jews Jew is not a race you stupif germanic pig
Grayson Peterson
>They were of mixed European ancestry althogh heavily German More precisely, first Romanovs were purely Russian (as the surname suggests) until Elizabeth (daughter of Peter the Great), and then the crown went to a side branch (son of a German prince and another daughter of Peter).
Cooper Richardson
You do realize anyone can write a book and publish it right? It's a shit-tier source
>never ruled over Russia, they collected taxes and from a part of Rus, not all of it. So they had it under control if they taxed it
>Rurik Dynasty was initially Scandinavian, so are Russians, they are Norse and Balto-Finnic mix. No russians are actually slavic
>They were of mixed European ancestry althogh heavily German and most of them loved Russia and worked for the betterment of it. THey DISPISED Russia
>factory that makes profits for aristocracy >houses that pay 50% rent to the Tsar >Church which runs as the Tsars mouthpiece >boats which export all Russian wealth for the Tsars personal wealth.
Then the Tsar caused world war 1 in which while he sat on his throne his men went out to die.
Lucas Roberts
>European ancestry Roman and greek?
Last i read was that germanics arent european
Nolan Gutierrez
Yes taxes went to pay administrators and such, what is your point?
Christian Parker
Do you know how crony capitalism works? All the land was given to the aristocracy, which rented it to the peasants for really high rates. Basically if you weren't in the top 5 percent income bracket life was a living hell. All your profits went to the Tsar or the aristocracy
Jackson Brooks
How old are you?
Jacob Anderson
Any sources on this pre-Varangian entity you can point me to? Surely there were tribes, but you're telling me there was an entity comparable to Kiev before the Varangians?
Cooper Morris
I think you're forgetting about James I, Charles I and Charles II. They were Scottish so it fits into your epic meme but you're still wrong
Caleb Cook
So you work and you pay taxes that you will never see again. 95% of your wealth you create goes to the rich.
Jace Bailey
The Norman dynasty didn't even last 100 years.
The current British Royal family is german, they even changed their name during WW1.
Lincoln Thompson
Spain - conquered by shitskins, ruled by germans and french. Portugal - ruled by burgundians. England - le meme since 1066. Poland - ruled by french, hungarians, litvins, swedes > Hurr durr, Russians are the Biggest Historical Cucks!!! England
Brody Lee
Who cares about what some negroid sudaca reads? Go clean resort, brown subhuman piece of shit. Undereducated Imbecile: The Post
Nathan Moore
I show you evidence of WORKER conditions, then you make an assumption of a non provable opinion.
Those who worked lived very well.
Joseph Stewart
18
I'm right
Oliver Anderson
Geography has kept them isolated from the rest of the world for hundreds of years. They did not have the Renaissance, the age of Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution. They then followed up a revolution against the Czar with a bloody Bolshevik take over which kept the country continually fucked up. And now they have Putin and a massive Heroin epidemic destroying the country.
Russia really is the asshole of the world, barely 144mil inhabitants 99% of which are alcoholic subhuman druggies.
Russia is only second to North Korea in how pathetic they are as a country. Even their military is made up of poorly trained, unmotivated recruits and Soviet-era tech.
