>Captain America is now a black male. >Iron Man is now a black female. >Thor is now a disabled, white female. >The Hulk is now an Asian male. >Spider-Man is now a bi-racial, Mexican and black, male. >Wolverine is now a white female. >Captain Marvel is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. >Nick Fury is now a black male. >Iceman is now a homosexual. >Captain Britain is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. >Ghost Rider is now a Mexican male. >The original, white Captain America is now a Nazi.
What the fuck is going on at this company right now? I'm all for diversity, but why do the constantly keep shitting on legacy instead of establishing new characters in a meaningful and sensible way?
Oliver James
Cause shitty marvel is currently riding the PC wave right now.
Xavier James
Marvel is so Degenerate
Ethan Gray
Because no one cares about totally new characters We have this thread several times a day dude
Lucas Jones
Sup Forums, stop shitting up our board.
Joshua Wilson
If it makes you feel better, Thor's base form has always been disabled.
Asher King
> Le Sup Forums bogeyman >how dare people have the gall dislike terrible writing that panders to my leftist bullshit
Robert Peterson
It's all about Ike Perlmutter's hatred of Kevin Feige. He's hellbent on destroying their ip-s, so the movie division can't mine it anymore.
Isaiah Martin
Anything stopping movies to use stories from 1960's?
Parker Williams
Yeah, because the big 2 have never been known for pandering or terrible writing before. It's totally a product of this new Internet degeneracy that I read about on Stormfront.
Dominic Martinez
You've triggered my autismo, because Eric Masterson wasn't disabled. I also wouldn't coun't being a frog as a disability, but that's arguable.
Adam Mitchell
You forgot spiderwoman being pregnant
When is marvel gonna make a character fat
Cooper Brooks
He thought of that doctor whose body Thor hijacked.
Jonathan Sanchez
>shitting on legacy What the fuck are you talking about?
Those ARE all new characters, they're just taking on old mantles. This has been done a trillion times. There have been multiple Captain Americas, Captain Britains, Captain Marvels, Ghost Riders, Hulks, and even Thors but it's only suddenly a problem when they're anything but white?
You don't even read comics, so fuck off and choke on cum, you unbelievable faggot.
Aaron Jones
I remember when this first started
>Don't worry guys it's not like there going to be changing every character just a few.
Bet those people feel like faggots now
The nick fury doesent count though that's just synergy which while bad is a whole other issue and Samuel l Jackson was the perfect choice for the role
And captain marvel is both still there and an inferior character then her replacement (although she's inferior because they fucked her for pandering reasons)
Bentley Campbell
Nuh uhhhh back then it was different cuz now pandering and he said on twitter and sjws and advertising and I'm a crabby bitch now and everythings ruined!
Josiah Jenkins
>Captain marvel is now a middle eastern female and a Muslim >Captain marvel >middle eastern It's ms marvel, not captain marvel, and she isnt middle eastern, shes pakistani. That's south asia.
Juan Robinson
>why do the constantly keep shitting on legacy instead of establishing new characters No one buys new minority characters and surprisingly businesses like making money.
Grayson Nguyen
There is a difference between mantles being sensibly passed and not. I don't really mind Falcon becoming Captain America since he's an established close friend of Steve Rogers, and if anyone was going to take up the mantle it would be him. In the same way Rhodney becoming the Iron Man wouldn't be so bad, it happened before and there is an established dynamic.
Now things like that new Iron Girl is complete bullshit. You have a new characters that comes out of nowhere and Tony Stark just randomly decides to make her the new Iron Man. That's just pandering to the SJW crowd and terrible writing in general, as expected of Bendis
Bentley Sanders
>Captain Marvel is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. No
Christopher Lee
Kamala's not middle eastern, dumbfuck american.
Hudson Lopez
>>The original, white Captain America is now a Nazi.
It's like you didn't even read issue #2, just like everyone else who's bitching about Captain Hydra
Gavin Wright
>Implying half of these characters are not established and related to the mantle they have right Now >implying these characters are ruined because they have another mantle > implying the originals wont come back in a few years and take back their place
Lucas Ortiz
It's because you let everyone know it pisses you off. While normie fans somehow like this shit, writers and fans buy comics just to spite you or prove on some blog they aren't racist. It's why the some comics start to fail after a while regardless of the quality of the comic. Your also implying that they aren't going to make big bucks on "bringing the old gang back together"
Jackson Williams
Marvel assured us that it was for real, not a fake-out. I trust The House of Ideas, why don't you?
Robert Sanders
Over half his points are just flat out wrong. Of course he doesn't read comics.
Chase Perez
>but why do the constantly keep shitting on legacy instead of establishing new characters in a meaningful and sensible way?
They don't sell. Comics are a business and need to make money. New characters don't sell and take off and that's been proven time and time again.
Not to mention you got half your shit wrong. Way to go
Evan Davis
You mean sand naggers come from different places?
Ayden Ross
There's a huge difference between going in a new direction with a character and obviously trying to out-PC the opposing company
Seriously, you can't look at that huge like of changes and go 'yeah they have no agenda they're just writing new characters'
Angel Rodriguez
Retards who have no idea who their audience is. Those retards took over because nobody cares about Marvel Comics right now since the movies are the ones making real money right now.
Nope, and thankfully, when they take modern comics like Civil War, they take the base idea and ignore everything else.
Luis Butler
Plus isn't Nick Jr. just a bi racial offspring of original Fury
Carter Howard
Making new characters is hard and requires work. Can't do as much pandering if you have to put in actual work yknow
Jeremiah Reyes
>I hate >neegars >homosaxuals >females >mexi-cans >disabled white peeple
Hunter Sanders
>>Captain Britain is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. >Captain Marvel is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. >Spider-Man is now a bi-racial, Mexican and black, male.
Anthony Jackson
>Captain Britain is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. You have valid points with the rest, but this only happened in an event tie-in that was set in an alternate universe that was wiped out midway through the event itself, and she only showed up again in another event tie in set in another alternate universe that no longer exists.
Jordan Russell
The thing that irks me about FeMale is that Iron Man comics introduced a spunky teenage black girl prodigy just a few years ago. PLUS she was related to Rhodey. The guy benis just killed.
Daniel Lee
>there's a timeline where every single one of these characters was replaced by a white guy and Sup Forums has spent the past several years shitposting about something else instead
Henry Russell
Emphasis on "shitposting" As in we wouldn't be reading comics anyway, we would just look for some other thing to shitpost about
Landon Reyes
You being here EVERY day is not healthy, nor is it something to be proud of, son. Let him have his discussion.
Dylan Watson
It's a reflection of the real world. Before the changes, every character was a white male. That is not a reflection of the world. That is a weird, beige fantasy land.
Jonathan Reyes
>they're just taking on old mantles. So in other words, not new at all.
Austin Harris
Yes user. Also reminder that anybody that trys to insult user by calling him an Amerifat instead of just saying he's a faggot is an even bigger faggot themselves.
Camden Brown
Dident you all here Carol is going to die at the end of civil war 2 leaving kamala to take her place.
Now I just hope the meme magic doesn't make that true.
Henry Wilson
Same. I Don't like it because they have established characters ready to pick up the mantle being passed but they write in completely new and hamfisted characters.
Hulk has 4 fucking kids. Lady Sif had a story of redeeming herself and becoming worthy of the hammer. Stark has had multiple people around him that he trusted take on the armor or give them suits.
But this isn't what would sell comics.
Alexander Lewis
Completely new super hero identities don't sell. Why do we have to go over this every fucking day?
Samuel Wilson
>We'v all been rused >Carol's new ongoing is actually about Tony in disfuise
Aaron Rogers
Skarr, Llyra, Skarr's brother and...?
Isaac Butler
Fem-Scorpion
Brody Morales
>Captain America is now a black male. Captain America is still Captain America. He leads an Avengers title and has a solo series. >Iron Man is now a black female. Not yet she isn't. All we have to go on is a PR push and a solicit. >Spider-Man is now a bi-racial, Mexican and black, male. Peter Parker is in ~6 titles every month. What are you complaining about? >Captain Marvel is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. You lie. >Captain Britain is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. You lie. >The original, white Captain America is now a Nazi. You lie again.
You don't even read comics. I mean, you think Excalibur is Captain Britain. You're an idiot.
Jaxon Rodriguez
>Thor is now a disabled, white female. I thought she had cancer, not that she was disabled.
Oliver Nelson
>>Captain America is now a black male. And Steve has never been gone, plus is now also Cap again. >>Iron Man is now a black female. And motherfucking DOOM, but that doesn't fit your narrative, huh? Also the alternative is no Ironman, since Tony will die. >>Thor is now a disabled, white female. And Odinson is already coming back. >>The Hulk is now an Asian male. Everyone and their dog has been a Hulk at some point. Enjoy you white, gun-twirling, mustached, patriotic Red Hulk in USAvengers. >>Spider-Man is now a bi-racial, Mexican and black, male. And a future dude, and a Brit, and a noir detective, and an Indian, and a Pig, and Gwen Stacy, and Mayday, and a pig, and Peter Parker. >>Wolverine is now a white female. ...clone of Logan. And also AU Logan, shut up. >>Captain Marvel is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. While Carol is Captain Marvel. And the Ms Marvel most people actually liked has always been a black chick. >>Nick Fury is now a black male. Not even new by any stretch of the imagination. Also Sam Jackson. >>Iceman is now a homosexual. Yeah, that's just bullshit. >>Captain Britain is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. Who showed up in one else-world mini and that's it. >>Ghost Rider is now a Mexican male. In a number of Ghost Riders, some of which have been Hispanics before >>The original, white Captain America is now a Nazi. For one story line, coming covers show him rolling with the good guys again. Falcon has been a werewolf in the meantime.
Also, no complaint that Starlord is a Jewish chick? Or that Wasp is a Russian-born girl?
Colton James
Great Lakes Avengers are coming back. That covers their social reject and loser demographics.
Ian Hughes
There was a span of some months when Steve was not Captain America. I think he meant Ms Marvel. Which is like the most Sup Forums has gushed over a comic character in years. We bitched for a week about her having short hair on a cover. And are you splitting hairs about Steve being a HYDRA operative due to shenanigans and not an NSDAP member? I don't read his title.
Sebastian Barnes
Forgot I had this book
Brody Sanders
Not marvel, but still fat.
Levi Martin
What happened to this guys?
Ryder Reed
>SJWs elated about change to comic they aren't going to buy and/or read
How's Ghostbusters doing again?
Luke Perez
Perlmutter, an out-of-touch fossil trying to follow the latest trends
Benjamin Ramirez
How is it actually doing?
Alexander Myers
>Captain America is two men >Iron Man is one man and one woman >Thor s one man and one woman >Spider-Man is two men >Wolveine is a clone >Captain Marvel is one woman >Miss Marvel is a different woman >Nick Fury is two men
Carson Scott
>>Nick Fury is two men What happened to the older one? I last read it in Secret Warrior that, despite being by Bendis, was rather cool, than I completely lost it until I recently discovered that he had a black son out of nowhere
Bentley Fisher
They do it because no one cares about superheroes; just established cultural icons.
Superman? Spiderman? Iron Man? Wolverine? Wonder Woman? The Hulk? Captain America?
These aren't "superheroes." They transcend the media they're born in. Doing controversial shit with the big boys means you get the big bucks for a little while, and then you can go back to normal after no one cares anymore.
Now, when they do it with characters normies would be hard pressed to name, let alone give a fuck about, it rarely works nearly as well. You get one to three issues of spiked sales, a slump lasting a few issues, and then a cancelled ongoing, typically. Sadly, this is still more profitable than the typical life support bullshit the comics industry operates on.
tl;dr: Everything is following the clickbait outrage model. Every single thing in media that you ever loved is now designed to piss you off so that you talk about it more. The news is clickbait, video games are clickbait, and comics are clickbait.
I mean, I hate sports, but at this point I think I'm just gonna try to get into soccer or football or some shit. At least then the narratives would be shit thick with a whole different brand of scum.
Jaxson Carter
All that sounds awful but how is DC doing by the way? Is DC better now?
Logan Gutierrez
Dc is at the best they have been in years.
Rebirth was a huge success
Jose Sullivan
Truth.
Xavier Gomez
>>Captain America is now a black male. A captain America is black, there are two >>Iron Man is now a black female. A Ironman is a girl, Doom is the other one, but don't expect either book to be good, it's written by Bendis >>Thor is now a disabled, white female. And Odinson is coming back with his own ongoing >>The Hulk is now an Asian male. And the other one is a war mongering army strong strong jalopy >>Spider-Man is now a bi-racial, Mexican and black, male. And the Amazing Spider-Man is still Peter Parker >>Wolverine is now a white female. And Logan is an old man >>Captain Marvel is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim. This isn't even close to being correct, would have worked better had you said she is an uninteresting dyke with no personality >>Nick Fury is now a black male That's Fury Jr. Junior >>Iceman is now a homosexual Heh, Bendis not understanding how time displacement works >>Captain Britain is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim Pretty sure that was just for the Battleworld tie in, have we seen Captain Britain post Secret Wars? >>Ghost Rider is now a Mexican male He's not actually a ghost rider and hasn't been seen since Battleworld ended. >>The original, white Captain America is now a Nazi. And still Captain America
Here is a better question, if all of this angers you, why are you reading it? Personally I'm having a damn good time with the titles from Marvel that are on my pull list. Did you read a headline on facebook, make a snarky quip and then realize it wouldn't get you any (you)s? You seem pretty dumb.
Hudson Bell
He's the new Watcher now.
yeah, it's whatever. but super easy for someone to retcon it as Keikaku imo
Ethan Lopez
Did someone say Junior?
Otherwise mostly almost verbatim what I said. We might have said this too many times.
Asher Reed
We have, people keep making this dumbass thread trying to be mad when actually a number of these minority comics are pretty damn good, Cho Hulk, Miss Marvel, ANGR, all great little comics. But they don't match up to the movies, so people like op get confused and angry.
You can really tell when someone just started reading comics in the past 5 years because they don't understand how things like Battleworld and Rebirth work and get angry when a character is killed off.
Christian Sanders
I started reading last year and I laugh at those guys.
Aaron Sanders
>And Odinson is coming back with his own ongoing Yea, he lost his hammer, his arm, his fucking name, and his series. But now he gets a piece of shit inferior replacement hammer and a FUCKING SIDE SERIES, so everything is alright!
Parker Myers
You mean The Unworthy Thor lost his name?
Aaron Cox
Dead or depowered.
Isaac Powell
Just because they've done it before doesn't excuse them doing it yet again.
Jason Allen
No, i mean Thor Odinson is now just Odinson, while Jane Foster calls herself Thor like it's a fucking title and not his birth name. It's like if falcon called himself Steve, and Steve just called himself Rogers. It's stupid bullshit, just like everything else about Whor.
Nathaniel Rivera
Even Batroc was able to avoid her hammer and strike back
Blake King
Yet she stalemated Odin.
Adrian Nguyen
Batroc confirmed almost skyfather-level
Aaron Thompson
"They've done it before si you can't complain about it now" At least DC can insert their racial character switches IE Chinese superman in a fun well written fresh way. Not just "here is super smart 15 year old quirky black girl lol so randumb"
Joseph Sanchez
Those being...?
Leo Ward
Try reading the thread, you dumbfuck.
David Hill
No, no. It's because you're fucking stupid.
Mason Hill
>they have the same powers therefore they are the same character
Kayden Anderson
see and
Isaiah Peterson
he got character assassinated, then put on the moon where nobody can see or talk to him again, and Marvel just stopped listening to people who had a problem with it.
i dont even know what that whole event even changed
Jaxson Bailey
That's bullshit. Marvel Comics just doesn't want to put any effort into it.
You think that Wolverine became popular out of nowhere? Fuck no.
He showed up in Uncanny X-Men where he got to interact with established characters and have awesome moments so that readers got to know and like him. Then the publisher released a mini-series to gauge the readers interest on him before deciding to release an ongoing starring him.
That's how you introduce new characters, but Marvel Comics would rather replace established characters by giving their mantle for new ones and thus create controversy with that.
Benjamin Flores
>Thor is now a disabled, white female.
She's not disabled at all. Jane has cancer which doesn't affect her as Thor at all.
It really depends with him. Sometime he's fat, sometime he's rather fit, and some other time it doesn't really matter since the tentacles include a girdle that completely cover his abdominal area
Leo Hernandez
And the people bitching about this probably couldn't tell the difference between Captain Britian and Union Jack.
Benjamin Sullivan
Don't you have a SUg thread to be posting in?
Christopher Brown
>Captain Marvel is now a Middle Eastern female and muslim I wish this was true