DC tops Marvel in june 2016

DC tops Marvel in june 2016

bleedingcool.com/2016/07/15/dc-comics-beats-marvel-on-marketshare-per-comic-in-june-2016/

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So it worked for a month, like the last time they did the same thing worked for a month.

Hurrah?

Long game it has never worked out for them and I am not about to believe this time will be any significant difference or drop off.

Good. Now let's see them keep it up. Save comics DC. Please.

The thing about this, is that DC is only publishing 30 ongoings now, 16 of them twice a month and 14 once a month, or 46 total releases per month. Marvel by comparison is upping their number of releases to about 60 ever since Civil War II. So Marvel will likely just beat DC through sheer glut even if DC sells more per issue.

It is cute you put that much stock in any single company.

>So it worked for a month, like the last time they did the same thing worked for a month.
It worked for a month and make Marvel shit in his pants and make marvel now....
And in the same time, image laught for this company war....

>Bleeding Cool has been experimenting with a new look at Diamond Comic’s monthly sales statistics, given the information available.

>Not just reporting the marketshare of each publisher, but looking at the marketshare divided by the amount of titles publish, to work out the average marketshare per comic.

>Because, while Marvel Comics had an over 40% dollar share to DC’s under 30% dollar share, Marvel published 112 comics and 42 collections, to DC’s 69 comics and 30 collections.

>So how did each title, on average per publisher perform?

>Dividing the marketshare by the amount of published titles, and multiplied by a hundred for easier reading, this is how the chart looks now.

>Retail Marketshare per title sold – basically how much money each title brought in.

>And Unit marketshare, basically how much marketshare per title based on how many were sold.

>Not only does DC take the top spot over Marvel, but on the marketshare per title measured by units sold, Valiant jumps onto fourth place. And on both charts, IDW plummets, selling plenty of comics, but publishing plenty of titles as well…

>sales = quality
This argument is already retarded when discussing Marvel, Sup Forums; don't make the same mistake twice, please.

Btw I'm a hardcore DCfag.

>image
Yeah, they're sure this time the Big Two will kill each other and Image will be the only publisher standing...

>DC finally beat Marvel, all they had to do was reboot their universe and change all of the sales criteria

Geez

Good to know. A little competition only good will do to both companies and the industry as whole. Also it could bring some quality finally to Marvel books, instead of their current crap.

>reboot their universe

That didn't fucking happen.

Not exactly. DC just understood some of their mistakes from the Nu52, and they are giving back to the fans, what they asked for. Nostalgia is a far more strong factor, than the BS forced "diversity" crap that Marvel currently pushing to out throats. Most fans want to read about the characters with whom grow up with, not watching them killed or being replaced by cheap knock-offs

The Nu52 also sold way better than Marvel its first month out of the gate.

It is DCs management of a thing after it gains any momentum that is their problem not their ability to Say we are Sorry and try to start again.

I agree that the big three is stupid , but they are using the situation to get marvel author

Welcome to the future bro, but this isn't 2011 anymore

>literally Nostalgia Faggotry: the Post
Gross.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive

Because dc selling better is an indication that people are getting better taste

I don't know about the management, but DC currently is trying to deliver some quality with their books, and for a big part they are succeding. Their Rebirth books are much better in comparison with Marvel's current product. Is it going to last? Hard to say, but for now at least they are trying to do so.

Holy shit look at Valiant

You could copy and paste this quote 3 years ago and it also would not have been out of place.

You can call it how you like, but nostalgia is a driving force that is hard to ignore, and brings money. For example faggotry or not, for most of people Thor will always be Odinson, not some random girl with cancer.

Turns out what draws people to shared universe comics is nostalgia and characters they remember fondly.

And not just the concept in and of itself, who would have guessed.

New52 was a completely different thing than rebirth

>Pandering to emotional children is OK because it's what they want

Why do people on this board hate the notion of comics developing, Sup Forums?

That is irrelevant to the feelings of the Fans at the time it launched.

Sup Forums WAS ECSTATIC ABOUT it for those first 3 months.

Cos marvels got balls.

Seriously rebirth is one big safe pussy play.

Was it? I remember that people were either pissed of, or very cautious, not to mention that new52 rather quickly became synonymous with "bad quality". With Rebirth, the opposite is happening

What is amazing, is that Adventure comics sells really good, despite not being a #1, and having a huge number on the cover

The people who were more pissed off at it were those Comics Alliance roundtables of the first month of it that I remember people tearing apart trying to defend almost all the books of that launch

At least for a month or two, and then the stories started coming out about it and art teams changed.

Go and check out the demographics of the current comic book readership. Most of them are between 25-40, people who have been raised during the golden age of comic books, and to whom those characters are part of their childhood. Developing the characters and the comics are good, but trying to replace them, because of political reasons is stupid.

Marvel has black hairy balls.

Let's see how many readers will be attracted to them. I can see Solo, Moon Girl, Foolkiller and Slapstick beating the literally whos like Batman, Green Lantern, Superman...

new52 was very controversial. rebirth is not

It's not wise to try to bite the hand that feeds you. Because at some point it will slap you in the face.

Probably because you don't like capes

>DC is terrified of publishing a comic about anyone other than the Justice League or Batfam
kek

DC doesn't have Disney's billions to back them up to do so.

>forcing shitty books about d-listers that no one cares about
wew lad, that's some sneaky damage control

There is literally nothing wrong about publishing comics that will sell. It's a business after all

I wish I had been there to see people defending red hood and the outlaws #1

It was called DC you, and now it's called Young Animal.
The difference is who knew what difficult to sell are those comic...

>Sup Forums WAS ECSTATIC ABOUT it for those first 3 months.

Cool revisionist history brah.

>25-40 year olds
>Raised during the 30s to the 50s
U wot

Your being a casual doesn't really change anything.

Surprisingly enough, I wasn't suggesting there was something morally unacceptable about the practice, I was saying it's cheap pandering to an emotionally stunted base of increasingly irrelevant comics fans that DC has tried to placate on their revamp carousal just like New52 and DCYou.

Since when pandering is wrong?
Aren't you the guy that usually trolls Sup Forums with
>it isn't pandering to me
>therefore it's bad
meme?

I.I.its okay boss. I don't need anything but superman and batman comics. Well sure I kinda liked blue beetle and the question and captain atom but...yeah more flash and wonder woman are good too. Nice and safe and popular is how we like it here at dc. Maybe you guys will just add yet another batman comic on there. That'll show em.

The modern golden age, not the Gold Age. The golden age of comics between the 80's and the beginning of 2000's. The current comic book readership has been raised reading those books.

All you need to do is read any Frank Cho thread and replace all the nouns

>Your being a casual doesn't really change anything.
Lel, I didn't know that we had a dedicated marveldrone here.

Tell me, oh the sage, why would I want to read shit like karnak or ultimates?

>So it worked for a month

It will probably work next month and the month after since DC has a shit load of 1's coming out and Marvel's got nothing

Everyone knows pandering is only bad when marvel does it to non white men.

As long as it's beating marvel to a pulp with the sales, I'm okay with it.

If nice and safe brings money to DC, then why not. As has been already stated, this is business afterall.

Oh fuck you. The decades of comics a generation is nostalgic about is not a golden age. There's one golden age. And the 80s through 00 ain't fucking it

which makes sense, because non white men don't buy comics

>Cos marvels got balls.

DC is doing Young animal and the Hanna Barbera comics, not to mention the Apollo &Midnighter mini, Dogweldermini and Adam Strange and Hawkman mini. Oh wait there's also He-man/Thundercats coming out.

Eat shit

but, That isn't pandering it is correcting decades of a systemic inequality.

>I was saying it's cheap pandering to an emotionally stunted base of increasingly irrelevant comics fans

You mean the only people who buy comics? Those "irrelevant" fans?

This is based on what?

I didn't know that marvelfags were so butthurt that they would pick at straws.

I mean really? After so many people pissed off at Captain Hail Hydraman? After week of threads about how awful the new black Iron Man is going to be?

Who here doesn't want back to basic Spider-Man, Avengers, or X-Men?

No but I think the earlier user is right that from the writers to artists to fans the 80s Forward is where a primary amount of material is being drawn from currently.

That post being a joke, and clearly a pretty good one.

because the money that they get from welfare is limited, they can either buy a 5 dollar comic book, or a booze. Geez, choices...

A rock star riding 90s vertigo coat tails and a bunch of nostalgia candy.

Mmm hmm sure is daring. Dc should stand for daring comics.

Yeah, because gender / race swapping is sooooo original

Oh I see. You're just b8ing

It's because of reprints. BC was counting EVERY comic published, including the low-ordered and cheap Timely Comics reprints and various second/third printings to get a total of 112 Marvel books shipped. Traditionally they have more second and third printings as well; Gwenpool and Spider-Man/Deadpool seem to get a new one every month. (SM/DP #1 still charted in June, almost 8k, 6th printing I think) DC had a few reprints as well, but not nearly as many to bring their totals down; most of their reprints they've announced came out in July. The Timely Comics being only $3 for 3 issues didn't help either, as only one of them cracked 14k (ANAD Avengers; though surprisingly the Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur collection wasn't far behind.

That said, Marvel still put out a lot of new books. Counting the handful of Disney and Icon books released would bring the total to 92 I think, give or take one.

Daring comics huh? Wasn't the Nu52 an attempt to try something new? Hasn't been rejected and badmouthed after a couple of months?

Coming from All-New All-Now Marvel Now:
Female Black Dr Strange!
make mine marlel

Who's talking about originality? Is this a word swapping game where you take something I said and change one word to another so you can write a compleyely unrelated responce?

You asshole, you spoiled the relaunch we planned for the next year

Is english your first language?

It was something new. Dc rebooted their whole universe and basically started from scratch to fix their horrendously muddled continuity. I was blown away because it was such a unique new thing nobody (espescially dc) had ever done before.

Why did this article end by saying Marvel beat DC in marketshare for their September New 52 launch? Because they didn't

Yeah, and they had The Flash responsible for New52. Completely didn't see that coming

And yet has been badmouthed continously, because not "muh Superman", not "muh Wally" etc.

I think it was a sarcasm user, unless you're too young to know what was crisis of infinite earths

So half of you are Exactly. Dc couldn't create anything of quality so now its throwing nostalgia at its manbabbie readership.

I never said it was a dumb idea. Only that it was a big safe pussy play. Which most of you agree it is so why you arguing with me?

It takes courage for a corporate company to admit that they dun goofed and that they should stick to what they do best, and what they know best, instead of throwing crap around and see what sticks. It's something that marvel fails to grasp, which is why they are losing the readership every year since avx

DC tried since the beginning of new 52 with animal man, swamp thing, captain atom, firestorm, mr terrific, savage hawkman, batwing, gotham acadeny, gotham by midnight, talon, larflezee, blue beetle, hawk and dove, legion lost, static shock, ravagers, all star western, blackhawks, deathstroke, gi combat, grifter, infinity man and FP, men of war, omac, secret six, star spangled war stories, stormwatch, team 7, green team, the movement, thershold, vodoo, demon knights, dial h, frankestein, I vampire, klarion, resurrection man, sword of sorcery, trinity of sin, pandora, phantom stranger, etc.

Some where shit but some were good and people still spit on them for not being A listers.

Yeah...it takes courage to shrink back from a failure and give up taking chances. Just keep your head down and stick to what you know like in braveheart.

My dear drone, if for DC nostalgia works and brings them some money, then why you accuse them for doing so. It's the same nostalgia which brougt billions to Disney/Marvel through the MCU and the Star Wars. And don't tell me that didn't work so, because when DC/Warner tried to present a different version of the DC cape characters have been crucified.

It seems like a smart move. If your readership shrinks, it's suicidal trying to be "daring" for the sake of it. Only a complete fool would risk, if there is nothing to gain, and everything to lose. You can diversify, when you have a huge enough loyal audience that is willing to support the books.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but how well books like Red Wolf were received? Or Weirdworld?

Don't bother, it's marveldrones trying to compensate for the fact that their company sucks

Yeah, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

>He-man/Thundercats coming out

WHAAAAAT!!!!

Yes a mini series/crossover was announced a couple of weeks ago. 1st issue will come October 5.
cosmicbooknews.com/content/he-man-thundercats-crossover-announced-dc-comics

>1st issue will come October 5.
Same case for Midnighter & Apollo, Hawkman & Adam Strange, and Deadman minis.

>Deadman minis
elaborate?
Didn't have time to check some of the announcements

...

thanks, I'm lazy

Faggots like this that literally want comic companies to ignore their fanbases and produce crap no one buys are just like idiots on Sup Forums who think Nintendo needs to make another Gamecube and a sequel to Wind Waker. There's a reason why they're living in their mom's basement and not running companies.

The art is MINDBLOWING. Look up the preview pages that have been released.

Going by the top ten, the fanbases want events, Star Wars, and other dumb comics.

Yes, please stop trying to attract new readers, Marvel and DC.

Yeah Nintendo pandering to nostalgia babies would surely be a financial disaster

Marvel and DC sales are higher than they have been in years. Just look at the top 10 for September 2010 a year before New 52. Only 1 book broke over 100,000 and Batman was doing 70k

Faggots like you are literally and proudly holding back creativity.
It is pretty disgusting.

Sup Forums is the master of revisionisthistory
>The shitstorm were totally the horsefuckers fault guys I swear.

Have you fucking looked at the upcoming solicits
There publishing a fucking romance miniseries

Hell not only that a horror romance comic do you know what the CCA did to those genres.

What new readers? There are not anymore. The younger generations appreciate more Spongebob and videogames than comics. Or you think that the political driven crap that is being pubblished lately is targeting younger fans?

Great, but can DC maintain it, because they sure as hell couldn't with the New 52.

>believing it's 90s kids that're making Pokemon Go a phenomenon and not the fact that a Pokemon game is on an iPhone

But DC is actually putting out quality comics. Comic buyers usually favor shit but it looks like they're finally wising up.

>Sup Forums celebrates their favorite comic book companies recent event inflated success

This thread is going places.