As someone who wants to become Japanese, I can't master this shit...
3 writing systems...
Hiragana&Katakana is the easy part.
Kanji has many readings. On yomi (Chinese borrowing sounds) Different words were borrowed from different time periods so one Kanji can have many readings... Wu region pronunciation 呉音 明ミョウ Han Dynasty pronunciation 漢音 明メイ Ming Dynasty pronunciation 唐音 明ミン
All for the SAME kanji!!!
Kun yomi (native Japanese readings) ・訓読み 明あ-かり
Mix sino-and native reading together -樹箱(ジュばこ) Applying a non-related reading to a kanji for emphasis 義訓 寒(ふゆ) Adding a random native Japanese reding based on meaning of characters. 熟字訓 大和(やまと)
very unfortunately, it's almost impossible to master for non-native speakers
you should be very proud if you did it
Jaxon Evans
>Fuck This Language all the things that you mentioned are related to the writing system, none of them to the language itself
Leo Wood
>expecting a Burger to be able to learn another language when they can't even learn their own
Jonathan Lewis
Rule of thumb. Stand alone or when used in verbs kanji are usually kun, compounds are usually on yomi. On yomi is usually also shou, sho, chou cho chu chuu shu shuu myou ie, long sounding hiragana combos. Do the core 6k deck, read tae kim grammer guide and read through /djt/s reading list. The hardest part of the writing is katakana words that are supposed to be borrowed from English sounding way different and splet strangely to an English native, the honorifics and casual slang in my opinion. visit /djt/ amd remember you cannot learn japanese
Adam Peterson
Japenese is overrated. You better learn german.
> Your dear totally not based german
Jose Perry
it's pretty doable if you start when you're around 10~13
unfortunately most people start when they're old and decrepit
Luke Evans
I grew up here so I'm fluent in speaking.
But I went back to the States for middle school and I have horrible writing and kanji skills
Luis Russell
It's impossible to learn a second language proficiently as an adult unless you have autism. Language learning courses are just a scam.
Isaiah Miller
Just do the core 6k deck then. 20 new cards per day everyday for around 9ish months and you'll be great.
Aiden Barnes
> As someone who wants to become Japanese
Asher Gomez
You don't need proficiency, maybe in a second well used language but as a hobby no and any language 2+ you will be diversifying your knowlege so proficiency is an urealistic goal past two languages, it is very possible with 2 though
Mason Thomas
if you can already speak the language, just read a few dozen books (ideally 60 to 100 novels in various genres) and then spend a couple of months doing writing exercises
Bentley Williams
I don't believe you
John Thomas
What kind of dumb bullshit is that
Korean teacher is a sinologue so he knows Chinese regular and traditional as well as Korean, he used to teach Chinese to Korean students, this while his mother tongue is French and I believe that he is fluent in English too since that's the norm for any PHD graduate, and a sinologue's focus is more general than just language learning and translation, while it's a big chunk of the work, the main focus of his formation was Chinese civilisation and culture as a whole. While it's impressive and above average, it's not something spectacular so I don't understand why it would be impossible.
Parker Cooper
えぇ…お前は統合失調症患者なのか?
Chase Murphy
It's nice living in a country with such a high barrier for entry
Landon Campbell
serves you right for being a virgin weeb nonce
Justin Mitchell
>kanji is hard
Blake Young
i dont get it
are you supposed to be telling me that people get run over in china like its something special?
Isaac Phillips
you virgin soy weebo are
Caleb Myers
my dick is hard
Dominic Hall
ほも。
Juan Gomez
WTFFFFFFF REPORTED
Hudson Butler
What are they doing with hanja education in Korea now?
Hudson Lee
Don't ask me, I'm not from Korea.
Levi Ward
I thought the Wu pronunciation was from the Wu dynasty during the three kingdom? Although that's the same area
Eli Rivera
>漢字は難しい Can people stop repeating this meme, when kanji is like the easiest part of japanese.
Owen Robinson
>memorising tens of thousands of little gook scribbles is easy
No
Jaxson Hughes
>tens of thousands >nip kids learn about 2000 you're bringing this on yourself
Levi Garcia
You need to know about ten thousand to read the paper m8
Matthew Barnes
pick a simpler paper
Jack Cooper
That's for Chinese.
Grayson Peterson
>As someone who wants to become Japanese
lmfao what? are you literally retarded? you can't ''become'' japanese you can only obtain japanese citizenship and even that is quite an ordeal
fuck off retard
William White
Then why are black people in France called ''French people". Is this a double standard?
Liam Hughes
そうです。お前はバカ外人です。
Henry Fisher
Look buddy, you might become a Japanese national (though I highly doubt it), but you'll never become Japanese nor will anyone ever accept you as such. You will always be a foreigner and a westerner no matter how well you can speak the language and adopt their customs. You will always be an outsider. Don't pretend that you can suddenly be Japanese all of a sudden.
Jordan Phillips
>hai >daijoubu That's all you need to know to survive.
Jordan Cook
Then should white people consider minorities the same way? Sounds like you're saying it should be so.
Sebastian Stewart
its a sham black "french" don't actually identify as french, at home or in their own communities they are senegalese, ivorian, cameroonian, guadeoupean etc etc. they call themselves "french" when dealing with french people and when it comes to politics simply because it benefits them and gives them access to the some of the privileges of being a native. french people go along with it so not to be racist, some of the political class push it as gospel because dilution of french identity is in their interest, but everyone involved knows deep down that its bullshit. its the same across western europe.
Jonathan Torres
Yeah I already know all that, I was simply trying to get 's liberal brain to go haywire through the cognitive dossonance hoops he would have to jump through in order to justify his opinion.
William Wright
Yes, you are.
Kevin Ramirez
It's from a couple centuries before Han
Heavily connected to Buddhism
Liam Lewis
but hes agreeing with you, hes saying you cant become an ethnicity. isn't that your point?
Kevin Bell
No, he was saying that about Japan because he's a weeaboo, but is fine with the multicultural model the West has adopted. Why promote Japanese cultural homogeneity but not Western countries' homogeneity?
Juan Thompson
>is fine with the multicultural model the West has adopted where does he imply that
Luke Hill
If I only memorize kanji, I do it somehow
Aiden Rivera
Does Hanja have all those wierd exceptions Japanese have?
Hudson Wilson
>Does Hanja have all those wierd exceptions Japanese have?
you mean 音読 or 訓読, right?
Adrian Cruz
will ever attain mastery over 5 different languages in my lifetime?
Isaac Scott
Like mutiple On yomi readings
Multiple ways characters combine to give unorthodox Kun yomi
Matthew Williams
The language I speak has used a dozen writing systems.
However, 1 or 2 are used at a time and stuck with, and some are obsolete.
Austin Gray
For hanja, only on'yomi
For example, 人 間 ( sa-ram ) [ in ] ( sa-i ) [ gan ]
When speaking this Hanja, I read in []
'in-gan', like this
() Is a Korean native language, meaning
Oliver Russell
t. brainlet
Thomas Ramirez
pfft japanese is easy you can be shitposting on netto-keijibans with the best of em in like 18 months tops if you really try
Are you sure that you NEED to know all this? I mean, you're not a 日本語 teacher or a philologist, you don't need so much just for regular life
Hudson Hall
You need to know the different readings to read Japanese.
If you read 大和 as ダイワyou're off
Julian Thompson
>As someone who wants to become Japanese
Gavin Murphy
you just have to learn every compound term separately, it's not that hard you fucking brainlet :)
Parker Gray
We dont use it Some might learn it
Jacob Young
超原始的の定義とは…?
Grayson Fisher
I know, but isn't it more convenient to learn readings with words? I started 4 months ago and for me this is the easiest way. Learning every kanji with readings by itself is a pure masochism
Eli Kelly
Japanese language = Japanese advanced brammer(every language)