Lets start with Tigra from Marvel comics. my suggestion for a nemesis? Kraven the Hunter.
Tigra is something of a feminist while Kraven is an old-timey mysoginis
Tigra integrates into the environment while Kraven only seeks to dominate the environment
they could have a sexy Batman/Catwoman thing go on
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You again?
I feel like it's just too on the nose. We get it, she's a big cat.
I really don't think characters deserve a nemesis until they get their own book.
Miles needs a nemesis (maybe it would be more interesting to read). Maybe give him and Bombshell an Batman-Catwoman/Spidey-BlackCat flirtatious rivalry kind of thing.
I posted this like, 5 months ago.
isn't Miles's Nemesis da police?
>awkward teen Miles debating over whether Bombshell likes him or not but then realizing she's technically a supervillain so he has to worry about whether it's moral to have this kind of thing with her
>asks Peter for help
>it's useless
yes, I'd like more of this please instead of clickbait events and "this is totally gonna be permanent" character changes
No, you posted it like a few weeks.....jesus christ it was March?
I'm not saying "GET OUT", I'm not telling you you're here to much (Lord knows I'm in no position to talk) but times like this I think it's good to take a little break from the site, get your bearings. Just say'n.
No I didn't think you were telling me to leave, and yeah I really need to get out of here.
Fucking March?
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Who is this?
What about this cheerful chap
Mr X would be the obvious choice, maybe gorgon. if ya don't know, he's a blood knight martial artist from Marvel with telepathy that lets him see his opponent's next move
Coat of Arms.
Miles' nemesis should be the tumblr girl.
I don't know how but it would work but I want it to happen.
Would be interesting to see a proper supervillain nemesis for Deadman.
She should obviously be his JJJ, disgruntled he's not doing enough to help other minority and female causes.
obsessed stalker with a crush who gets on trouble but miles fails to save her and as a result she hates him?
Nah. Karnak's whole thing is being able to see the flaws in something. I suppose they both work in terms of pre-empting the flaws, but it'd be more fitting for him to have a nemesis with no flaws/with a flawlessly indestructible body.
I think you have a good idea OP. Feels kind of Silver Age.
People like you are the reason comics aren't fun anymore.
What about somebody with a healing factor or something like doomsday where they would fix the flaw after he hits it.
>Squueeeee
Too 'quirky' for me
Capes are art and kino and patrician and you and your little girl fanfics and shipping are dumb.
Now excuse me while I sculpt the death of Captain Marvel out of dog food.
I vote for this chick.
Alive man, ghost turned human
Something close to this.
He saves her from something and she's freaking out. Repeatedly calling him the Black Spiderman and going on and on about how great it is he's black. He stops her, and politely explains it's not about him being black and would she be any less grateful if it was white hero that saved her life. He implies that what she says is just the opposite side of the same racist coin that the people that bitch about him being black. That they both focus on his race instead of the good he's trying to do.
BOOM! she fucking explodes. And goes on this huge internet tirade against him. And starts spouting about internalized racism and how wrong she was about him. Everything he does becomes politically charged, he saves more whites than minorities, he saves more men than women...or women than men because they're to weak to look after themselves, look how uncomfortable he looks when this tranny thanks him with a hug.
He had some good rumbles with the Gentleman Ghost in Brave and the Bold.
I'd kind of love Blogger Girl to turn into Miles's JJJ.
but a silverage comic would be more likely to have a villain that was it's own wacky thing, not so obvious.
>I am going to ram that she-cat!
Titles for porn?
I think borrowing one of Spidey's villains is a bad idea, though Tigra fighting a twisted big game hunter themed villain could be cool.
Never saw Brave and the Bold, I'll look it up.
I think it's fine to use him for that but the premise works better for a one off or occasional thing. Making him her nemesis is kinda lame.
>And playtime was just beginning
Was this claremont?
>Kamala Enemy
>Not Big Pig Guy
Venom's nemesis: Whatever agencies were mind-raping it with drugs (so nemesi? I don't think it's been just one at this point)
Miles' nemesis: Uncle Rufus. I don't know how the copyright issues would work, but make it happen. Miles' greatest enemy is a racist black man who will use Miles' use of force as proof of Miles' savage ways
Carnage-man's nemsis: Public perception. Carnage-man tried not to be hardcore, but the universe won't let him.
Kaine's nemesis: Whoever's bullying Aracely
Ben's nemesis: being dead
Peter's nemesis: Kingpin (I know Green Goblin has more in-comic history with Parker, but the 90's show has convinced me that Kingpin is the best Archnemesis. I loved Spectacular but even it couldn't make that notion budge)
If Janet van Dyne were to ever get a solo I've always thought that with some reworking and maybe a new codename the villainous Spider-Woman, Charlotte Witter, would make a decent enemy for her.
They're both fashion designers and they've got the whole Spiders vs Wasps thing going for them. And its not like the Spider-Man books have used her at all in the last 15 years
Sometimes I feel like no one on Sup Forums actually reads comics. Chris Claremont already thought of this. Marvel Team Up 67.
I agree about limiting it, but I think the narrative practically writes it's self. I never really understood a crazy big game hunter being a Spidey specific villain.
I mostly read his mutant stuff.
What is it with Spidey and redheads
Also, why's her hair black there?
Me too. But I got a cheap Essential Marvel Team-up trade a few years ago that had #67 in it. I was surprised no one had referenced it when I looked through the thread.
If you want an easy self contained adventure story, Marvel team up is dope.
Kingpin belongs to my husbando Matt
Yeah, I think OP is talking more about long term narrative rather than a one-off, though.
No Idea. The Essential trades are all black and white so I had never seen the actual cover before.
I don't think it changes in story.
Let's be fair here, there's a big difference between "no one here reads comics" and "no one here has read this one issue of a team-up book from 1978".
That issue is probably 15-20 years older than the average Sup Forumsmrade.
She should be his Black Cat/MJ
>Tigra is something of a feminist while Kraven is an old-timey mysoginis
Tigra integrates into the environment while Kraven only seeks to dominate the environment
they could have a sexy Batman/Catwoman thing go on
I get long term but this is a dead on description of what plays out in Marvel Team up #67.
They get into this weird domination thing with Kraven trying to control Tigra and her fighting against his domination. It's filled with innuendo.
Warrior priestess from a cult of demonslaying amazons that she her as the champion sent here to challenge her faith in God.
A play on Wonder Woman vs Cheetah
Because he wanted the best hunt.
Narratively he's both too on the nose and too off the mark.
A big game hunter hunting a Tiger lady is beyond predictable but he lacks any history with her nor does he share motive/personality/anything that interestingly compliments Tigra's motives or personality. Being a Hunter is all he really brings to Tigra. Frankly it's all he really brings to Spidey until he got all Psychostalker on him.
Totally agree. But I get to give shit to people on the Internet because for once I actually read something that no one has mentioned.
Does Carol Danvers have a nemesis?
The Kree as a whole?
Mystique?
Moonstone?
Tony Stark
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Yeah, the fact that she totally sucks as a character.
I'm Ms. Marvel, no I'm Binary, no I'm Warbird, no I'm Captain Marvel. Also a rape victim and alcoholic because no one knows what to do with me because I'm bland as fuck.
Out of curiousity, what came first, the 90's show of Kingpin migrating to be more prominent in Daredevils' books?
I'd imagine that Kingpin would be pretty big in most NY street-level heroes' books
The brood are pretty tied to her too. She destroyed their entire world and they hate her more than the x men
Actually I just realized what the real problem is you can't force an arch nemesis. There's not really anything that makes for an automatically good enemy they just have to work well together in well written stories and that history builds the characters. If you just keep trying to force a villain as an archenemy when nobody really likes them and they don't work well together, you just have a shitty story.
Tigra should get back with pym. Then make jocasta her nemesis and on and off lover
Her writers.
Ant man is doing it and very aware of it. Issue 3 he calls taskmaster his arch nemesis and tasky just laughs at him. Pretty great stuff
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But Kraven could hunt anyone. I'm not saying Spidey isn't worthy prey, just that Spidey strikes me as being only one of many many potential trophies, and having him obsess over Spidey always struck me as odd.
Because Spidey put him to shame and it stewed in him.
Don't we have enough female heroes? When are you SJW's going to stop?
Nico Minoru arches?
Well, aside from her parents, Alex "What idiot decided he should be brought back to life" Wilder, and Katy "Waste of Ink" Bashir, and Daimon "Wait, people thought they were fucking?!" Hellstrom (god she's had some shit), I can think of a few.
Sylvie Lushton, the second Enchantress, could be a good one. One is a wannabe villainess, while the other is a rebellious heroine. They are a good study in contrasts.
Similarly, a "Rigid Formula" Spellcaster would be a good counter for her freeform chaos. Someone who uses a book to counter her staff. I got nothing beyond the general idea.
Having already had the 'evil mentor' botched, she needs adversaries that challenge her creatively and on the authority level.
So, a villain that represents the numbing of ideas and homogeneity . . .
And SHIELD. She needs a SHIELD agent who gets a vendetta against her and the Runaways that tries to hunt them down. Like Agent John Garret. He'd be a good foe.
Tigra could totally use a rogue's gallery
It could have a fox-girl, a mud-girl, a caulk-girl for those misleading white stains, a girl who becomes invisible whenever she puts on a shit, a rope-manipulator, a whip-expert, a hyrdo-girl, and a misogynist guy who wants to roboticize the male half of humanity to remove their lust and thus doom women
Good writing? Because no one who's touched her since BKV has managed to do anything decent with her.
A-Force is about as bad as Arena
The innocuous team up book is as bad as the character wood-chipper book? The fuck are you on?
And where can I get some?
Wait, so . . . Tigra vs. Monster Musume?
>Pathetically desperate for contact with extended family in Japan
>Treated as a genie by bitchy adults like Medusa and Carol Danvers
>Doesn't stand up for herself at all against any of these assholes
>Mind controlled again
>Ugly art
But with more caulk jokes
Secret wars a force was great. The new stuff not as much but I'm still reading
I feel that she should inherit Mystique, Since Carol inherited Yon-Rogg.
"I'm a teenage girl living on my own with two surrogate daugthters to support and several others hangers on, maybe making nice with my extended family that isn't evil will help give me some means of supporting them" - Simple No Prize. Did you even try?
Nico treat like a child by adults who don't know better? Color me shocked! I mean, if she wasn't sassing them constantly, you might have a point. But she does, she even points out how much they leaned on her in the first arc, and this second one is all about how scarily powerful she is.
Is there a need to stand up against them when she doesn't disagree with what they are asking of her overtly (That's for Civil War II)?
This is Nico's first bout of Mind Control the fuck are you on about? Even better, she's fighting it throughout and that's a plot point! In fact, in the preview for the next issue, she fights back hard enough to cast a counter-spell to save her whole team.
And the art? I like it. But that's my opinion and I recognize it as such.
Janet has Whirlwind.
What happened to Kimura?
But Razorback is a hero.
Isn't that more of a joke? I mean, it was in A:EMH.
She showed up in All New Wolveirne #6 with a Master Plan being set in motion! She's totally Laura's arch.
What said.
Bitch killed her fiancee just to send a message. Then removed all emotional attachment from her memories of him to add insult to injury.
And then in the annual Hank brings up how Egghead was his archenemy and Scott laugh at him in turn.
51% of the American population are female.
oh shit, thats Madame Menace. she appeared in a few issues of Machine Man and is a mrtial arts expert/tech industrialist
And the portion of Female supers to male at Marvel (and other places) is . . . Pretty bad.
I ran some numbers. I scowered every multimedia appearance of Many Heroes at Once (mostly games at this point, I'd add Cartoons and the like when I have no life again), covering the last 15 years (and the classic Marvel RPG) and I found that . . .
They got out 600 super-female characters to about 1450 male super types.
To get how bad it is, to get close to balancing it, you'd have to include every female supercharacter that managed to get a Comicvine entry in order to get close to matching the number of male characters who have at least one multimedia appearance (and even then, it's only about 1400).
So yeah . . . Population balance.
>her and her nemesis constantly call each others' outfits tacky and give passive agressive constructive criticism
Shit, I'd read that
OP here, I know that. I also know thats not the first time they fought, which was Marvel Chillers $4. But 3 encounters (the last one being somewhat OOC for Tigra), do not an archenemyship make
She hasn't mentioned said two dependents or any of her friends, didn't even try to invite them to the wedding, hasn't made any efforts to contact them since joining this team
Sassing them is not enough. Nico is bullheaded, has control issues and is suspicious of adults, she has gotten into a ton of fights against superheroes like Spider-Man, the X-men, the Avengers, and a bunch of other established authority figures because she doesn't inherently trust them. Towing the line and obeying the Queen of the Inhumans and the "boss of space" just because they tell her to do something is not something she would do.
Fine not exactly mind control but being influenced by dark magics that influence her behaviour. The Witchbreaker tortured her, changing her personality to the point where she cast cruel life ruining spells (which according to that same preview you just cited apparently aren't permanent so the spell on Geoff Wilder or the Yorkes wore off?). That time she lost her arm and life and brought herself back with blood magic almost mindless and relentlessly pursued Apex and tried to kill an innocent victim like Death Locket. Or when she was influenced by Daimon Hellstrom and fought in mindless rages in cagematches
motherfucker fought daredevil quite a few times and Ka-Zar like, 5 times. he's not really Spidery-specific, per se
Thor's fought Magneto.
Kraven's Spidey-specific.
as an enemy for Tigra, to be clear?
Scott is such a loser even compared to pym. If he laughs at someone you brush it off cause even z list villains are cooler than him. i love it
>She showed up in All New Wolveirne #6 with a Master Plan being set in motion!
He's an enemy but I wouldn't call him an arch-nemesis
He's too much of a joke
On the one hand I like that she's like a female Luke Cage who can't be cut by Laura's claws making her a tough enemy
On the other hand she's kinda boring
Molestation is no joke.
Another reason the secret wars version of a force was better. Nico was constantly rebelling against she hulk
This guy's nemesis?