>Bought the compilation book yesterday >Read through whole thing today >Gets heavy Red Dawn vibes from this. >Canadian glorification
I must say, I don't know what I was expecting but I must say, I probably shouldn't be surprised at what I got. Though I must say, I find it hard to imagine the idea of calling the ending a "victory" for the rebellion.
They basically poisoned the last clean source of water in North America nad its clear things are going bad to worse for both countries so I'd call it more a Pyrrhic victory than anything considering the sheer amount of loss.
If anything though the book reminds me why I'm not a patriot anymore.
It's not meant to be patriotic or a victory for either side. It's meant to show that war fucking sucks.
Samuel Lopez
Yeah, but they celebrated it like its a victory. The rebels willing chose to and attacked on a volatile place. War does fucking suck, but it also shows how utterly incompetent the "heroes" were.
Noah Brooks
not so long ago I read the 6th and final issue after reading the first five months ago.
eh, it felt rushed. I think this was supposed to be an ongoing...
Liam Ortiz
I've never read this but I'm assuming it's the worst thing BKV's ever written?
Juan Morris
So would you say that you must say?
Ayden Williams
America gets attacked by someone and invades Canada in retaliation. It's (ambigiously) revealed that canada started that shit for some reason in the final issue. We see american forces use what are basically mildly modified zoids to attack canadian forces, bizarre use of VR technology to torture one of the rebels into revealing the location of her team mates and crap like that. Oh and the big evil torturer reveals she was originally a canadian citizen.
Apparently this war is about there being no unpolluted sources of fresh water in north america? (Never mind that it's a lot simpler and easier to just build a lot of desalination plants on the coast and ship that water inland)
It's not very clear. It's a very blunt, almost obnoxious antiwar comic. OP was right when he called it red-dawn with canada but the protagonists are such an incompetent bunch of fuck wads you're more likely to feel contempt for them than anything else.
They 'win' by poisoning the last resevoir of potable water on the north american continent by fighting the whole american fleet of war tankers (yes lets put guns on giant round tanker ships that look suspiciously like battletech dropships) causing one of the ships to fall onto a deposit of carcinogens that then poisons that reserve of water causing the US forces to write off canada as a loss.
This is victory apparently.
Thomas Jones
Hey Superman was Canadian, maple syrup, the Quebecois only speaks French but understands English, lumberjacks, etc.
Being Canadian I was extremely off put by the sheer amount of "CANADA FUCK YEAH!" in this comic. Canada has an inferiority complex, it's natural we are neighbors to the greatest super power in the history of mankind. But this fucking comic was so clearly written by an American, but using the stereotypes we say about ourselves as opposed to what everyone else thinks.
I dunno, I didn't like it BKV tends to start strong and slide to mediocrity. This started weak and slid into the toilet.
Thanks for reading. Here's a picture of a house hippo for your troubles.
Angel Ortiz
Shuster was born in Canada but moved to America as a child and then...spent most of his life in america. So claiming superman was canadian is literally cultural appropiation which is just...
It's kind of pathetic when one of the ways you're trying to stroke your nationalist ego is to take an Icon invented by a couple jews that has now become something of a media cashcow and cultural symbol and then say 'no, that REALLY belongs to my country.'
Oh and that Quebecoi was fucking obnoxious. Do people tolerate that shit in Canada? I mean I've known a couple bilinguals who could be fairly obnoxious in my time but they always had the good courtesy to do it in the language everyone around them was speaking.
Xavier Wood
Jesus christ this thread. None of you know how to use spoilers?
Brayden Gonzalez
Canadian here and holy fuck was that comic terrible. I managed to suspend my disbelief until they introduced the Quebecois dude who couldn't speak decent english. Really a great example of why authors should at least visit the countries they write about.
Kayden Long
No one speaks a noticeable amount of French anywhere except Quebec and the occasional enclave in Manitoba and in the Maritimes. And in Montreal, the capital of Quebec, you can easily get by speaking English.
Also we don't have much of a nationalist ego, what little we do comes from how much we look down on America, fair or not.
Jason Murphy
So what you're saying is an american wrote a comic book sort of kind of leonizing Canada and tried to stroke the nationalist ego of canada by culturally appropiating superman.
Nevermind that it'd make more sense to call to mind Canada's role in WW2 and the walking wall tactics they used that terrified the germans and other crap like that if you feel like bringing up Canada has an actual claim to.
and hey, cultural chauvanism is nothing unusual.
Thomas Jones
I live in Detroit and cross over into Windsor from time to time. Yeah, basically ragging on America and coming to get better Doctors is the common denominator for Canadians.
Most of y'all are all right though. The worst are the Ex-pats from the 60's and 70's though who talk my ear off about free healthcare and then buying weed or seeing a American doctor.
Mason Davis
Honestly you ask the average Canadian about Superman and they won't know one way or the other his origin. Unless they're from my generation and remember that Canadian Moment thing.
And don't get us started about WW1 and 2 or the War of 1812. Did you know we marched down their and burned down the White House? Fuck I hear that every year on June 18..
That sounds pretty on point. But legal weed is around the corner up here so there is that.
Nathan Wilson
Why people still need to learn this? The kind of people that buy this Isn't suppused to already know it?
Jaxson Howard
We're saving you from wasting your time on trash, you should thank us.
Jaxson Cox
yeah we hear about the war of 1812 here occasionally. I vaguely recall it from social studies when I was in elementary school.
Kinda comes off as trying to needle the kid who sits across your desk about that one time you totally knocked his ass out in boxing when he's got a heavyweight championship title to his name now.
Mason Green
The legal weed is old hippies sticking it to the US. Those fucks are annoying
Benjamin Gomez
We learned about it in school where I live in the U.S., it was just presented as the British Empire pushing our shit in the war of 1812, and the Empire included Canada. Where the troops came from wasn't normally played up.
I think Americans have a fairly positive opinion of Canada and a pretty strongly positive impression of Canadians themselves because they're so rarely overtly rude. But we wouldn't want to live there anymore than you'd wanna live here, I bet.
Asher Wood
do a story time of it
William Russell
It's real fucking important up here, despite the fact it's been over 200 years. But that's Canada for you.
>But we wouldn't want to live there anymore than you'd wanna live here, I bet. >Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness is on the Declaration of Independence. >Peace, Order, and Good Government. Is on the Act of Union. I'd say you're pretty on point.
Benjamin White
That's part of 'war fucking sucks' too. It's about how when you brutalize a population during an Occupation, said population will support things that guerilla forces do they never would have supported before the Occupation.
A lot of Iraq WERE welcoming the American forces in the first days of the Invasion. Then they fucked up the Occupation so badly that they lost all that support. For instance.
Jace Thompson
Vaughan has never written a good ending to a comic in his life.
He starts off with a few characters and a strong premise. Then he elaborates on it through a few plotlines until he runs out of good ideas, and the comic turns into "character studies" where he flails around putting the characters through tough times to no particular end because the work has become completely divorced from its original theme.
Then, once he realizes that he can't keep doing that, he wraps everything up in an unsatisfying way all at once and makes sure it's an unhappy ending for his leads so he can tell himself it's deep and "doesn't just give the audience what they want" instead of just being a wet fart of a conclusion that shows the writer didn't have anything in mind beyond the first few arcs.
Bentley Turner
>greatest super power in the history of mankind
Debatable
Jordan Bailey
How is that even remotely debatable?
Anthony King
As an American I feel insulted by this comic, because we had such shitty robots. They had an opportunity to really go all out for military machines and what do we have?
Retarded AT-ATs.
Next time, the comic should be written by Canadians proper.
Aaron Ortiz
Relative power and influence. Dont get me wrong America is the most powerful country in history. But is it the most powerful when it comes to comparison with the other nations of the era? As well as the period of time it dominated the planet?
