How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #299

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Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
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>Invisible Ink:
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courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

I doodle up something.

Do you liek my comic?

I'm having trouble coming up with a long term goal for my protagonists. Any suggestions on how to come up with one?

what's the story?

been doing 1 comic a month for the past 4 months

comic in thumbnail: ic.pics.livejournal.com/aim8i/77297241/73250/73250_original.png

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You guys think that antagonists should look villainous? I'm doing character concepts and noticed that most of my antagonists look super non-threatening. I kinda like it, but what do you guys think of this character for instance? Does he look like he could be nasty if he wanted to?

Starting to ink. Really like how thug #1 and #2 came out, considering they were improvised.

also, is there a chance we can get a discord invite?

Your composition is strong. I think what you're drawing right now is a bit hard for an outsider to approach, but you're definitely making visually engaging pages.

They don't have to. Sauron would be a different villain if he just looked like a normal dude, but he wouldn't necessarily be worse.

Maybe not nasty in a physical cruelty way, but he looks like he'd definitely cancel a loan out of spite or to get his own way.

Anyone in life can be a villain, and your character here fits the "straight laced white guy with nastiness brewing underneath" archetype.

You can easily make him visually threatening in a moment with posture, expression and small details like disheveled hair.

I like your fat thug.

discord.gg/2DnBc
Get in here senpai

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Umm that guy looks SUPER threatening you shitlord, he's a fucking white male.

started coloring work on the new page.

Lower the resolution from 600 to 350 to see if I can speed it along.

I tend to make my antagonists looks very plane and in reality be very non-threatening compared to their minions.

That's bad.

What is a villanous look? Is it tied to 'physical' appearance or the presentation?

yeah, I know. It's honestly the result of me being a shitty artist

I think antagonists should look threatening or not threatening based on what sort of antagonist they are.

Freddy Krueger is threatening, and it suits him.

Hans Landa is non-threatening, and it suits him.

That there is a villain of the Landa sort.

Agreed.

Did anyone here get accepted into Hiveworks?

Nobody from /hyw/ got accepted into HW as far as I know. We only know 2 of the comics that got accepted so far, the rest of the creators aren't telling anybody until their comics show up on HW, but it seems HW wanted Tumblr shit this time.

The 2 best comics in /hyw/ didn't get accepted and they are both better than the 2 comics that everybody knows have been accepted, that tells you something about Hiveworks.

Which two comics got accepted?

Pfft, I don't need no hiveworks! I'll publish the comic myself and make my own deadlines! Just like Berserk and Hunter x Hunter!!

It was posted in the last thread but I'm on a phone right now so I can't look it up.

Oddity Woods and Goodbye to Halos. Both leagues better than anything here.

>Both leagues better than anything here
I disagree.

Your opinion doesn't matter.

Yeah, no.

Listen you can deny it all you want because you're butthurt that you got rejected.

But until you learn to tell the differences between good webcomics and bad, yours will always be bad.

Neither does yours, sport.

Yeah, they definitely had their eye on something specific. Both visually and thematically (that is... they seem most interested in digitally drawn fantaay comics.) Comics in their catalogue that are exceptions had large fanbases prior to joining anyways (e.g. SMBC, Prague Race.) I'm disappointed I didn't get accepted because I have a good product, but I don't fit within any of the above categories either. I can't think of a comic here that does.

Considering it's one shared with Hiveworks, yeah it kinda does.

Just because it's in a style you don't like doesn't mean it's bad.

I'm not the user you're replying to. I didn't even apply to that collective.

>implying anything in the known universe in any form of media whatsoever, not just comics, can possibly be better or even as good as West Tree Academy of Heroes

Then why the sour grapes?

What sour grapes? Is the opinion I replied to the only valid one?

>Yeah, they definitely had their eye on something specific

Yeah, professional quality work.

As opposed to anything here.

Shut the fuck up.

Let's take this outta the thread, broski.

Do you have Skype?

user, do you need help? Are your buttocks in pain so severe that only salty trolling can help?

Bootlick more, cuck. I'm sure you'll get pity sex from some landwhale if you keep defending Hivework, FOR FREE.

As much as the Miss Melee guy keeps saying not to drag his comic into the /hyw/ shitsorm I still maintain that MM is fucking leagues above Goodbye to Halos.

There's a few geuinely pro level folks who post or used to post here and to say there's not proves you're trolling. Here's your (You).

As do I - because it's true.

>being this buttblasted

Are you really so delusional too? That you think anything I've said is false?

Or do really just not like to hear it?

Is this place really that much of a hugbox? You really actually thought your shit don't stink?

Show me your comic.

Whatever happened to the guy with the comic about the frog knight on fantasy adventures? I loved that one.

I love this. Blog?

Show me yours.

Thirded. Most of the stuff here is mediocre at best and the real standout talent from the earlier threads aren't even around to say if their applied anymore, but holy shit Miss Melee getting snubbed is ludicrous and seeing Goodbye to Halos get posted in the last thread and knowing that got in instead was insanity.

It's irrelevant to the discussion. I never said it was professional quality, I never even said it was good. But show my yours, and I will tell you several reasons why it was rejected. Real reasons, not phony excuses like "tumblr" and "homosexuals."

Chochi's a busy man I guess. He was supposed to continue a porn comic earlier this year but it never happened.

Miss Melee is alright. It's well-drawn enough, the writing is decent, but nothing about it really makes it a head above other entries to the same genre. I'm not surprised it got rejected on those grounds... and this is not to say it's bad.

#Justice4MissMelee

>Real reasons, not phony excuses like "tumblr" and "homosexuals."
Turning a blind eye to what they're obviously wanting for their market demographic is just setting yourself up for disappointment, user.

The artwork needs polishing. Occasional massive perspective issues. The general layout is claustrophobic and confused.

The writing is boorish at best.

Compared to, what, published DC/Marvel/Vertigo comics? Because I've read a few of those - it's better than some of the ones I've seen published and on shelves.

A shame. Does the guy who was working on The Sisters still come by these parts? Or the guy who did that kind of John K-looking comic about the kind of pirate-looking girl? Has the person who was making Fjordson gotten back to work yet? I haven't been around for a few months and it feels like none of the comics that I followed in the threads are around anymore.

>Writing is boorish at best

Compared to fucking what? Modern cape comics? Don't make me post a smug anime girl at you, because you're off your fucking rocker if you don't think it's at least on par with anything being pushed on the shelves right now

#MissMeleeMatters

SpacePirate shows up here on occasion. The strip regularly updates on Mondays at greenknightcomic.com/
I suspect you might have a lot of catching up to do. Stick it in your RSS feed.

>Chochi
I think you have the wrong fantasy frog.

>Does the guy who was working on The Sisters still come by these parts?
Yes. Both writer and artist drop in.

>Or the guy who did that kind of John K-looking comic about the kind of pirate-looking girl?
Yes. Dustin has shown up here recently.

>Has the person who was making Fjordson gotten back to work yet?
No. ScandinavianPrincess hasn't been seen in this thread for a long time. Fjordson is on hiatus while they work on their portfolio for school.

Yes. The whole ironic superhero thing's been done a million times and better, and the lolsorandum jokes are just plain bad.

It's on par with modern capes, sure, but that's not exactly a high bar. And modern capes don't really intersect with the kind of work HW appears to have been seeking out.

So your issue isn't with anything you wrote - but instead is with the fact that it's a crowded genre and it doesn't appeal to you as much as other comics have. OK.

I don't get your point, though? If it's comparing with modern capes at the level it could be out on shelves right now, why are you not surprised it got rejected on those grounds? Are you saying HiveWorks demands a quality that surpasses what gets published and is on shelves -- because you're in for a rude awakening if you actually go through their catalogue. It's definitely not a hard rule for them.

>And modern capes don't really intersect with the kind of work HW appears to have been seeking out
It's been said before: if you have a big enough fanbase it doesn't matter whether your comic fits the image Hiveworks wants or not.

But if you have a fanbase that big you're not going to need to submit your comic to them, they'll seek you out and beg you to join.

I don't know why we would immediately compare it to something else. Does comparing it to mainstream cape comics make it better? As an independent comic, it's boring. Action-heavy and really lacks story in my opinion, and no matter how the other comics are like, my opinion still stays the same.

more trash.

even more trash.

I didn't realise making it on Hiveworks was so important to people here.

It's just Babby's First Rejection issues.

My point is >modern capes don't really intersect with the kind of work HW appears to have been seeking out.

Though I would argue that modern capes have a super low bar for entry, anyway... but that is for another thread. My real point is despite being a decent product, MM likely got rejected on the grounds of its genre more than its quality.

Agreed. Though MM doesn't appear to have that big enough fanbase quite yet. It is still at a point where it would have benefited from the partnership in my opinion.

It'll die down in a week, only to pick back up with butthurt and saltposting once the rest of the accepted comics are revealed later on.

Hiveworks? More like SHITworks if you ask me.

BOOM! Roasted!

Yeah, I come here on occasion. More often than not to just post the next update and maybe give a few blurbs of critique because these threads have been shittier than usual for about two weeks now.

I mean, I found it to be a fun read. But.
I'm working on a review of it for the Webcomic Police that should be going up in the next few days. Pretty much my thoughts after two issues of reading it. A lot of close shots, a lack of real backgrounds save for the interior of Jan's daughter's room; and it all seems to be so focused on the action that we lack a lot of reason to care about said action. While it doesn't need to be character driven, it does need to have character to it and the fact that the city in a superhero comic doesn't have any real identity visually, is a sin.

I've reworked it about six times because I don't want to sound like I'm taking a hatchet to it. Critique from a place without emotion and really just care about the raw stuff. MM can work because it flies through easily, but once you realize you've read two issues that feels more like two scenes, that's 44 pages without really getting to who anyone is or why. Modern Cape Comics do a lot of things wrong, but they try to make you care (and sometimes they do a terrible job) but it helps give you a sense of where you are in the world and why it matters to care about these characters. Right now we don't really have any reason to care about Janice being MM because there's no real risk to anything she does; she fights and wins.

As for MM not getting into Hiveworks, neither did the Sisters. HW clearly wanted a very specific aesthetic this time around and upon looking back at their catalog it is very easy to see that it has less to do about "talent per se" and more to do about fitting the visual/storytelling niche they want: which is something soft, inoffensive, and that appeals primarily to the teen demographic.

Its a bit of a morale hit, but things always bounce back.

>the visual/storytelling niche they want: which is something soft, inoffensive, and that appeals primarily to the teen demographic.

Yar, I saw that from their catalogue. That's how I knew that they wouldn't even give AfterDeath a care. It just isn't the place for it. Even though it might speak to teens (protagonist thrust into an unfamiliar world which demands they act responsibly and the hero goes on a journey of self-discovery on the road back to their seat of power), it's definitely aimed at adults.

And that really is the luxury of being an indie comic is that you can leave time to develop and give people what they want without being forced into the crunch of page limit.

I think MM can develop into a better product, just like everything else here, if given time to do so. I wouldn't say it is the best thing in the thread; primarily because it has so much room to improve. I sure as shit wouldn't claim my comic to be that either, simply by virtue of how many people like to shit on it; and because if I were that arrogant I'd probably dress nicer.

Everyone wants to feel important and like they're accepted; and being desired is a part of that certainly. We felt pretty good when pre-Dewd BluTrinity wanted the Sisters---and then we did some research and due diligence. Always feels nice to be wanted though.

An antagonist need not look villainous. Their actions just need to project the intent.

Yep, same thing here really. Such that it is.
Hiveworks would've been great, primarily because it'd just be last things we as creators had to take care of. But we're independents, and that means striking it out on our own and trying to make what we can of any given situation. But just because the potential gains would've been great doesn't mean it would've read well to the integrity of ones project. And anything they offered one can always do for oneself.

scares the shit outta me.

>having the same opinion as people whose decisions actually shape things means MY opinions shape things!
wouldn't it be nice if it worked that way? unfortunately, no

Wait, Spinerette is hosted on Hiveworks?
THE Spinerette?
One of the worst webcomics of all time Spinerette?

Fucking HOW?

Fanbase. Obviously.

blog? I don't have one because I don't have access to the internet

Here's page 2. pls rate

only because pepe kept bringing it up six times a thread

>44 pages
... really? could have sworn it was like 14

>it has less to do about talent per se

lol

>One of the worst webcomics of all time
people need to learn that how bad something is is not directly related to how much it pissed you off. because being good followed by bad pisses you off worse than anything

Just recounted, 40 pages not including any covers. It does flow well, and quickly; but we're two issues in and don't really have much reason for investment in anyone or the setting. Which isn't to say you cannot be invested simply by virtue of MM being the protagonist, but rather there aren't any stakes being put forward that really propel the story forward; even Janice being caught out superheroing by her family is easily on both occasions.

jesus.
honestly i think i have a major problem with the standard comic page format. not enough happens on each page. it's a TON of effort on the artist's part because the quality is usually bumped up, but it's almost impossible to enjoy one page at a time and that's what breaks the camelback to me

>ScandinavianPrincess hasn't been seen in this thread for a long time
I'm surprised she posted at all, considering the high level art.

I know you're trying to start shit, but more than just "talent" factors into it. From a pure talent/quality/design standpoint, The Sisters is as good as anything on Hiveworks proper: but aesthetically and thematically it's not something they're looking for, same with MM.

The only person who matches you for more undeserved ego is Bones.

I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I'm not whoever that is.

As someone who just reads comics, I'm attesting to the fact that The Sisters is a comic that's of high quality by any reasonable objective merit of composure or craft. There's a lot of complaints to be leveraged towards a lot of comics here and their general quality, but when you're dealing with a comic of that sort of caliber it really is just a matter of taste and aesthetic preference

More wips, is this too much?

Generally I want my comic to be a optimistic and bright outlook to it. Although one of the element is magical girls with PTSDs, I think it might take dealing with something like this to justify it. Although I don't know if its too jarring with the rest of the comic

I wonder how I can put blood curdling screams like ones from ME3
youtube.com/watch?v=1gL4XqkQOFU

How do I word it in onomatopoeia.

switching up the vowels a lot makes a scream look curdly to me.. a lot of aiaiaiaiaii in it

Thanks! Im hoping that when i eventually transition to long format + dialogue it will be easier to draw people in. As it is now I'm only confident in short narratives.