Tfw he ruined Kingdom of Heaven and Troy

>tfw he ruined Kingdom of Heaven and Troy

and katy perry.

and he helped destroy Port Royale by being retarded.

i don't blame him for Kingdom of Heaven i think at least half of it was because the character was badly written.

the narrative basically doesn't allow him to have a personality, he's just there, even in directors cut.

He has three or four character defining actions in nearly 4 hours of film.

Helping people on his land have water for farming.

Giving his horse water

and killing a priest.

his entire character motivation is atonement yet he doesn't seem remorseful, mostly he just seems bored.

Even when dealing with his dead wife. or temple mount.

ridley should have punched him in the face every time he gave the camera blankface.

How did he ruin Troy? He was supposed to play a weasel fuckboy and make everyone hate him, which is what he did.

>2001: Fellowship
>2002: Two Towers
>2003: Return of the King and PoC
>2004: Troy
>2005: Kingdom of Heaven
>2006: PoC2
>2007: PoC3

is this the GOAT historical/fantasy run?

He was causa belli

the film should have made him a background character only relevant at the actual seige and should have focuses on Baldwin and Saladin.

props to his manager

Actually, it was executive meddling that ruined Kingdom of Heaven.

How so?

I think with some rewriting his character could have been much more interesting. Killing a shit eating grin priest doesn't actually convey any negative traits to him. They wanted to start his journey off showing he had to work on himself but it doesn't work..the way they had michael play the role, he was almost cartoonishly evil in the way he hated bailin. That role and what he played in last twilight movie were remarkably similar.

It would have been better to tie together the first cut hour dealing with his family problems, he should have gotten into a fight with his brother/cousin and killed him, and then he fled etc. That way directors cut would make sense.

They needed to reinforce the family themes. if you keep reusing that throughout the movie which they did with sibilla. Her suiciding her son to keep him from having her brothers disease. You're right in expanding his role of king since really probably best role edward norton has ever done was behind a mask ironically.

I would then spread out the stuff that happens with guis and while yeah he makes a great antagonist..it's almost too much, caricature. you need to show him as an idiot but his character has no redeeming qualities..he's just a cartoonish villian.

Saladin was the best antagonist mostly because they spent so little time with him.

I feel like they were trying to do the whole monomyth thing which is why everyone liked liam's character but I feel like he was killed off too quickly and they could have left him sickly a lot longer.

The characterization just didn't make sense more I thought about it, he goes from being a blacksmith to a knight in basically 3 or 4 scenes. He just knows shit by time two forces meet at kharrak.

> Ridley Scott wanted to make a political drama, but Fox wanted a Gladiator-style action movie with a romance suplot

>I think Jerusalem belongs to everyone and we should respect one and other religious beliefs. Inshallah.
Why can't Ridley make a protag that isn't a politically correct mary sue? How can a peasant blacksmith become a train fighter and military commander out of no where? Why are the crusaders only shown as the aggressors in the movie? Why can't bloom act for shit? Why does the mc completely forget about murdering his brother? Could have a been decent epic if it wasn't bogged down with a shitty protag and ridely's fear of offending a muslim.

IT COULD'VE BEEN SO GOOD BROS

It felt like everyone besides Joel Edgerton was phoning it in.

>The characterization just didn't make sense more I thought about it, he goes from being a blacksmith to a knight in basically 3 or 4 scenes. He just knows shit by time two forces meet at kharrak.

This. His "character development" was just all over the place.

>no more historical epics, dramas etc..

From what I know, it was good in the original 4-5 hours long cut that will never see the light of day.
Fuck corporations.

What is it with executives ruining everything, first The Hobbit and now I hear about this. Fucking Jews

No, Ridley apparently was the one who prefer the theatrical cut to the 4 hour one.

You're forgetting The Last Samurai
if you meant with Bloom only than yes it is

Ridley is a tasteless talentless hack and everyone knows it, fuck Ridley.

He didn't ruin it, he was just laughably out of his depth compared to his co-stars. Also we all know Scott is fucking hopeless when it comes to the human element of film making, so if the actors or script dont have it, he won't know any better.

>movie introduces motley crew of badass crusaders led by Liam Neeson and his 12-inch cock
>they all immediately die for no reason

what did scott mean by this?

>his entire character motivation is atonement yet he doesn't seem remorseful, mostly he just seems bored.
Because he was told he'd find forgiveness in the holy land. He found land, power, money, and pussy with none of his sins following him there, but he's still unchanged on the inside. His character arc was overcoming his own ennui.
Also. You don't need a line break between every sentence. It makes you look like a mobileposting redditor fresh of the boat and desperate for attention.

he must've been her best lay ever, what else could fuck a woman up like that?

How the fuck could you not list Gladiator?

its a list of movies starring Orlando Bloom

>Lord of the Rings
>Troy
>Kingdom of Heaven
>Pirates of the Caribbean
Hey, that got me thinking, does Orlando Blum even has any famous role in movie that is set in modern times?

...oh

Elizabethtown was pretty funny I guess

Elizabethtown

>Killing a shit eating grin priest doesn't actually convey any negative traits to him.
It was his brother. Even if he was perfectly justified in killing him its still one of the big no-no's in the judeo-christian tradition. It's humanity's second sin after disobedience to God's will.
The point isn't to give him negative traits but to give him a reason to abandon his past and seek redemption for a crime he feels guilty about not feeling more guilty for.

Could it have worked?

But that movie flopped and critics hated it

I think he had a small role in black hawk down.

yeah wasnt he the dumb cunt that fell out of the chopper

Actually It'd be hilarious if Bloom played Commodus

Nah, he doesn't really look like a villian, especially when he was younger, people wouldn't hate him as much as they hated Phoenix

>manlet
>frizzy hair
>gormless face

Bloom was the original Kit Harington

I really wanted to like it but it was just so bad. Not even Kiefer Sutherland hamming it up could save it.

he's like way taller than Jon Snow lol

This was a thing? I never even knew this movie existed.

I remember seeing trailer for this movie in cinema and it spoiled the entire plot, I even watched the movie later to confirm it and trailer showed 90 % of what happens. Even Batman and Superman and Spider-Man: Homecoming trailers weren't as bad

>it spoiled the entire plot
Did you not know Vesuvius was going to erupt?

yep.

He really didnt fuck up Kingdom of Troy. Studio cut did, Directors cut is a 10/10 Deus Vult kino. He literally had no effect on it, his scenes were irrelevant, he was the forrest gump of the crusades.

Katy, for all her retardation has atleast 3 hit songs on the radio, and i'm enjoying all them all.

He was still a perfect Legolas.

I heard both of the movies were fucked by the cuts, fortunately i've only watched the directers cut, both were great

He was good in Kingdom of Heaven, and Troy was ruined by Paris being a faggot dandy even in the source material, so it's hardly his fault.

He was fucking awesome in Troy.

is orlando bloom career over?

the only reason why he's still getting work is because studios made more lotr films (hobbit trilogy) and more POTC films. what will happen now?

The only thing I remember about this movie was Kit Harington getting pissed off at the interviewer who made the "you know what they say about movies based on pompeii?" "what do they say?" "it's gonna blow." joke and then taking it very personally like the guy was going after him rather than just reciting an old joke and then when it came out it got critically panned pretty much across the board.

I love how he ran away from Menelaus.

its still a good movie even with his bland mary sue of a character.

All is as God wills it, friend.

Yeah, no. Fuck it. I like it, it{s comfycore at its finest.

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