Alien

>Alien
>"[The Xenomorph is the] perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility."

>Aliens
>a shotgun is enough to annihilate it, or even just running it over with a vehicle

What the actual fuck?

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Technology is what makes us humans strong. Without it, us and any known creature would succumb to a single Xenomorph.

A dumb robot said that.

>be head of multi-trillion dollar corporation
>see a far-off planet full of incredibly deadly lifeforms that I want to capture and study
>instead of sending a well-equipped, well-trained, well-prepared team of elite combat units that know exactly what their objective is and how to execute it flawlessly, send a woefully ill-equipped, poorly-trained, poorly-prepared team of disgruntled researchers/scientists/lowly grunts that don't even know their objective
???

>HURR DURR IT CAN'T WITHSTAND NUCLEAR BLAST HENCE IT'S NOT A PERFECT ORGANISM!
Are you legit retarded, OP?

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Thr Nostromo was a cargo vessel with little to no weapons. Do you not remember the DIY shit they made in futile attempts to keep the Alien at bay? They didn't even have any guns. Also, it is shown in Aliens that while not invincible, a group of them can decimate an entire squad of highly trained marines armed to the teeth.

>a shotgun or a car = a nuclear blast

Alien = movie
Aliens = flick for videogame players and anime watchers

>perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility."

It is not objectively a perfect organism -- it's just Ash's idea of a perfect organism... and Ash is a crazy fucking robot.

In Alien Ripley shot the fucking thing with a harpoon gun or whatever and it didn't bounce off retard

You have never use a shotgun, do you? No animal would survive a shot inside the mouth, not even a whale.

Aliens is an action movie

Aliens is for dummies, Alien is pure kino

just imagine if an Xeno picked up a shotgun, they'd all be fucked

Xenomorphs are actually a shit organism
They can't use tools or make things (apart from pointless resin)
They can't plan, they just charge into gunfire
Kill the queen and you kill the hive
Huge vulnerable eggs that can't even hatch until a mammal within a certain size range gets within a few feet
Lengthy gestation period in stomach while they are defenceless

Really they are shit, The Thing is maybe a "perfect organism" but not these vagina headed clowns

Cameron is a hack.

the retarded creature would drool all over it and melt it

this, is scary against a few fags on a ship but against anything real its shit.

user they are 1 day old when shit happens. How are they supposed to do anything against shotguns? Given time they would acquire technology because suposedly they are smarter than humans

Wrong. They mention numerous times that even Weyland Yutani wouldn't be able to get the xenomorph past the government quarantine. So they sent in some lowly, highly dispensible soldiers, as well as a corporate shill that would get one of the team impregnated with the facehugger in order to get the xenomorph past quarantine.

>perfect organism
>dumb monster attacking humans for no reason and getting killed as a result

Covenant made it even worse. Alien was a retarded animal dumber than a dog in that last part on the ship.

It was able to slaughter Nostromo crew because they were civilians without proper weapons.

>[The Xenomorph is the] perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
said the dumb robot who thought the best way to kill someone was to shove a magazine down their throat

But it's a PORNO mag. It's SYMBOLIC. Don't you GET THAT?

Aliens sucked as a sequel to Alien. Even Alien 3 did a better job at that.

If you like Aliens, you are definitely below a 100 iq.

Disgusting.

Aliens is the best film of the franchise.
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>a perfect organism is invincible

They didn't have shotguns in the first movie. What made it special was that the people didn't have guns, just a flamethrower.

Ridley pls

He was trying to rape Ripley but he doesn't have a dick.

it's perfect in that Xenos are a threat to humans even in a humans safest environment. What other animal could actually manage to kill a single human when on a Space ship?

imagine if a Siberian tiger was on that ship with Ripley. Would it of managed to kill a single human? Probably not.

>shotgun blast RIGHT IN ITS MOUTH
>being run over BY A TANK
Wow how could it possibly die from those things, JC is a hack

>highly trained marines
The Colonial Marines never struck me as "highly trained"

>tfw giger wanted the xeno in alien 3 to be erotic, and seduce the criminal monks, he even gave it lips
>tfw fincher was a spineless idiot that let fox decide what would be in the film

Its a mostly shit franchise with a weak as fuck storyline and you know it.

>it's a Pokemon successfully indoctrinated generations to come making them think evolution has anything to with strength, size or endurance episode

Fincher was a first time director directing the third installment of a highly successful franchise. You actually believe FOX would have let him have complete control of what would be in the film? Fuck no.

leave fincher alone pls no bully

>DUDE THE ALIEN WAS CREATED BY A GAY ROBOT

Just a reminder that the only people who shit on Aliens are dumb millennials trying to sound edgy and smart, or Ridleyfags in denial that their idol has become senile and is ruining the franchise's legacy with his shit ideas.

>Hating anime on an anime discussion forum

Ridley always had shit ideas.

The original Alien shooting script concluded with the Alien sneaking on to the shuttle, tearing Ripley's head off and then radioing for help in Ripley's voice. A Fox exec called in and straight up said "If you shoot that we'll fucking fire you right now"

The most baffling and retarded change is the fact that xenomorphs can suddenly run on walls.

>if you think Aliens made some retarded changes you like Alien Covenant

they have claws, what's the issue?

>Aliens is bad
I love this meme. It's really been picking up steam this past year.

>reminder that if you liked what i dislike you are edgy millennial
Aliens was pure degeneracy.

>If you dislike something you're just a bandwagoner
Hate this meme desu

Cameron is a hack

it was him that make it being a puppet and destroyed the movie

One pissed off chimp could take out most of the crew.

You do realise in Alien a shotgun if they had one, or if they were in a position where they were able to run it over in a vehicle, it would have been killed just the same as in Aliens.
Right? The deluded opinion of a android doesn't change that.

THIS

Dan O'Bannon and David Giler are the true authors of the original Alien.

Well, Aliens is just a remake of Them! after all.
You know, that 60s movie about giant atomic monster ants?

RIDLEY SCOTT: 'It's like a rather beautiful, humanoid, biomechanoid insect.' (Making of Alien 2003)

RIDLEY SCOTT: "I wanted them to be insect-like. Like an ant, because if we examine an ant under a microscope they're kind of elegant. And I wanted him to be elegant and dangerous." (The Alien Saga Documentary 2002)

jeez the alien is already erotic enough but I woulda been down for that.

the shotgun that "annihilated" it was fired right in the inside of the aliens mouth, the fuck do you expect. also, of course a fucking MULTI-TONNE APC IS GONNA FUCKING KILL IT WHEN IT DRIVES OVER IT, YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

That doesn't look as erotic as the original.

Proof that the shotgun is the perfect weapon.

Shut up, George.

Well I'd try putting my dick in it.

Sadly it was rendered useless after this due to the acid, damn shame but he couldn't have known that

>O'Bannon, meanwhile, was adamant that the titular creature be mortal, wanting to avoid the indestructible monster trope common in horror at the time, and as a result needed to find some way to prevent the crew from simply killing their tormentor. >Help eventually came from Ron Cobb, who suggested giving the Alien acid blood. >"That was Ron's idea and I want everyone to know it," O'Bannon later recalled. "I wanted the thing to be, in every respect, a natural animal, which means yes, if you shoot it, it'll die."

Perfect organism autists BTFO

>Alien was pure degeneracy.
ftfy

THIS

minor this; but the way they nonchalantly throw around "bug hunt" suggests they've had a few rodeos with extra terestrial predators

Bumping this, also curbstomps biomechanical fags that say the Thing couldn't assimilate it.

>Alien
>psychosexual horror movie with some of the most innovative visual design in movies featuring a literal rape monster in a living industrial ship so well-crafted that the ship is its own character

>Aliens
>sterilized sexless ants get slaughtered by walking stereotypes and tough girl Ripley while quipping in sterile commercial environments reducing the xenomorph from a walking unknowable nightmare to literally bugs

>can't plan
They plan all the time. Set traps, get around them, break out of captivity.
>kill the queen, you kill the hive
Wrong. A new queen takes the place, either through a queen face hugger, or a regular xeno becoming a queen.
>huge vulnerable eggs
All eggs are vulnerable, it's no more vulnerable than a live birth
>Lengthy gestation period
Much much shorter than any other animal close to its size.

Why would the alien even be biomechanical? Makes no sense.

They didn't have shotguns in Alien so they really didn't know better.

Also Covenant turned them into fucking jokes.

Pretty much. But then who is the target audience for Covenant?

Just like in the original movie, the alien is referred to as an animal ("How can they kill the power, they're animals!"). The movie never refers to the aliens as bugs. The first instance of the word 'bug' is spoken by Hudson:

Hudson: Is this gonna be a standup fight, sir, or another bug hunt?

Bug hunt refers to a mission without combat. Also, it could not refer to the Aliens, since the Marines had never come across them before. The second reference to a bug is in the Director's Cut, during the discussion of the source of the Alien eggs. The reference is quickly shot down by Vasquez, and Hudson concedes.

Some retard troll pointing out the construction materials of the Alien's teeth in closeups

And anyway why giant intelligent bugs can't be terrifying?

Alien was an insectoid creature from the start.

Giant intelligent bugs sound pretty damn terrifying.

I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill them all!

They call it perfect organism, not immortal lifeform.

>the way they nonchalantly throw around "bug hunt" suggests they've had a few rodeos with extra terestrial predators
This is my least favourite thing about Aliens. Why was everyone so reluctant to believe ripley if aliens are so common they have teams of space marines trained to fight them?

>in terms of design but not reproduction or theme

They don't, you moron. They're just regular marines. A bug hunt is a military term for a mission with no combat.
See

>A bug hunt is a military term for a mission with no combat
The jumpy guy didn't start screaming it until the team was being killed by Aliens, plenty of combat to be had.

You're a moron for believing whatever you're told without question.

I think it was less not believing it actually happened and more of them not taking the threat seriously.

Threadly reminder that Alien 3 is a great film that did everything it could to be faithful to the original and Aliens fans have been shitting all over it for years for not being more space marine crap.

That's probably true, watched the AC a few years ago and found it to be a decent movie, better than what Aliens shat up prior to the final act.

>biomechanical

Not to defend that term, but if you shot a battery, it also would leak acid.

The first movie is perfect. The second is for fucking 14 year olds.

It's not just the teeth, it's 90% corrugated PVC pipes. It even has exhausts like a truck.

>Alien
>break quarantine parameters within 5 minutes, obviously shit goes south
>horrible effects
>only first 30 mins are interesting + the evil robot plottwist

>Aliens
>forgettable action movie with dumb grunts

>30+ years later

>Prometheus and Alien Covenant
>both have a crew just as retarded as aliens

what the actual fuck?

>believing bilbo's lies

This.
2 > 1 > 3 > 4

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if you think that's dumb watch alien covenant

>>DUDE THE ALIEN WAS CREATED BY A GAY ROBOT
It can't have been though, the Engineers had seen the same things before long enough ago to carve it into the walls of their temple head room thing.

B-But James Rofle told me it was the best.

>Davidfags BTFO

The manager at Hot Topic called, you're late for your shift.

Oh fuck, you're right, this proves that shooty shooty bang bang is better than cosmic horror

Plebs. Alien 3 should be erased from canon.