Was his plan successful, Sup Forums? or was it all a wasted effort?

was his plan successful, Sup Forums? or was it all a wasted effort?

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Probably successful. It's like how World War II got America and Russia to put aside their differences and work together forever.

ambiguity

successful short term futile long term

This, that's the whole point of his final conversation with Manhattan

it's a bit different because in WW2, the threat ended. Nazi Germany was defeated, and so the USA and the USSR no longer had a common enemy to bond around. Here, so long as there's the sense that another Alien could attack at literally any time -- forever -- that common enemy never goes away

No. We see it in the last page that his plan will be undone with the discovery of Rorschach's journal. Basically the fate of the smartest man in the world's plans is in the hands of a dumbass who has ketchup spilled on his shirt.

Not to mention Rorschach's journal

>implying that the guy will pick up Rorschach's journal among all of the other garbage in the file
>implying that literally anyone would take Rorschach's journal seriously
wew

>journal picked up out of the crank file
Of course his plan fell apart

It's up to us to imagine if Rorschach's journal would actually get any credibility, the journal itself was kind of established to have little cred.

>forever
>What is the Cold War

Successful in the comic, failure in the shitty movie

The journal was like the second or third item from the top.And there would probably be enough people that would consider it credible

Rorschach himself isn't a very credible source to begin with

>the joke
>(you)

>extreme right-wing conspiracy rag prints a story ""supposedly"" from Rorschach's journal indicating that the whole world is fucked
in other news, the official newsletter of the extreme right-wing militant group the Sons of Odin has published an article from a known paranoid schizophrenic about how Obama is actually allied with ISIL. Notice the amount of official inquiries into the matter despite all of the rednecks who take such literature seriously

You never know,our world never had Manhattan or an Alien Squid attack that wiped out millions in New York,so drawing parallels is hard

Then again, Rorschach was something of a minor celebrity due to never stopping his vigilante activity, it may be scoffed at by higher minded critics, but the common man might believe there's something to it.

plenty of people also believe that the US government did 9/11, doesn't mean that there was a revolution over it or that GWB was impeached

So he just has to keep the world in a state of perpetual fear. I'm sure he'll pull it off flawlessly.

Difrence is thats not true (although it would explain a lot)
The evidence against adrian auctualy exists

I think that's an overly-realistic take on this that totally deflates the entire idea of the ending. I get what you're saying but that's not what's happening in terms of the story.

he has to do very little, people will do it for him. "Remember NY" and a display of the footage will be all the nudging that people need.

you don't have to keep the world scared of aliens forever, you just have to do it for long enough for the people of the US and the USSR to start genuinely liking each other

I dont think they were auctualy extreme right they just thought everything was a commie plot

It has been a while though

the idea of the ending is that it's intentionally ambiguous -- Manhattan says that "nothing ever ends." The point is that Adrian doesn't get to just sit back and say "whew I'm glad that's over with!" The potential for his grand master plan to leak to the public will ALWAYS exist, and he's forever chained to surpressing it. The ending isn't necessarily to say that the charade will be exposed her and now by the New Frontiersman, it's saying that the charade could be exposed by anyone, at any time, just as easily as it COULD be done in the final pages of the book.

>long enough for the people of the US and the USSR to start genuinely liking each other
So longer then his lifespan

That could go on indefinitely. And a display of footage isn't going to make everyone all work together.

yeah, that's the fundamental limitation of his plan. he's probably going to die before it can come to fruition, and then what?

That makes sense

>twin_towers.webm

I don't think so. If Veidt's plan was to unite the world via fake alien invasion, wouldn't people eventually catch on to the fact that the invasion was never going to happen? That's the whole point, after all. Veidt's plan was more of a band-aid than a cast.

He'll have to clone himself and raise him since he's the only one smart enough to keep it running. Nothing ever ends, including Ozymandius' dynasty

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It isnt awful?

The only way for the journal to get any credibility would be if Pyramid Ind was proven to belong to Adrian. IF Adrian didn't get rid of all the traces, then Janey would probably be asked about and confirm it, IF Adrian let her live. Then, IF the employment history of Wally was still existing, it would prove he also was employed by Pyramid. This would probably be enough to set the whole thing off.
But I doubt Veidt actually let any of that slip by. Records would be clean.
Rorschach's journal would be the delusional ramblings of a sociopath.

It wasn't a success thing. In the end nothing ever matters.

He believed what he did was right and at that moment he thought he did good. That's all it matters.

I don't think even Adrian thought that his actions were good. He could justify it because it was necessary but if his plan unravels and the world doesn't end he won't even have that comfort

The doomsday clock starting over again with the kid's shirt and the Ozymandias poem, along with Manhattan's final words, imply that however successful the plan was in the short term it will eventually fail.

Rorsharch's journal only talks about Veidt in connection with the "Mask Killer" smokescreen he was chasing the whole story. He has no idea about the squid, and nothing about killing superheroes, who the public largely mistrusts anyways, begins to connect with "otherworldly space vagina"

He said nothing lasts forever.
Not that it is for only a short time.