Shills and shitposters, I'm giving you 1 last chance to convince me to stand with her. Convince me why I should ignore Benghazi, the emails, and the Sanders scandal. Tell me why trump is bad for our country and tell me Hillary's plan to get us back on track. I want her policies I want her tax plan and I want her reasons for doing what she is.
This is your 1 and only chance shills. My support for trump has been wavering.
Show me why she's better then Trump.
Last thread you fuckers brought nothing to the table. I'm giving you 1 more chance.
Sorry, but I believe the one who shits themselves due to poor health in this situation is shillary.
nice try shill fag.
Carter Flores
Fuck it, why not, a b8's a b8
> has an economic plan that will not ridiculously add to the nation's debt
> is not proposing the removal of the estate tax which affects the wealthiest 0.29%
> has proven she has a demeanor for public service
> understand realpolitik, and more importantly is capable of assembling teams of advisers to give sound foreign policy advice (instead of going with her gut)
Hudson Scott
She isn't Drumpf :^)
Jason Morris
_ _______ ____! wanna play hangman?
Xavier Gomez
>A FUCKING LEAF
Hahaha nice meme, still not an argument.
Leo Long
Because we'll finally be able to neutralize that pesky constitution when she packs the court.
Juan Foster
If you like someone who does cartel style mass killings...
Jack Miller
Fuck off leaf
Honestly, and this is the quintessential worst argument to make to Sup Forums, but she'll bring a new level of democratic dominance to this country we haven't seen before.
She'll give us a majority in SCOTUS, she's had a shit ton of experience revolving around the presidency so there will be little to no 'learning curve' ergo if she actually goes through with what she says it'll happen hard and fast while republicans are reeling from the election that destroyed their party.
Literally the nation would go blue for atleast a second Hillary term after that
Caleb Long
>Can't refute arguments >Look at the flag >Phew, I'm in luck: he's currently using a Canadian IP!
Jordan Rivera
>is capable of assembling teams of advisers to give sound foreign policy advice WTF this one's absolute bullshit
Blake Barnes
> understand realpolitik, and more importantly is capable of assembling teams of advisers to give sound foreign policy advice (instead of going with her gut)
Like that Obama dream team with John "r'porting fer dooty" Kerry.
Cameron Campbell
>"she isn't drumpf" is an argument I asked you to tell me about Hillary, not trump.
Grayson Nguyen
"What does it matter?"
Mason Cruz
It actually is. >"You're from Canada" isn't.
Josiah Allen
In brief, Hillary represents stability in world affairs.
Trump really does have a problem with self control and it's only getting worse over time. I suspect that he has a deep hatred of Asians and especially the Chinese. If he's president, his ego might really lead him to attacking China and starting World War 3.
This is not hyperbole or understatement, he really is retarded.
Elijah Moore
>sound foreign policy advice u wut m8?
Landon Martinez
> > understand realpolitik, and more importantly is capable of assembling teams of advisers to give sound foreign policy advice (instead of going with her gut)
lol is this a fucking troll?
Anthony Brooks
Does that make guns go away or something? lol...
Jack Gray
Its 2016 bro. A female president would be progressive and will show everyone you arent sexist
William Barnes
>In brief, Hillary represents stability in world affairs.
It's as if ISIS and the Arab spring never even happened.
Ryder Bennett
This one's pretty good, at least you tried. Not much to off of though, keep going.
Zachary Allen
No matter who wins, the right wing will keep growing larger and larger, as long as the left keeps poking them and won't leave them alone. That's a fact.
Jack Miller
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Parker Kelly
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Jose Sullivan
Literally no arguments against Trump... just shit you made up and name-calling.
This thread is about Hillary.
Gavin Ortiz
It means a rubber stamp for executive actions from open borders, defining "hate speech," draconian regulations, idiotic treaties, more federal control over the economy.
And every liberal wet dream lawsuit revisited and rubber stamped.
It will be a very busy supreme court.
Alexander Flores
OP here, asked for policies, tax plans ect. ITT: >trumps a baby >she's not drumpf >she has experience(at a job she has repeatedly fucked up) >trump will start WWIII with china(nothing to support this) >2016 >some blatant lies about how good a job she's done in the past.
You guys are the worst shills I've ever seen. Hillary needs to pay you all way less.
Jace Allen
>Does that make guns go away or something? lol...
They won't go away, but only criminals will have them.
Gabriel Harris
It's actually funny that you're so delusional that you think there would be no consequences to those actions. That would be considered tyranny (not that it hasn't been happening all along).
Constitutional Rights supercede execute orders, and a ban could never happen, anyway. You're right about them being liberal wet-dreams though, because that's all they are and ever will be.
Zachary Harris
Other way around in my opinion, historically the left always wins in the end here in the good ole U.S
Alexander Walker
Why does Hillary claim to be for the middle class?
Anthony Richardson
The government isn't criminal though and that wouldn't be tyranny punishable by death? Is that what you're saying?
OR do you just want to turn all law-abiding citizens into criminals because of your inferiority complex?
Charles Murphy
What are you even talking about?
>Yeah because leftists are known for being such manly tough violent fighters these days
Leftists have been known throughout history to be the first group to get slaughtered. After playing their parts as useful idiots they get executed.
Levi Taylor
>implying you're not actually a cuck from canada >implying anyone cares what a canacuck thinks about american politics
Michael Gomez
Shills, you are bad at this.
Hudson Baker
I'm honestly not surprised that noone could name one good thing about her, OP. And she's been in politics for how long?
What a joke... THIS THREAD IS PROOF.
Dominic Wood
Shills are sliding this.
Jeremiah Carter
I will post this thread once a day every day from now on. This is so much more effective than fighting against the shills
Chase Morris
This is premium leaf shitposting ladies and gentlemen.
Carter Powell
Maybe you should ask somewhere else OP. I think CTR is out of spare cash for Mongolian tweed appreciation boards.
Julian Walker
> Hillary > stability in world affairs
Hillary is another term for Obama, fuck off shill.
Elijah Brown
Other than prolonging conflicts caused by Sec. Clinton, what wars did Obama start?
Anyway,
Honestly, I'm not going to tell you to vote Clinton. I don't want her in office, but I don't want Trump in office either. Shillary's in the pockets of too many foreign powers, and Trump would probably start a civil war because he has little self-control of emotions—I can hear a Clinton attack ad in the next room that's focusing on his loose-cannon behavior as I type—so I don't know what to tell you .
I will say this. Hillary's more receptive to what's going in her wallet than Trump is. The left seems to have more Super PAC influence that benefits middle and lower class (not much, mind you, but more than the right from what I've seen, LCR-related groups notwithstanding). >Reminder that her husband was a closet Republican, shrinking the Federal Government which is uncommon for Dems. (The deliciously hilarious contrast is that the next president expanded the federal government, again very unusual for his party). If she retains ANY influence from his ideas and Administration, we may in fact have a smaller fed gov't under Hillary. >As someone already said, economic plan that won't incredibly inflate our already-ridiculous debt. Going back to smaller gov't, increase revenue+decrease expenditures=decrease of debt gain. >again piggybacking off of another comment, no removal of estate tax. Frankly, the estate tax is a good source of revenue and it only affects a miniscule portion of our population. Those affected? The people who are economic "rentiers," where they either inherited their wealth or accrued it through investment returns for little actual work. Notably, Trump wants to abolish the tax because he'd be affected by its removal, and so would his business friends. Although, whose to say that Clinton wouldn't enjoy the removal of the estate tax too... Either way, again increase revenue. >gun control? I'm not going to go here.
Brody Wilson
, continued going to turn more towards >convince me why Trump is bad for the country first and foremost, a massive percent of the country is middle class or lower. Arguably, the divide in the country of the classes is growing (thanks to both parties, in different ways) and money speaks a lot here. For what it's worth, Trump goes out of his way to say he's the voice of the middle class, despite never being broke in his life, and never having to endure the horrors of the "failed" American Education system thanks to that lovely boarding school his father sent him to, probably on the back of a small loan of a million dollars. >tl;dr Trump does not have the experience of a lower or middle class citizen trying to succeed in the modern United States of America. His idea of a business deal is "give me $6,000,000 (or so) and a X% royalty on revenue and I'll let you put my name on that building over there." Most citizens don't have the ability to make a shit ton of cash by licensing their name. His experience, while admirable, is an outlier. He was born into wealth, and accrues it like all other rentiers. >Trump does not have the experience of a middle class citizen and therefore cannot rightfully claim to champion what he never experienced.
You want me to convince you to vote Hillary. I'm not going to do that. I don't trust her for certain reasons. I don't trust Trump for other reasons. I feel like Trump would try running this country as a business. Improve efficiency and cull inefficiency. My fear is he'll push that line of "culling the inefficiency" so far that we'll see some rather nasty unexpected consequences. I think of it as working on a building, and you notice faults in the foundation. Instead of fixing the fault, you just cut it out and instead focus on building techniques that maximize efficiency with less foundation. At what point does the efficiency fail to the loss of foundation?
John Jackson
Good replys user I have my doubts about her taking steps to smaller government, but I'll give you a benefit of a doubt Truth is, I was never going to vote clinton, I made this thread to prove a point, a point that you broke. Good job, I didn't think any like you were on this site.
Let me guess, the other 70+ million were lost in a boating accident?
Blake Gomez
But to give a proper reply to this part: I can appreciate the flaws Trump has, but the constant scandals coming from Hillary, piled with her flipping on many issues, has me concerned.
This election has become about something more then who will be our next president. This election decides who will be leading our next generation.
Daniel Turner
I don't want you to vote for Hillary. I want to break your spirit so you will become apathetic towards politics the rest of your life.
A truly progressive America can only exist if all forms of the regressive right lose morale permanently.
November is when we will break you.
Logan Jones
You can't break me, you can only make my erection stronger.
Charles Miller
>has an economic plan that will not ridiculously add to the nation's debt
by taxing the everloving fuck out of everything, yeah makes sense.
> I suspect that he has a deep hatred of
>implying implications
holy shit these shills are retarded as fuck.
these are the average hillaryposters
Matthew Rivera
>the constant scandals coming from Hillary She was careless with her email security, but there is no evidence of malicious intent. She has been cleared of any wrongdoing in Benghazi by partisan investigations. There is no evidence that shows Clinton took part in the conspiracy against Sanders, even then, the DNC broke no laws.
These scandals, while nothing to forget about, have been blown out of proportion by her political opposition and right-wing and click-bait media outlets.
>implying you can break us without shear force/violence >implying we don't know how the left operates >implying we don't put logic before "feelz"
Robert Lopez
>I have my doubts about her taking steps to smaller government You aren't alone. It would come down to who lines her pockets more. Anyway, thank you for providing a challenge worth approaching. I haven't seen many of those here recently. I think it more comes down to "who will leave a surviving generation to take over."
DON FOIL HATS NOW >DON FOIL HATS NOW DON FOIL HATS NOW >DON FOIL HATS NOW DON FOIL HATS NOW >DON FOIL HATS NOW DON FOIL HATS NOW >DON FOIL HATS NOW
If the FBI-user threads are to be believed: >use as prescribed with dose of salt >1: archive.is/JEXOo >2: archive.is/pgLpf >3: archive.is/0nuFe >4: archive.is/Wt2T0 >5: archive.is/Nct7R Trump would be willing to cause a Civil War in order to end Clinton upon his election. Clinton most definitely has ulterior motives related to her pocketbook, but if I'm going to be a pawn in someone's game I'd rather be a pawn in the game that gives me a chance to actually survive. Unfortunately, it's now a question of which player has the less dangerous game. >Trump and civil war within the Gov't - Gov't infighting vs citizens >Hillary attacking Russia because she hates Russia - Hello WWIII
I don't like where this election cycle is going at all. Can we please just break the two-party system already? If we're being honest, the two parties are basically circlejerking each other to the benefit of those who pay them the most money while pretending to fight over things Americans care about.
Jace Barnes
>implications Nice try, though...
Jason Williams
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Luke Moore
Trump's tax plan doesn't make sense. From the non-partisan Tax Policy Center:
This paper analyzes presidential candidate Donald Trump’s tax proposal. His plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates on individuals and businesses, increase standard deduction amounts to nearly four times current levels, and curtail many tax expenditures. His proposal would cut taxes at all income levels, although the largest benefits, in dollar and percentage terms, would go to the highest-income households. The plan would reduce federal revenues by $9.5 trillion over its first decade before accounting for added interest costs or considering macroeconomic feedback effects. The plan would improve incentives to work, save, and invest. However, unless it is accompanied by very large spending cuts, it could increase the national debt by nearly 80 percent of gross domestic product by 2036, offsetting some or all of the incentive effects of the tax cuts.
Hillary Clinton proposes raising taxes on high-income taxpayers, modifying taxation of multinational corporations, repealing fossil fuel tax incentives, and increasing estate and gift taxes. Her proposals would increase revenue by $1.1 trillion over the next decade. Nearly all of the tax increases would fall on the top 1 percent; the bottom 95 percent of taxpayers would see little or no change in their taxes. Marginal tax rates would increase, reducing incentives to work, save, and invest, and the tax code would become more complex. The analysis does not address a forthcoming proposal to cut taxes for low- and middle-income families.
We count on demographics change. Once you realize you cannot win without pandering and accepting minorities within your ranks, you will have already lost. The degree to which you lose this cycle will also represent the degree to which the republican party will have to pivot.
This election cycle might very well be the last hoorah for the blue collar whites. Good luck.
Asher Hernandez
see image >She was careless with her email security, but there is no evidence of malicious intent If I drive my car carelessly but I don't intend to hurt anyone do I get a pass? Those emails leaked vital information to foreign countries, and may or may not have lead to an Iranian scientist's execution for treason.
As hard as her supporters try, that's not something you can just sweep under the rug.
Lucas Roberts
That's some nice evidence you got there.
Joseph Morales
Also >xCHuy4am >XChuy 4AM Sick band name
Cameron Cook
>If I drive my car carelessly but I don't intend to hurt anyone do I get a pass?
No, but it's lot better than if you drove intending to hurt someone. DUI is a fine, murder is a prison sentence.
>and may or may not have lead to an Iranian scientist's execution for treason.
Source?
Leo Nelson
literally impossible to invade china, not a single soldier would follow that order let alone any actual government officials. not to mention the checks and balances preventing that. seriously read a book.
She will be the first president to shit her depends while being triggered into World War III. Also she'll import Muslims who will rape and kill sjws and fags.
It will be great entertainment for elites and celebs to watch in the comfort of their luxurious fortresses
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Jason Turner
Keep dreaming buddy, that's what got us to the level we're at.
And while you sleep you lose, and you lose, and you lose, while we take control over the highest positions of power, all aspects of mass-media, and even the education of your children.
Your propaganda and ideology will die with you when your children are raised in classrooms overwhelmingly non-white and taught progressive ideals.
Sounds pretty evil to me. With plans like that you deserve to be purged. Even though it's just a liberal wetdream and won't happen. There's too many guns for there to not be a civil war. The useful idiots that hate freedom and the Constitution aren't the ones with guns who are willing to defend it. They don't like to take responsibility and get their hands dirty. They expect others to do all the work for them and it will never happen. They're all talk.
Once they are no longer useful, they will be the first ones to be executed, just like all the times in the past.
Justin Allen
your ability to assume about the population at large is almost as impressive and incredulous as 's ability to do the exact same thing.
Austin Wilson
What do you mean it won't happen? Do you have your head stuck in the sand? The country is already 64% white. It's less white than Canada. It is probably the least white anglo country. In one generation it will no longer be a majority white-nation. There is NOTHING you can do to fix this. Shutting off all immigration into the country won't even be enough to undo what's happened.
If you were truly going to commit genocide against the minorities, you already would've done it when the nation was 80, or even 70% white. But you didn't, and you won't do anything when it's 50% then 40% white either.
Get used to the new America.
Mason Adams
It's easy to see how "leftist intellectuals" operate. It's not something new. The 2nd Amendment would already be gone if what he said was true. Fucking with the Constitution is asking for an early grave. There has never been something comparable to our Constitution throughout history. It's what makes us Americans and what makes protects our freedom. If we lose that then there would be a shit storm. Millions of people take an oath to protect it at all costs from enemies both foreign and domestic. Large numbers would be willing to die fighting for it before it ever gets taken away. What's left to protect when that happens? Politicians also take that oath, so the ones up would be committing treason.
Joshua Robinson
It's hardly ever been majority white retard. Learn some history. We have the most whites of any country here. Shut the fuck up.
Mason Jackson
>has an economic plan that will not ridiculously add to the nation's debt No she doesn't. Her fiscal policy is the exact same as Obama's--spend money we don't have, increase taxes but also increase spending. She hasn't proposed any major cuts and the increased taxes are literally trivial, they nowhere near cover our yearly shortfall.
>is not proposing the removal of the estate tax which affects the wealthiest 0.29% But is proposing increasing taxes on the other 99.71% of the country, and works for the Koch Brothers, the greatest consumers of corporate welfare on the planet.
>has proven she has a demeanor for public service Literally everyone hates Hillary Clinton, and if what you say is true, they hate her in SPITE of her accomplishments, which means she's even worse at dealing with people than Trump, who is only despised because he calls them names and is a blustering jackass.
>understand realpolitik, and more importantly is capable of assembling teams of advisers to give sound foreign policy advice (instead of going with her gut) She clearly does not understand realpolitik, as she stood at the helm of all three of the greatest foreign policy disasters of the 21st century--the "reset" with Russia (lol reset to 1970 maybe) Libya and the massive backfire in Syria. As for her advisers, she obviously doesn't have good ones, because she's so far achieved the literal opposite of every foreign policy goal she has pursued. George W. Bush has a better foreign policy track record than Hillary Clinton.
Adrian Cox
...not for long. We'll be bred out of the majority within a few generations. The Magna Carta notwithstanding, I think you missed the part where I pointed out where you both have similar thought patterns. It always bothers people when they're presented with an accurate comparison to their "rival."
God bless Canada, God Save the Queen, and whatever the fuck Australia is, um, god's will be done amen?
Asher Stewart
Guatemala, Mexico and the U.S. are among the very few countries throughout history whose constitutions have guaranteed the right to bear arms.
A study of constitutions going back to 1789 shows that only a minority has ever included gun rights… and the number has dwindled…
Twenty-four constitutions from nine countries have included gun rights in some form since 1789… most countries that had the right have actively chosen to reject it in subsequent constitutions.
17 percent had the right in 1875. Since the early 1900s, however, the proportion has been less than 10 percent and falling…
Today, only three out of nearly 200 constitutions contain a right to bear arms…
The Nicaraguan constitution provided… "the right to arm themselves in defense of their sovereignty, independence and revolutionary gains. It is the duty of the state to direct, organize and arm the people to guarantee this right."
The U.S. constitution is alone in omitting any written conditions under which the government can regulate arms and munitions. In other countries, the right is typically limited to self-defense, either of the home or the state itself. Guatemala gives its citizens the right to own weapons for personal use in the home and states that citizens can only be forced to relinquish guns by judicial order. Haiti gives citizens the right to use guns to defend the home but explicitly denies a general right to bear arms.
Kevin Watson
>mention the first document to even suggest that humanity has freedoms beyond the direct control of the ruler/ruling government >but muh guns Really? That's the only thing that's important here?
Like, are you shitting me?
Jesus fuck, your one-track mind is astounding. It's also depressing because it demonstrates the track that humanity is now focusing itself on with a steel determination and reckless abandon. There are no brakes on this train.
Andrew Adams
Trump is a nigger lover who went apeshit when the Chinese bought one of his properties. This didn't happen with the Russians or the Indians.
The only one retarded is Trump and blind sheep like you.
Jace Clark
Moloch the Bull, this woman is not suitable for the role of President. She is a traitor and a corrupt pig, and belongs in jail!
Charles Carter
I keep hearing Trump fucks saying they're going to show up at Clinton rallies with strobe flashlights, air horns and other noise makers hoping they can trigger her into having a seizure.
Sick fucks.
Liam Diaz
>mention the first document to even suggest that humanity has freedoms beyond the direct control of the ruler/ruling government Yeah and look at them now...
>but muh guns That's the thing that makes it and us as Americans unique, as I was saying in a previous post.
>Really? That's the only thing that's important here? No, but It's one of the few things preventing the government from completely removing the rest and probably some of us.
>Like, are you shitting me? No. Buy a gun.
>Jesus fuck, your one-track mind is astounding. It's also depressing because it demonstrates the track that humanity is now focusing itself on with a steel determination and reckless abandon. There are no brakes on this train. Humanity is focusing on it because the government is forcing them to. As I said earlier in the thread, history repeats itself. A path of "reckless abandon" as you put it, would be to surrender, lay down our arms, forget all of our traditions, our founding history, and the values of our country that make us Americans. Many have fought and died defending those principles and many will in the future.
Landon Gonzalez
someone's been drinking the cool-aid a little too long... I bet you've been sipping it straight from the titty, and ever since.
Gavin Scott
What fuckin cool-aid? History? The Constitution? THE FUCKING LAW? Yeah man, soooo "extreme"... Go back to your liberal arts college and suck on your commie professor's dick some more.
You probably aren't even American... and what's wrong with titties, fag?
