for rich EU countries paying Greece, Poland, Hungary, Spain, Portugal, Czechia, Romania etc. a shitton of money each year?
I seriously don't understand. We pay like 250 Euros net per taxpayer each year. For what? The EU bureaucracy is only 5% of the EU budget. I am completely fine to pay 10-15 Euros per year to uphold that bureaucracy, but WTF, why should I pay 250 Euros+ each year more in taxes so that a fatcat Greek or Pole or Romanian can get gibmees?
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EU policies benefit you more than them
You take their good stuff
So you pay them back or they leave
Because fuck the EU, that's why.
>EU policies benefit you more than them
So? They don't need to join if they don't want to. I say we don't pay them shit.
>You take their good stuff
What good stuff? We get Romanian gyspies, Italian criminals, Bulgarian pedophiles, Greek hookers, Polish manchilds etc. - we basically get the bottom of the barrel of their society.
>So you pay them back or they leave
How about we stop paying them and build a new Europe?
The only countries that actually benefit from the EU are germany and poland, the only reason why merkel hasn't abandoned it is because even with everything you pay it is still rentable for you
>The only countries that actually benefit from the EU are germany and poland, the only reason why merkel hasn't abandoned it is because even with everything you pay it is still rentable for you
So how about we STOP paying money and see who still wants to be in the EU. And then we create a new EU which is just about free trade and common harmonized business rules and not about fucking gibmees transfers?
Wealth egalization is a necessity for immigration egalization. Immigration egalization is a necessity for white genocide.
Essentially jews are using the EU to bribe them into a suicide pact with a temporary wealth boost.
Danke Deutschland für die gibs ich liebe Polen
tschus hans
Then kick us out of your shit union, oh wait, you can't.
>Then kick us out of your shit union, oh wait, you can't.
How about we don't pay money any more and Poland can then decide whether it wants to remain in the EU without all the gibmees?
Becaause no one would wnat to be part of an agreement that benefits only germany
I really want out of this fucking union
You play stupid games you win stupid prices
Sure, i'll call mama merkel and let her know if she's not busy nursing her sweet sweet 30 year olds.
Also make it an instantaneous leave and we have a deal.
Cause you are cucked even by Brussels.
Sharia law comes.
Prepare anus.
>Becaause no one would wnat to be part of an agreement that benefits only germany
Then why are the other net contributors in the Union? They pay more than they get.
The answer to every quoestion you will ever have is : Because you are cucked!
How is that a logical answer?
listen here Hans
its much more profitable for fourth reich than polen, stop bitching schmatterling
From Czech republic:
Europeans - germans probably mostly, robbed our industry after socialist block collapse.
They now suck above Euro 10bln on stock interests, and returning about Euro 2bln in subsidies. It little resembles, if you take out honey from bees, and return them little sugar...
But if you only show european subsidies, it seems, how is our country in great debt receiving so much from European union...
It is all you will be remembered by Hans.
really makes you think of nato and EU army in general
>They now suck above Euro 10bln on stock interests, and returning about Euro 2bln in subsidies.
How about we send 0 subsidies and keep all purchased Czech assets?
We don't get any money you muslim cunt.
You criminal bankers get all the money.
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APOLOGIZE!
Germans are worse than jews.
They fucked all of us over once more.
They are the cancer of Europe.
>We don't get any money you muslim cunt.
>You criminal bankers get all the money.
Agriculture subsidies and road construction benefit German bankers? What?
>How about we don't pay money any more
You want to go bankrupt you fucking idiot?
Keep paying you dumb fuck.
Pay so that Deutsche Bank doesn't collapse, and then you're forced to sell your ass to the slavs AGAIN.
>Greece pays in 1.77bn, gets out 6bn+ every year
>uuuhhh, the bad Germans give us so much money each year, the horror!
Can we kick out Greece already? Fucking freeloaders.
>Agriculture subsidies and road construction
Is this now a "we pretend it's the 90's" thread?
>Can we kick out Greece already?
Please do.
You can't though.
So, shut the fuck up and keep paying.
You made your bed. Now sleep on it.
>You want to go bankrupt you fucking idiot?
I think we just don't pay anymore and see what happens.
A lot of the money goes to building infrastructure in those places, which benefits German industry. Why does China build infrastructure in Africa? So they can get raw materials out. Germany is interested in Eastern European infrastructure for somewhat similar reasons.
>We pay like 250 Euros net per taxpayer each year. For what? The EU bureaucracy is only 5% of the EU budget.
Most of the EU budget is farm subsidies..
>Is this now a "we pretend it's the 90's" thread?
Are you stupid or something? Yes, it is mostly agriculture subsidies, structural funds for rural development (aka AGRICULTURE SUBSIDIES) and road & infrastructure construction.
We pay you like 35bn between 2014 and 2020 and you pay 7bn back in that period.
Why the fuck did you not leave last year? Your Tsipras said "fuck EU" and then he just didn't leave. Why?
>A lot of the money goes to building infrastructure in those places, which benefits German industry.
How would some fucking bridge in Poland or some side road in Romania or some tourist center in Greece help the German industry???
>Why does China build infrastructure in Africa?
Because they fucking OWN them thereafter. Germany doesn't own the infrastructure we pay for in the rest of the EU.
>So they can get raw materials out. Germany is interested in Eastern European infrastructure for somewhat similar reasons.
We don't get any raw materials from Eastern Europe. We don't get anything but gypsies and benefit scum from there.
>I think we just don't pay
>we
Yes. Just stop sending other countries money from the basement of your mother's muslim husband.
>sandwich hookers meme
German bishop calls for Islam to be taught in all state schools. Seven out of Germany's 16 federal states already include Islam in their reglious teaching.
I'd rather have a handful of sandwich hookers, than a few million kids reciting the quran while praying to mohammad.
>being asspained about agricultural subsidies.
wow I though you were talking about the "denbts".
Are you seriously butthurt about subsidies?
You are truly the lowest common kikenominator.
Fuck off.
>Because they fucking OWN them thereafter.
No, they don't.
>We don't get any raw materials from Eastern Europe.
Germany gets labor and market access.
Think of the counterfactual. No subsidies, no EU. Your currency at double today's value. A lot lower exports. And you'd probably still get to keep the shitskins and gypsies, thanks to auntie Merkel.
>basement of your mother's muslim husband.
I make a lot of money kid. I got a job, unlike you.
>I'd rather have a handful of sandwich hookers, than a few million kids reciting the quran while praying to mohammad.
At least our Quran kids will have jobs, unlike your plebs.
>Are you seriously butthurt about subsidies?
Yes, I am truly butthurt about paying you billions and billions in subsidies each year. Why the hell do we do that? Seriously, it makes zero sense. There is nothing we get back from it. Nothing.
It would be different if we were part of one nation. I am fine paying for Eastern German commiee poorfags. But why should I pay for Greeks? You guys hate us, we hate you. There is nothing we have in common. We could as well pay billions to North Korea, which would probably make more sense.
>Germany gets labor and market access.
So, America pay Mexico lots of money to get their low skilled labor? And America pays Japan to get market access?
>Think of the counterfactual. No subsidies, no EU.
BS, the EU would just be scaled back to a free trade zone. No more gibmees. Fuck gibmees.
>Your currency at double today's value.
Good, then we are richer.
> A lot lower exports.
So? Then at least we have more money to import shit like America does.
> And you'd probably still get to keep the shitskins and gypsies, thanks to auntie Merkel.
Yes, can't be avoided. Romanians and Greeks stick like glue to the gibmees culture of Germany.
>I make a lot of money kid
>kid
ayyy habibi
>our Quran kids will have jobs
as martyrs for the prophet?
>I am truly butthurt about paying you billions and billions in subsidies each year.
put some cream on your tushy
you'll eventually learn to deal with it
>But why should I pay for Greeks?
Because we tolerate your pathetic existence, just like everyone else in europe.
>our Quran kids
Mehmet, you just outed yourself.
Go fuck a goat, you mudslime piece of shit.
>another butthurt gercuck thread
Day in day out
>Greece
>Tolerating German existence
Let's be real here, if that were to end, what the fuck would your country do about it? Nothing.
>Because we tolerate your pathetic existence, just like everyone else in europe.
Not good enough. Wait until pic related takes over post-Merkel later this year. He is all about austerity. He will just say "Zee monezy for ze darn Greezzkz iz zuu muchz" and not pay anything any more. His favorite pasttime is to torture Greeks and see your fucked up economy fail.
>>another butthurt gercuck thread
>Day in day out
Austria, fucking Austria. Always the same. First you support Brexit because "uh uh, 350 gorrillion for the NHS each week" and then we say that we pay too much into the EU and you say "uh uh, the butthurt".
What's wrong with Aussies?
Thanks for your money, germanbros
> >They now suck above Euro 10bln on stock interests, and returning about Euro 2bln in subsidies.
> How about we send 0 subsidies and keep all purchased Czech assets?
As if you do not feed bees...?
There would be another revolution. Beside Czechout, all large asset's stocks would be nationalized...
(Anyhow I doubt, that we are too small player for this and will need to wait, until this happens globally, which will not be that far anyhow...)
>all large asset's stocks would be nationalized...
Yeah sure, because that would ever happen. Get real.
Why doesn't your fucked up country Checkout like yesterday?
>BS, the EU would just be scaled back to a free trade zone
You wish. Why would southern Europe want free trade with Germany on these kinds of terms? A free trade zone might work with the original EU 6 and a couple of others, maybe.
>So, America pay Mexico lots of money to get their low skilled labor? And America pays Japan to get market access?
America doesn't have market access in Japan, the nips are protectionist as fuck.
Cheap Mexican labor helps Ford compete against VW, Toyota, Hyundai and the coming Chinese flood. VW in turn uses cheap Czech labor at its Skoda unit, and gets components from its Easter European supply chain.
There are both benefits and costs to Germany from the current arrangement. You seem to think Germany can keep the benefits but not pay the costs. That depends on the other sides, not just on Germany.
>Why would southern Europe want free trade with Germany on these kinds of terms? A free trade zone might work with the original EU 6 and a couple of others, maybe.
Fine with us. People forget that Germany's budget surplus is principally due to trade with countries outside of the EU.
>America doesn't have market access in Japan, the nips are protectionist as fuck.
And yet German machinery sells like girlscout cakes with free girlscout pussy in Japan.
>VW in turn uses cheap Czech labor at its Skoda unit, and gets components from its Easter European supply chain.
We don't need to pay Czechia money to produce Skodas in Slovakia, m8.
>You seem to think Germany can keep the benefits but not pay the costs.
Yes, just like in the past. You do understand that this shit situation with us paying and others getting money only started 12 years ago, right?
Are you retarded or do you not understand economics?
A EU means a weaker currency, which benefits Germany exports, and hurts smaller nations, since they can't compete
End of the EU = small nations like Greece can adopt their own currencies and begin exporting better deals than the Germans. German currency is no longer artificially weak because of small eu nations, exports get hurt substantially
This takes away industry, production, and jobs from Germany. You pay the EU to keep them in, because if the EU ends, you must adopt a strong currency instead