The only innovation that capitalism drives is the innovation to come up more ways to trick people into paying more and...

The only innovation that capitalism drives is the innovation to come up more ways to trick people into paying more and more for shittier and shittier products and services.

The only innovation that socialism drives is the innovation to come up more ways to trick people into paying the political elite and professional welfare monkeys more and more money for doing nothing..

You're talking about social market capitalism, not socialism

Not to worry, the free market will fix it.

The only inspiration that existence drives is the inspiration to come up more ways to trick people into believing that having more means being better than other people.

>all those unironical communism/anti-capitalism threads for the last 3 days

heh nice one guys, you sure converted us

mind posting more of those EPIC pig memes haha? ;)

>You're talking about socialism, not socialism

no, that's the gubment getting in the way with regulations and taxes.

Came across this in another thread, anyone here long enough to have a context for this.

Andrew Jackson factoids:

>Survived 103 duels.

>Beat his would-be assassin with a cain until he had to be pulled back by senators because he was being too rough.

>In one duel he was shot, managed to raise his pistol and shoot the other duelist hitting him near his heart.

>KILLED THE NATIONAL BANKING SYSTEM.

>Defended New Orleans from 8000 redcoats with the help of MOTHERFUCKING PIRATES and FREED SLAVES. Sent redcoats retreating after suffering nearly 2100 casualties, killing every single senior officer, while only sustaining 13 casualties and 58 injuries.

>Orders and receives 1400lbs of MOTHERFUCKING CHEESE. Wife complains about the smell after 2yrs, invites a bunch of commoners over and hands out forks, 1400lb cheese wheel is gone in about 2hrs.

>Suposedly his parrot had to be removed from his funeral as it was swearing too much.

Ayyyyy! WRONG THREAD!

If that is only inovation capitalism brings, it is still one more than what socialism brings.

Andrew Jackson -pretty fucking awesome.

Trump's probably like him most out of all previous prezzies.

And women and minorities whined till they get him replaced on our money with some black tart.

I hear from my friends with kids in school that they are painting him as a racist rapist asshole. NICE huh? This genuinely angers me.

You're talking about state liberal social capitalism, not social market socialism.

Maybe in terms of capital gains, but in terms of everything else then socialism brings more

Jackson wouldn't want to be on our (((money))) anyway

state liberal social capitalism is still social market capitalism social democracy

> Shittier and shitter products and services.

Please explain how nearly every fucking product you can buy has not somehow improved in quality from 50 years ago.

Valid point

Define socialism.

Oh you.

Nobody will ever define socialism because if they did they would have to admit it was tried and failed over and over and over

What city is that? It soothes my autism quite well.

I hope to some day live in the paradise that is Venezuela.

Products improve with innovation, but the innovation doesn't come from capitalism. If no innovation takes place then the capitalists are going to do everything they can to milk as much profit as possible out of their shitty capital. You can see this in the real estate industry. No innovation has taken place in that industry for several decades. Houses still look the same and they're still built in the same way, so what the capitalists do is they invent new ways to inflate the prices so they can get more profit from their capital. It's still the exact same house in the exact same location, only now it's worth 7 times more now than it was 15 years ago.

bullshit edgelord, capitalism is responsible for your quality of life you hapless naive ingrate cunt

What kind of keyword do I have to use to look for pictures like the one in the OP? I tried aerial but it's not as far as OP's.

Any country that competes in the global economy is a state capitalist country, even if they call themselves socialists.

Wait, that layout seems familiar.

I agree capitalism is a broken system, but it's wrong to say capitalism isn't the driving factor behind the innovation of consumer technology and products.

Market competition makes sure companies invest a lot of money in being able to have the products with the best technology. Only a capitalist society would have secured the technological advance of cellphones for example.

It's La Plata.

>M-MUH INCENTIVES
FUCK OFF BOOTLICKERS

>paying more and more for shittier and shittier products and services.

you don't NEED them, you WANT them and make up any excuse to have them, then complain about how you just got screwed. Read this twice to confirm I'm not 'tricking' you.

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Pretty much all capital comes from the exploitation of others. It comes both from the exploitation of my dead ancestors and the exploitation of all the poor and stupid workers and consumers of today.

Search for, "Just pack me up like a sardine, bruh. I don't need no air or leg room"

Commie cunt.

You're right. Nobody needs a house or food or clothes or books or a computer or a stove or a washing machine

OP's a dirty commie ruskie exchange student in Finland, by the way. He's responsible for all the
>seize the means of productions
>do it
>now
threads.

>Market competition makes sure companies invest a lot of money in being able to have the products with the best technology.
That's where you're wrong. They don't create the best products they create the products with the most profit margin. Most products are absolute garbage

That's not me. I only make anti-capitalism threads here. I never shill for any alternative to capitalism either because I don't know any better alternative. I just really really hate capitalism

You come off as very ignorant on the subject, to be quite honest, familia. You'll hardly be taken serious, especially if you have to repeat yourself to make a point.

If that was the case, why would companies bother to move away from 3310-style phones? Also, competition guarantees companies sell their products at the lowest possible price.

Who else would spend money to advance technology?

He mad because Nokia failed. Why do you make a thread on something without actually knowing something? Fucktards like you are just as fucking awful as libtards.

>If that was the case, why would companies bother to move away from 3310-style phones?
Because of new technology? Technology that certainly didn't come just because of capitalism

>Who else would spend money to advance technology?
You engrave your ideas on a piece of wood and place it on the altar. Then you wait for your tribe elder to come out and take a look at it so he can ask his god if he should help you make your ideas a reality or not

Third way Fascist economy is superior.

>Technology that certainly didn't come just because of capitalism

Man, I'm just gonna shit myself now

>Technology that certainly didn't come just because of capitalism
Jesus.

That's Jew-pitalism.

Soviet.....Space...Program

This is absolutely fucking true.

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Fuck off, you commie cocksucker.

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Are you stupid? That's a very good example of market capitalism. The USA and Soviet Union are investing their recourses in a space program because it was essentially a competition between the two countries who has the best technology. Compare it to Samsung and Apple, both release new phones with better technology because it's the only way to survive on the market.

Where did you get a screen shot from my sim city game

The price of goods goes down over time in capitalistic societies when regulatory burdens don't increase production costs.

>but the innovation doesn't come from capitalism
Where does innovation come from, if not the drive for new products to sell on the free market?
>If no innovation takes place then the capitalists are going to do everything they can to milk as much profit as possible out of their shitty capital.
Their shitty capital that was the reason for the innovation in the first place, you mean?
>You can see this in the real estate industry. No innovation has taken place in that industry for several decades.

Kek. Are you an actual imbecile?

>Houses still look the same and they're still built in the same way,

In commieblock-Finland, perhaps.

>so what the capitalists do is they invent new ways to inflate the prices so they can get more profit from their capital.

Devious ways like 'scarcity', and 'consumer need', right?

> It's still the exact same house in the exact same location, only now it's worth 7 times more now than it was 15 years ago.

>'I am a literal imbecile that does not understand how the world works'

Why can most socialism threads be reduced to this conclusion?

>Soviet.....Space...Program

Communism has no problem with high profile and prestigious projects. People want to work on these and you have a surplus of labour, engineers in the west work for lower than industry standard wages if they are working on a space project.

The problem comes from boring consumer goods than no one wants to work on. Without the profit incentive these get ignored.

This is why the USSR had an amazing Space Program but could not build washing machines or cars.

>The only innovation that capitalism drives is the innovation to come up more ways to trick people into paying more and more for shittier and shittier products and services.


except for all objects created under Capitalism

CHYNA

My father has lived in the same house for about 30 years now, which costs him almost nothing, especially not if you consider the increase in value over time.. His Miele washing machine is almost as old as I am, his boat (Saga20) is older than I am, his computer cost about €200,- because he cannot into computers anyway and only uses it to get me or my brother to do his online banking for him, and to blast shitty German lady singers on youtube at full volume... His books he mostly gets from the public library and second hand.

Nobody is forcing you to buy new shit, expensive shit or low quality shit.. That's the beauty of free market capitalism. Sounds a lot like you just cannot control your urges.
>B-but you have to buy shit regardless
The alternative being?

>I don't know a better alternative
>But I HATE capitalism

Sounds like you just need to kill yourself and be done with it.. Isn't suicide like Finlands #1 product anyway?

It's La Plata Argentina brasil friend

>Devious ways like 'scarcity', and 'consumer need', right?
From artificially lowering interest rates, which devalues the currency and causes massive capital flight so people don't lose their savings. They spend their savings on mortgages for an overvalued house in a housing bubble that's about to burst any second. That's just one of the ways they increase the value of their shitty capital and FORCE people to buy them

> what is increased demand from growing population
>what are solar panels and more energy efficient ways to improve houses
>what is investing in and remodeling a home
>what is inflation

No wonder all the socialist shitholes have terrible, prison-like houses. Solid concrete box is all you need comrade.

That's not what I asked, USA friend.

It's true but socialism would make the products even worse.

Only if you socialism with subhumans

La Plata, i live there

>From artificially lowering interest rates,
Who do this? The holders of capital?

>which devalues the currency and causes massive capital flight so people don't lose their savings.

Moderate inflation is good for the average consumer though, not to mention larger institutions like banks and states.

>They spend their savings on mortgages for an overvalued house in a housing bubble that's about to burst any second.

Bubbles are a possibility, but not the norm. Depending on where you are, houses are actually a scarce commodity. Especially if you live in the most crowded country in Western Europe, like we do.

>That's just one of the ways they increase the value of their shitty capital and FORCE people to buy them

First you where whining about how everybody needs a house, and how you're whining about how people are 'forced' to buy houses? If if that's true, who the fuck cares if we've already established that people need houses?

>Who do this? The holders of capital?
The federal reserve. The bankers are the capital holders, so yes.

>Moderate inflation is good for the average consumer though, not to mention larger institutions like banks and states.
Inflation is horrible because it devalues savings and forces people to seek capital to invest their money in, which creates bubbles and in turn even more inflation. Inflation is only good for the people who are going to turn a profit from the bubbles.

>Bubbles are a possibility, but not the norm. Depending on where you are, houses are actually a scarce commodity. Especially if you live in the most crowded country in Western Europe, like we do.
All bubbles are intentional and carefully planned. It's one of the great capitalist innovations I spoke about earlier.

>First you where whining about how everybody needs a house, and how you're whining about how people are 'forced' to buy houses? If if that's true, who the fuck cares if we've already established that people need houses?
You're forced to invest all of your savings in something that will decrease in value after the bubble bursts. Also there's a difference between getting a home to live in and buying an overpriced house in a bubble that's about to burst just because everybody tells you that it's a good investment even though it's not

>The federal reserve. The bankers are the capital holders, so yes.

The federal reserve is the state though, for all intents and purposes. Are you saying you should leave the system to the free market entirely?

>m-muh bubbles

You sound paranoid to be honest. Just buy a house m8, you'll be fine. If the worst turns worst, at least you can live in that...

Are you fucking kidding me?! The federal reserve is private

>You sound paranoid to be honest. Just buy a house m8, you'll be fine. If the worst turns worst, at least you can live in that...
It's not about me. I'm well taken care of by mummy and the state. I care about other people being exploited and entire generations beings devolved to the level of stupid and subservient consumer cattle

Fucking judeo-capitalist pigs

I will send an army of leftists against you.

>an army of leftists
top kek

>People are stupid

No doubt. But that's hardly the fault of capitalism.. What would you propose instead? Oh, I forgot. You weren't into the whole alternatives thing.

You're no match against my army of useful idiots. All I have to do is write some bad things about capitalism on reddit and all of the sudden I have recruited 5000 more useful idiots who are willing to die for my cause

The capitalist process is what's creating these creatures, replacing their cultures with a degenerate consumer culture and keeping them alive so that they can be used for cheap labor and for spending welfare bux as stupid consumerists