How did USA lose the war to vietnameze farmers?

How did USA lose the war to vietnameze farmers?

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Faggot Democrats doing what they do best, breaking promises and getting people killed.

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because americans are fat niggers lol

Helis aren't great when your opponent hides in holes on the ground.

They were just too good.

Why's he wearing 2 hats?

5th Column elements in the homeland.

If public opinion had been fully behind the war the Yanks would've napalmed all of Vietnam until there wasn't a single Vietcong-supporting gook left.

Easy - the Vietnamese were volunteers, and the Yanks were conscripts.

Vietnam STRONK

Multiple reasons, off the top of my head:

- Lack of U.S. public support for the war as it dragged on (expected a quick victory, media influence etc.)
- Effective use of guerrilla tactics by the VC, opting for quick suprise attacks rather than drawing out long fights against an enemy with superior firepower
- Foreign aid from China/USSR
- Frequent rotation of U.S. troops, along with the draft, lead to a large majority of troops having none or very little combat experience
- Use of psychological warfare (e.g. removing dead bodies during battles to make sure the U.S. didn't have the pleasure of seeing their dead opponents) greatly affected morale
- Vietnamese civilian support for U.S. intervention was affected due to their tactics (e.g mass carpet bombing, chemical spraying of rice fields)

>oh shit we're being invaded
>ok, but only volunteers in our army
Are you serious bong? They were fighting whether they wanted or not.

liberals

The Americans were actually presented with several opportunity to effectively end the war within a single day.

They were effectively denied because their politicians decided to be a bunch of limp-wristed faggots who'd rather cripple their own soldiers than win the war.

They fought the war with not one but both hands behind their backs and that is why they lost.

Even the NVA and Vietcong were baffled by the US being tactically retarded.

because we were the terrorists, and they were defending their homeland.

go read Machiavelli's The Prince, dumbass

they would never, ever, have accepted our rule.

>move to new neighborhood
>see some little dickhead beating up the autistic kid who can't get his shit together
>go kick dickhead's ass
>only stop because girlfriend says its not worth it
>you leave the neighborhood
>dickhead kicks autist's ass again
>this means dickhead kicked your ass

This

People always have a choice, and Vietnam's government at that time didn't really have spare thoughts and means for the people who didn't want to fight for their country. Being a coward wouldn't be punished by the government then, however they would be ridiculed or even beaten to death by their fellow countrymen.

Because the US Government wasn't in it to win it. They punished US soldiers for burning villages. They allowed an insurgency to run rampant for fear of killing civilians. They were too afraid to destroy North Vietnamese infrastructure because they might accidentally kill a Russian or Chinese diplomat.

The combined effect of these conditions along with the extreme lack of support for the conflict made the war practically unwinnable. The Vietnam war was never a war the US Government wanted to win anyway. It occurred merely to show the Soviets that we would fight their influence anywhere it cropped up. Even if we lost over and over again they'd go broke before us. Lo' and behold, they went broke decades later and we're still here.

They just wanted it more.

It was a war of two halves.

For whatever reason the US military adopted a strategy where they refuse to stay put and territory they win. What happens is the military comes in kicking ass and killing lots of people but instead of securing the area or guarding it they'll pack up and move on to the next target which allows the enemy to come right back in and reclaim the lost territory. It's a great big game of wack-a-mole and all the enemy has to do is retreet and come back later. The US kills lots of people and expends a lot of resources but they don't gain anything.

The US has been doing the same thing since Vietnam, this is why Iraq and Afghanistan were such spectacular failures. Nobody wants to adopt a stand and guard philosophy because that leaves troops vulnerable which will lead to more causalities, but it's something that must be done to win a war.

Ask Ghost when his show come up

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because the pawns of american imperialists couldn't handle the revolutionary spirit of the glorious Vietnamese communists. they went home and cried about it, wah wah im so sad i murdered countless innocents. fuck vietnam war veterans. bunch of pussies.

we boosted are K/D and rage quit

One job, you had one job.

I think Vietnam could have been the Japan of South East Asia. Need a source for this, but I heard Vietnam before the war was more developped than South Korea.

Lose < have a KD ratio of 10 to 1. Sure whatever you say

The Democrat controled US government didn't want to win in 74.
The Democrats broke the promise to supply military aid to SV after the 73 Paris Peace Accord.

They allowed the murderous commies to overrun the nation and murder millions. All the while the anti war dems brokered the deaths into political capital.

I hate the Democrats and their supporters so much.

They where too qt

Want revenge on Elitist Traitors?

Expose Central Banking and Money Printing. The Central Bank is the major advantage that they have and the little guy does not have.

Spread the word to veterans, low level bankers, working men.

Tell people of all races and creeds. This ensures that the Elite can't replace their workforce with new workers who don't know the score.

They will shriek with horror when they realize their primary control method is well known by the people who do the physical work.

Then the fun begins!

We needed North Vietnam as a buffer between our territories and china to avoid all-out war with them since we knew they were powerful and unstable, we could wait them out. We helped South Vietnam, trained them, crippled their enemy, and left with the idea that they could maintain the status quo without us. We were wrong.

Somehow our faggot leaders forgot China wasn't going to leave. China reinforced North Vietnam (Chinese soldiers pretending to be Vietnamese) as soon as we left and subjugated South Vietnam.

Basically the same thing that happened in Korea, except China wanted a "buffer" between themselves and Japan (our allies) so they didn't strike as hard. I know it's retarded, Japan is bordering coastal China anyways, but that's how geopolitics works: dumb ideas equally shared by powerful people.

>We helped South Vietnam, trained them, crippled their enemy, and left with the idea that they could maintain the status quo without us. We were wrong.

The US government went back on the promise to supply weapons to the SV, leaving them without weapons to defend themselves from the Chinese supplied NVs.

well unfortunately all they had were tanks, airplanes, bombs, and all that other stuff that you can't fight the government because of. so since vietnam couldn't fight the US, then there was no fight to win, so the US lost. naturally

>How did USA lose the war to COMMIE vietnameze farmers?
FYP

>that entire post

I'm sorry, what?

Rules of engagement

because "a mouse can eat an elephant, if it takes one bite a day."

I believe that is how one of the Viet Cong put it.

>US casualties 58,2209
>US wounded 303,644
wow so does the bully just telepathically shoot two of your fingers off or how does that part work in your analogy?

>you leave the neighborhood
uh you mean you literally flee south as the bully is chasing you
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oh and don't forget you also are defending your first beating of the dickhead without any evidence whatsoever that you had moral justification to get involved
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident#Distortion_of_the_event

I believe it. Dems a shit. I wouldn't even be surprised if they used inside agents and media control to turn the Republican party from decent hard workers of the 1950s into the faggots they are today.

didn't you know, you can't fight the government? they have tanks, planes, drones...

went back on the FINAL promise, of a few hundred million. AFTER throwing over 2 billion at the problem AND with US troops as the benefactors of those funds, not the slopes.

>its the americans stick their nose and get involved in wars that has nothing to do with them episode

>US 1960 Population: 180.7 million
>US casualties: 58,315
>Vietnam 1960 Population: 34.74 million
>NV/VC casualties: 444,000

Yeah they sure showed us.

Read Art of War. Strength isn't everything. They were simply in there element and simply cared far more than our drug addled soldiers.

Straw because he's Asian, baseball to keep the sun out of his eyes

Commies aren't going to kill themselves you know.

Oh wait...

They won in the end though didn't they

You're right, we should just leave you Israelis to get ass raped by sand niggers.

tl;dr They outsmarted our troops.

not really because we won the Cold war

This.

>derp derp, let's live right in the middle of an area where everyone wants us dead
>what can go wrong?

idiots

The same thing is going on in the desert today. We could have put an end to this shit a long time ago but we can't

1.) We weren't actually in a declared war, so that limited our resources and commitment.

2.) Mainstream media recorded daily events for the first time broadcasting the war into the homes of every day Americans

3.) The Tet Offensive showed Americans that right when we thought it was almost over, it wasn't, and that this would be a longer conflict than already assumed

4.) Public opinion caused Congress to withdraw support for the war and we began bringing troops home.

5.) After we had pulled out most of our troops, the North took Saigon. Gee I wonder why they were able to do it.

tl;dr Stupid hippies and career politicians forced it to end before our job was done, militarily we were winning but the war was lost due to public opinion and political pressure at home

>went back on the FINAL promise, of a few hundred million. AFTER throwing over 2 billion at the problem AND with US troops as the benefactors of those funds, not the slopes.

After winning a decisive victory and heaving a peace accord signed (for what good that does making deals with commies), having the position of strength and being able with material support to continue as a nation free from communism.

In 73 the war was effectively won, in 74 the Democrats wanted to spend money on niggers rather than keeping a nation free from militarized communism, thinking the victory would be sustained without any further effort.

The dems had been stabbing the US and SV in the back from at least the 68 Tet offensive when they conspired with the News media to make it look like a NV victory rather than a massive failure that broke their war effort.

They be sneaky little bastards

If you kill the viets, they win

Politicians.

Gee, thanks France

I'm really glad we got involved and helped and continued after you ran away so we could get all of the blame years down the line

There is a McDonalds in Hanoi.

We didn't

You can't win a war in a foreign country when the civilians are against you. It was unwinnable from the start, ALL of North Vietnam was against us and there were even South Vietnam citizens against us,

That's weird, I expected the U.S. embassy to be in Ho Chi Minh City.

China and Russia supplied them with free guns, food, ammo, clothes, etc.

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Alright, that's funny, gotta give it to the brit.

Mainly this.
And the casualties (350 000 families concerned).