>With the object of getting as much as possible out of its colony, the Portuguese Crown involves Brazil in a network of laws which strangle the young country's powerful arteries of world trade
>The government prohibits the manufacture of textile goods, so as to force Brazil to order its finished products from Lisbon.
>In 1775, a decree forbids the production of soap and the distillation of native alcohol, to force the consumers to drink more Portuguese wine.
>The governor denies entrance to his palace to anyone wearing clothes not made of Portuguese material
>forbidden to plant rice
>denied the right to print newspaper and books
>No Brazilian is allowed to buy a foreign ship
>And nothing is more illustrative of the inferior quality of the cultural material sent to Brazil by the Portuguese, compared with that of the French and Dutch, than that we possess, with the exception of the Jesuit letters, no literary account of the beginning of Brazil.
>Within a few years the French, on the other hand, had already presented to the world the work on "France Antarctique"
Nothing personnel
Dealing with monkeys we had to follow the ancient rules and guarantee our blood and cultural superiority, you were just a mere colony from where we extracted things.
Why don't you realize that you're talking about your people? you know... the one who came to colonize the place. Jesus Christ...
>your people
blcks, amerindians and mixed. my people? no they were not.
Who came to colonize this place? The thing I posted is from the beginning of the country. Did Amerindians self-colonize the place? Man, you're really fucking dumb. It hurts.
Pathetic child, your description was biased but still it was the reality of colonialism, why do you think the burgers got indepedant from england? because tax abuse and everybody knows that. why are you surprised. Portugal saw Brazil as just another colony to extract things, same with angola, mozambique etc.
>beginning of the country
>1775
lmao, let's talk about dumb
Ignore him, he tries his best.
>1775
Yup, all the land was controlled by the slaves and their offspring during slavery times.
Why don't you rotten brain understand that Portuguese people didn't come here and control amerindians. They settled here and tried to use amerindians as slaves and they didn't work out then after that they brought african slaves. Later more portuguese people came because of a gold rush.
Have you ever read a fucking history book in your life?
>your description was biased
if you're talking about the OP that's from a book by Zweig called brazil, land of the future
You're the chimp because you're dumber than a bag of bricks and you don't know shit. Shut the fuck up, you dumb motherfucker.
My iq is higher than yours. I'm 100% sure of that fact. You probably read 2 books in your life.
The odds are on my side for obvious reasons. Like we saw above rotfl
Fuck the odds. I've already seen that you're a fucking brainlet.
Specially that part where you 'understood' that you were just a colony, that was treated like what? imagine - a colony, stay surprised once again.
The purpose of a colony is gaining access to raw materials or a strategic location. Most colonial powers restricted their colonies from building industries or trading with anyone other than the Fatherland. Mongs on this Laotian paper mache forum think that Brits were the best colonizers, but you can´t let your colonies develop because if they do develop industry and have educated people they gain power and rebel against you. The best way is to keep the population of the colonies smart enough that they can do manual labor and run some essential tasks. If they develop too much then they fuck you over. The Brits fucked up with their North American colonies and it cost them their empire.
Thanks for the input, maybe this time the brazilian will understand it.
Portugal really didn't used well the opportunities it got. It could still have held a liberal United Kingdom with Brazil, and they would keep using Brazil's resources to develop Portugal... but MUH COLONIAL PACT.
>look because colonization has always a bad interest it means that all colonization is the same. Ok? there are no differences.
I should go and copy the part of the book where they tell the difference between the dutch and the portuguese but I'm feeling lazy right now.
>And nothing is more illustrative of the inferior quality of the cultural material sent to Brazil by the Portuguese, compared with that of the French and Dutch, than that we possess, with the exception of the Jesuit letters, no literary account of the beginning of Brazil.
>Within a few years the French, on the other hand, had already presented to the world the work on "France Antarctique"
>tell the difference between the dutch and the portuguese
Imagine then, you would be a enormous Suriname, or an huge Haiti? it would be great.
>It could still have held a liberal United
No. The same way angola, or mozambique are not part of portugal, brazil isn´t either. Empires are over and it fells good.
the dutch were prepering a new homeland, it's a complicated issue (things changed after the Eighty Years' War)
the british colonials were also making a new home as they have been outcast from england
the french were odd and poorly administrated, hard to consider them colonizers in the traditional sense
the spaniards were force relocated to the new world as to weaken the nobility in spain, also military men were given large amounts of land (they became de-facto warlords)
the portuguese went there not because they had been outcast nor because their home was in danger, but only to further enrich their house (not everyone could go overseas, until spaniards made us change that during the union)
the problem was precisely that with the iberian union, the focus of the portuguese crown was forced to change and Brazil became a thing.
Needless to say this change of aproach led to most of the crisis and problems that arose afterwards (from guarani being more widespread than portuguese to the slave revolts many years later).
You don´t seem to understand colonies. Brazil was a great colony because Portugal gained wealth from it. I would definitely say that as a colony Brazil was a hundred times better than the thirteen North American colonies.
Dude, people like you are ridiculous. I hate when I have to argue with cynical people like you. The USA was build with a philosophy in mind. It was build to be a great thing from the beginning. Our country was like "we get there we get thing we give thing" no purpose just to extract shit.
Not true, the only philiosophy the thirteen colonies followed were money or the thought of getting wealthy real quick
I don't know why some Brazilians are hung up on Portuguese colonialism. Like wise, I don't know why some Brazilians fetishize the Portuguese.
Why is that so? Aren't there accounts from portuguese explorers, conquistadores, or the first settlers?
Good question, everytime i see a thing about Portugal there is a brazilian behind it, questioning something or messing around, it's ridiculous.
I will not even discuss the rest
because every piece of civilization brazil had or dozens of other regions t portuguese conquerors or discovers were, it was built by them, not only the business points (feitorias), but roads, cities, schools, churches.
And when i look to suriname or indonesia- dutch colony, haiti - french colony, jamaica, gambia - english colony i don´t see any of their alucionations of cultre.
Portugal sent more than 4 million niggers to Brazil.
Portugal had less than 2 million Portuguese living in Portugal.
How was Brazil colonised by Portuguese again?
>The USA was build with a philosophy in mind.
The USA was built by rebels who wanted to have more rights and wealth. The fact that such a country was created means that the Brits failed with that colony
>It was build to be a great thing from the beginning
The colonies were built to get rich, spread the protestant religion and fuck with Spains colonies who they were at war with.
>Our country was like "we get there we get thing we give thing" no purpose just to extract shit.
Name one colony where extracting shit and getting rich weren´t the main reasons.
ITT: Portuguese STILL trying to claim they are white to the point they deny colonizing Brazil
This is hilarious.
>Muh Portuguese oppressor
Who seriously cares? The Jesuits and the Catholic Church did more to develop this place than they did. And no Hue has the right to complain when they decided to drop everything they've been taught to become wanton hedonists and marxists.
出去。
No, we are aborigenal australians, we were in australia when you arrived behind bars..
the two things are unrelated, five european powers held colonies in the guiana:
>the french (french guiene)
>the brits (Guiana)
>the dutch (suriname)
>the portuguese (brazilean guiana)
>the spanish (colombian guyana)
I seriously doubt anyone would consider the locals white, despite thier european colonizers.
That being said, we are iberians, just like spaniards and sardinians, culturaly we are latins (kinda). Not very relevant for this discussion, though
Portuguese never colonized this country. They looted instead. The white people you see here are only made of Spanish, Italians, Germans
>They looted instead
Exactly we never colonized any country with only our own people, because we never had the numbers to do it. The only place where we did it was azores and madeira that's why they are like us, fine tier.
Spread the word by friend, forget we exist
He blames Portugal for trying to "get as much as possible out of its colony". How is that any different from any colony in history? That is the main purpose of a colony. Nobody would have colonized Brazil if they had not wanted to get rich. He makes no clear point.
You're arguing that the Portuguese people did a good job because they fucked us over. The point of the OP is that the Portuguese people choked the young country from developing at every opportunity. Who gives a fuck if that is what a colony should be (your claim)? The point is that this fucked the country over in the beginning.
Now let's see the dutch
>Dutch know how to organize. They don't leave the immigration and administration to casual and lawless elements; and instead of the riff-raff of their country they send over the best and most carefully picked men.
>Moritz brings with him a whole staff of experts-engineers, botanists, astronomers, scientists- to colonize and europeanize the country. and nothing is more illustrative of the inferior quality of the culture material sent
I'm going to explain to you.A colony is built because it's free territory and there are a couple of benefits to it compared to conquering well-established nations like not having to worry about independence movements based on nationalism .
The independence movements in the american continent were inspired by the french revolution and american revolution,it was an idea that got ingrained into the minds of the colonial people in this continent and made them think"Huh,imagine if we became independent,we would have all this for us and wouldn't have to listen to the orders of someone from the other side of the sea".Portugal sent their court to Brazil and established their government there.After the Napoleonic wars ended the portuguese court order the return of the king,who came but left his child behind.Portugal wanted to make Brazil a colony again(which at the time was a kingdom) and the people and politicians there were divided on the issue so it had to be the retarded king to declare independence and them self-intitled himself as emperor of brazil(which is funny because they managed to have less land after getting independence by losing the war in cisplatina).
The retarded "emperor"then said that if his father,the king of portugal returned,he would hand over to him the empire of brazil to which our king(his father) was like:"nigger are tou dumb?"
The excuse they give is pretty fucking retarded"oh,my taxes,oh our political representation",my friend,the independence was done by opportunistic portuguese.It wasn't a movement inspired by the republicanism of USA with the aim of bringing power to the people by the people,it was just a plot to protect the interests and power of the nobility in Brazil.
There is more honor in the independence of the south american spanish ex-colonies than in Brazil.
the OP has a mix of decrees from diferent times which IIRC were not in effect at the same time at no point and claims portuguese were bad colonizers because of that (of all the reasons...).
estonian user explained what a colony is and how diferent from a territory or province.
I'd say it's pretty relevant, particularely when OP expected brazil to be treated better than some regions of continental portugal were during the same time period
>Dutch know how to organize. They don't leave the immigration and administration to casual and lawless elements; and instead of the riff-raff of their country they send over the best and most carefully picked men.
>Moritz brings with him a whole staff of experts-engineers, botanists, astronomers, scientists- to colonize and europeanize the country. and nothing is more illustrative of the inferior quality of the culture material sent to Brazil by the Portuguese, compared with that of the French and Dutch, than that we possess, with the exception of the Jesuit letters, no literary account of the beginning of Brazil.
>Within a few years the French, on the other hand, had already presented to the world the work on "France Antarctique"
This is fucking retard - OP, you're really describing what is a colony.
>Portuguese people choked the young country
It was never to be a coutnry, That' the point.
Don't you see that you were trash in the same country compared to other ones that tried to colonize here?
again, the dutch were preparing a plan B, do you realize what it is to be betwen the two major powers of your continent and with no natural defenses to dissuade invasion?
the dutch tried to colonize the new world, but if you check their activities in india and indochina, they did the same we and the brits did - plunder, exploit and dominate trade
Tell me a dutch ex-colony that speaks dutch.
Suriname
What's your point? Lets say if they agree to it. What the hell changes? Absolutely nothing.
>Don't you see that you were trash in the same country?
I was always a descendant of a serf/farmer.
Portuguese empire due to its low population had to ship everyone including the ones in prison and shiet plus manning the other feitorias. If you got the "thrash", sorry. But we don't have population for everything.
>like Suriname and Indonesia both dutch colonies -third world countries like always.
Brazil was never a country.Transforming it into a kingdom was done out of absolute necessity so that the empire could function during the napoleon wars(the spanish king was arrested and their colonies soon fucked off).
I don't see why you don't understand the fact that your independence was done by the a fucking king,the high class and nobility in general,it was not a popular effort.
The portuguese courts wanted Brazil to be turned a colony again and the governors and other politicians there that had power were afraid of losing their office/job and wanted independence because of that.
little do you know dutch bookeepers were hired by portuguese crown ever since the expulsion of the jews. They did fuck us over after we lost connection to india during the iberian union.
Portugal did not have the manpower not the slight interest in creating a new portugal like the dutch or the curonians did. All colonies were old-school colonies: large scale economic entreprises, generaly undertaken by private interests who payed the "imperial tax" (we still do that with suggar and tobaco)
>moving goalposts
suriname aparently speaks dutch, which makes sense since it was under their control for a very long time. It is also full of loos, but who cares?
that discussion is well beside the point
Are there Portuguese x Brazilian gay porn?
Americans are always bottom with Britbongs.
>Americans are always bottom with Britbongs
How do you know this? And why are you curious about this:
>Are there Portuguese x Brazilian gay porn?
This.The only actual portuguese colonies were The Azores and Madeira archipelagos.The rest were just places where the portuguese sailors would go to rape natives and black woman.Cape Verde is a literal rape island where 100% of the population has at least 1 portuguese ancestor.We would come there and rape them on the streets,on the kennels,on the boats,etc.Thw law of the church rarely applied to those places.
What a dumb question. It's obvious he watches it.
I'm not aware of any
If one goes by what you're saying one is forced to conclude that the Portuguese are savages.
Did you forget that Azores and Madeira and mainland south had slaves? Marquis de Pombal after banning importation to mainland only a fews years he banned in those archipelagos, Nova Ordem Social friend.
And it would be a good comment.But the same was done in Brazil after independence.In fact,slavery was abolished first in the portuguese empire than in brazil
It would be hot as fuck, but sadly no. Portugal is so small and irrelevant they don't have gay porn actors.
But there is Brazilian x Spanish gay porn.
Search for Diego Lauzen, Wagner Vittoria and Flex Xtremmo
>madeira and azores
also alentejo
after the moor enslaved died of (they weren't keen on reproducing for some reason) the whole region was slowly populated with serf from northern fiefs
literaly everyone with power did it.
greeks did it with their eastern med colonies
carthaghe did it with west med colonies (namely iberia)
romans did it with nubia, dacia, etc
arabs did it with a fuckton of places, sahelian africa being the most glaring example
iranians did it with baloch and afgan lands, also india and arabia
china did it with all their neighbours
all euros did it with the old world colonies (the english indian trade company and the dutch VoC were particularly brutal)
the list goes on...
Gay porn of ethnic tensions or rivalry are hot as fuck.
Did you forget that Amsterdam, London, Seville, Bristol, Liverpool, Marseille all had slaves market. and like in Portugal they were shipped back to the colonies or died. and you are talking with another dude.
Is Czech hunter fake or real?
How do you think who settled in Ribeira do sado and Coruche?
Obvious fake. Some are well known porn actors, retard.
He fully intended to make his Mauritzstad his crowning achievement in colonizing though, the Dutch (WIC) have no merit whatsoever, considering they had Maurits go back precisely due to his spending in the city and not shipping as much money as possible to the Netherlands. Why are you so upset?
Oh si, a village of 30 people, migrants like the other's.
not OP but I think the VERY LEAST Portugal could have done for us was making good use of the riches they got from here.
>30 people, migrants like the other's.
How do I know that you aren't one of them?
>of 30 people
30 people now. Some of them probably went to some industrialised areas near it - It would be great good having them kept in the same place to know who is who. Who is Carolina Patrocinio / Rita Pereira tier who is real one like Northerners .
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It's a shame we don't have statistics about how many came here.
>Carolina Patrocinio / Rita Pereira tier
And Cristiano Ronaldo tier
I wonder how retard can you be to buy all the traps that they give you.
There are a lot of mutts in those regions.
>Rita Pereira
She is not ethnic portuguese her father is from angola, why are you so dumb you can´t observe obvious things.
Why are you posting immigrants, José Castelo Branco is from Goa (via mozambique) came afther the 1974, immigrants, he is even cousin of ACosta.
| >Who is Carolina Patrocinio / Rita Pereira/ Cristiano Ronaldo tier
>She is not ethnic portuguese
Exactly my point. How I do know who is mixed or not? Some are evident like her.
How do you know? are you blind too? or just retarded, they are immigrants, that arrived in the past 40 years with their parents or whatever.
Explain Ronaldo then.
Pardon the sperging but Brazil only became a thing in 1822. Calling any pseudostate(or pseudostates) that existed before that date Brazil is presentism.
que merda é esta a falarem inglês ? Se estás mal, muda-te
Why are moortuguese STILL insecure about being moors? Easiest fucking group to infuriate on the internet, literally stupider than Americans.
We are suebi
>land of the future
isn't ronaldo part cape verdean