Why do you support wage slavery?

Why do you support wage slavery?

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I don't support excessive rent-seeking. But "freedom from wage slavery" doesn't mean "has no job but still has a house and nice things," you fucking faggot.

just rob faggot stupid faggot

Because some people are too fucking stupid, lazy, and pathetic to better themselves, and thus deserve what they get

I dont feel remorse for a slave who shackles himself

Because I'm the one enslaving people.

Nigger we have more disposable income and free time than ever.

You just choose to waste it on bullshit.

I don't support it I just have bills to pay.

>Your labors are an act of self-preservation
Wow, you mean people have to work to survive!?!?

In the "real world" people hunted or labored for their food and shelter. Libshits should be thankful that they were born in the current year rather than in the past, or they would have to do actual work for once instead of collecting welfare checks.

It's a foreign concept to lefties.

Life is slavery. Without my 9-5 job, I'd have to work to provide myself shelter, food, etc. to survive. There's no avoiding it. If you don't like it, just off yourself. Or try to get dem NEETbux and leech off the excess wealth created by us wageslaves and capitalism.

even minimum wage is still like twice as much as a person needs to sustain his "food and shelter".
The rest could be spend however they like. Its just that most people are retarded and spend all their money on better food/shelter or other consumer products

If you're on welfare this is true, but save for the pre-unionized industrial age there has never been a point in American history where so much work has led to so little gain for the majority of workers.

Agreed, but there's a huge difference between working for money then giving said money to a corporation for food. At least when you're hunting, your success is dependent entirely on your skills and the drive to survive.

I don't really experience that drive at work.

Because I'm the master

Also this fuck off socialist piece of shit

So little gain? If you are living in the West today, you're have a quality of life better than 99.9999999% of people who have ever lived.

We have so much excess wealth and free time compared to any society at any point in history. Only royalty and the few wealthy men had it better than the average ungrateful liberal shitstain does now.

Nigger what the fuck? I'm a socialist? I'm saying that these liberal faggots should realize how easy they have it compared to literally anyone else in history.

The reason slavery was morally repulsive wasn't that slaves don't have a chance to amass wealth, but rather that they couldn't choose who they worked for.

The poor will always be poor, whether slave or free, but truly repressive conditions only exist when an employee cannot quit his job.

I'm pretty sure that slavery is expecting other people to produce food, housing, and clothing for you for free.

He's calling the first person he replied a socialist piece of shit read his post again

In the times before civilization, pretty much the entirety of human labor was devoted to hunting dangerous game and building crude walls and shelters to shield themselves from the unforgiving environment and predators. Was that slavery too?

you make no sense.

>We have so much excess wealth and free time
Eh, wrong.

We have more shit, but we have less free time now than our peasant ancestors did by a long way. We do have it better than during the industrial revolution, but if you think about the of a peasant, what is there to do when you're waiting for the crops to grow? Not a lot. They worked very hard and there's always general maintenance stuff to do like keeping fences up or re-thatching roofs and so on, but nothing like our forty-hour work week. Peasants worked when there was work to be done.

>The labouring man will take his rest long in the morning; a good piece of the day is spent afore he come at his work; then he must have his breakfast, though he have not earned it at his accustomed hour, or else there is grudging and murmuring; when the clock smiteth, he will cast down his burden in the midway, and whatsoever he is in hand with, he will leave it as it is, though many times it is marred afore he come again; he may not lose his meat, what danger soever the work is in. At noon he must have his sleeping time, then his bever in the afternoon, which spendeth a great part of the day; and when his hour cometh at night, at the first stroke of the clock he casteth down his tools, leaveth his work, in what need or case soever the work standeth.

>James Pilkington, Bishop of Durham, ca. 1570

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Wrong person I meant to reply to

If I wanted to live in a shanty, have access to 16th century medical care and technology, etc. I could probably get by only working 5-10 hours a week too.

I think 40 hours a week is a fair tradeoff for living in modern society.

Doesn't matter, the original claim was wrong.

You're forgetting two things

>Difficulty of work

Working in the fields as a peasant is much much harder than sitting in a cushy chair in an air conditioned office staring at a computer screen.

>payoff for work

Peasants lived in houses probably the size of your bedroom, ate the same shit every day (pre-global trade era) and had shit medical care. I mean today we can fucking open our phone, push a few buttons and within 15 minutes have a large pizza, breadsticks and 2 liters of drink at our doorstep. That is something that only kings and queens could dream about in the past.

>You're forgetting two things
No I'm not.

The claim was that we work less hours and we don't.

>difficulty of work
Only relevant if you move from one to the other. If you've been a peasant all your life you have no concept that your work is hard, only that it is your work.

>payoff for work
See above.

Nobody was walking around in the feudal ages shooting themselves because the work was so hard and the payoff so low, because nobody realised that the work was hard and the payoff low because that was how they lived. And, while doing so, they worked less hours.

Wage slavery is putting people into so much debt that they're forced to work with little gain.
Entrepreneurs don't want this and would rather everybody has lots of money to spend on gadgets.

Jews, I mean bankers... are the only people who want wage slaves.

>Working in the fields as a peasant is much much harder than sitting in a cushy chair in an air conditioned office staring at a computer screen

working in the fields is also trivially easy and can be done by trained animals while most IT jobs require years and years of highly specialized training and education

So get a new job

Commies are dumb as shit.

Before capitalism, that's all people did, spent their whole lives working to provide food & shelter for themselves and their immediate family. Only through capitalism and specialization has man even had such a concept as "surplus labor".

And fuck this shit anyway, because it should read 'I spent the entirety of MUH EARNINGS on food, shelter, weed, booze, lottery tickets, useless trash, swag, and pussy, and now I don't have anything left because I'm a fucking idiot who can't plan for the future and is ruled by my immediate wants, and like an idiot I think that a failed ideology will be the solution to that problem.'

>I majored in liberal arts, the post.
If your dont have any oppurtunity for advancement then you are either at the height of your career, need a real job, or are too stupid to be considered for any form of promotion.
Your post is bullshit because even those fags with ten kids and only one 7$ an hour job can afford to waste money because you're too lazy and incompetent to attempt to stop wasteful welfare spending.

>Nobody is stopping you from hunting and gathering your own food and water, nor building your own home and sustaining yourself.
>NO ITS SLAVERY!

What the fuck do these people think work is, its just a means to make your life a little easier, nothing fucking stops you from being self sustaining, you wanted that Iphone, now pay for it fucker.

As well, working in the fields is exhausting, but only done for a few weeks every year - the rest of the year is maintenance and finding other things to do.

>nothing fucking stops you from being self sustaining

State and federal laws do.

From banning the collection of rainwater to property taxes for land.

doesn't slavery mean owning a person and denying him all human rights and like, not giving him money for his work?

>just rob faggot
I'm not a nigger

The concept is exactly that, all of your wage goes towards living expenses leaving you nothing.

It basically only exists in 3rd world countries and Japan.

Er, I can tell you've never lived or worked on a farm.There's always SOMETHING to do. Be it tending to the fields and crops and looking for pests ; there's taking care of the animals, feeding them, milking the cows and caring for the chickens, tending to the coop, then there's all the fences to mend and fix, there's horses to care for, brush, and this is all daily work, without thinking about harvesting season stuff.And there's ALWAYS a shit ton of things to move around, and sort, and organize, and THAT's not even counting repairing the fucking machines, and the cars, and then this isnt even counting planting season, and -FUCK.

I worked at a farm for a few years.
I was always busy, waking up before 4 AM.

I now have an IT job.
I make SOOOO much more money and do so little. It's like I'm some fat king of old.

Did you know that if you trade services directly for food, under IRS barter taxing, you are still accountable for determining the value of exchange and paying tax on it?
irs.gov/publications/p525/ar02.html#en_US_2015_publink1000229343

says the gypsy

I don't.

only for people w disabilities

so the implication here is that you are locked into a low paying job and that advancement is impossible.

this is obviously not the case as only about %10 of millionaires inherit there wealth, while the rest earn it within their lifetimes.

blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2007/05/29/the-new-rich-self-made-or-family-made/


but i suppose this post is pointless because you are a bottom feeding piece of shit who thinks you should be able to smoke weed all day and flip a couple burgers and live like a rap star.

fuck yourself with a rusty knife, nigger.

>And fuck this shit anyway, because it should read 'I spent the entirety of MUH EARNINGS on food, shelter, weed, booze, lottery tickets, useless trash, swag, and pussy,

spoken like a naive rich kid who doesn't know anything

>Before capitalism, that's all people did, spent their whole lives working to provide food & shelter for themselves and their immediate family.
Yea, its not like they chased pussy and shiny things or broke their backs to built giant pantheons to celebrate nature.

This, you have no idea how envious people from the last would get if you told them about Antibiotics, everybody Beeing able to buy more food than he can eat, food delivery Services and things like fucking spices Beeing affordable.

Do you have any idea how much spices used to cost and how drab food is without them

All Marxists believe society goes through a capitalist phase

At one point capitalism was good, in destroying feudalism

Now it has run its course, and the social revolution beckons